Claudio and Renata Lugli just arrived home to Italy from a Power mission to Israel. Their purpose was to assist in the set up of the first Independent Advanced Scientology Organization in the Middle East.
As a result, Dani and Tami Lemberger’s Dror (Freedom) center is now delivering OT Levels auditing and training through OT VII.
The Dror Center delivers most of the Bridge in Hebrew, Arabic, Russian, and English. It is an international marvel.
Dror has established the Israeli Independents blog, see it here in Hebrew.
UPDATE from Dani:
Hello Marty and Friends, this is Dani. thank you for posting the news and your responses. Just a few comments:
1. We are getting ready to deliver Solo NOTs, 6 guys will soon start on it.
2. We are not “the first Independent AO in the Middle East”. We are, “the first AO in the Middle East.”
3. This achievement was made possible thanks to the dedication and determination of those preserving the tech and making the tech available to all – Marty, Claudio, Jim Logan and many more. Our gratitude to you.
4. We wouldn’t make it without our staff, dedicated to Ron and courageous to do the right thing in the face of vicious attacks by those with vested interests whose monopoly we are bringing down.
5. Tami and I got on the Bridge at COSMOD San Francisco in 1980. In 1982 Martin Samuels, the founder of COSMOD, whom I never met, was declared SP and the huge COSMOD network disbanded. We vowed in 1980 to dedicate our lives to the Clearing of the Planet. We have always maintained our total loyalty to Ron. Ron has placed spiritual freedom and immortality within the grasp of all Men. Having realized that, shortly after starting in 1980, we decided to dedicate ourselves to his vision.
6. Over the past few years, it became starkly clear these goals cannot be achieved within the Cof S. This organization has been hijacked to promote other ends. We had to leave, are happy to be out and are doing great.
Thank you for your support. Love, Dani
While in Haifa Claudio did a video taped briefing to the staff and public of Dror on the history of the hijacking of Scientology, and the way to take it back. I think it is well worth watching as you manage time to (98 minutes total). It is in three You Tube segments. You can link to the second two segments at You Tube once you watch the first one here:
Moving On Up a Little Higher 
Another step towards the tipping point!
Fantastic! My biggest concern over the past few years has been that DM might destroy Scientology forever through his perversions. I know now that he can’t do that and nothing is more powerful than creating new independent Scientology Orgs where lots of people can get the full bridge.
This is such incredible news. A group of competent, theta, caring individuals ensuring that the delivery of honest tech will be perpetuated.
Dave’s implant station is a bust. His plans to monopolize the tech and morph it into a 1984 style world have come a cropper. He is naked to but a miniscule percentage of the poplulation. I well remember him from earlier times and see clearly how small, weak and powerless he’s become. While he goes down, we go up.
We are free to live, breath and audit and train in harmony and with good heart.
May all beings who wish to recover thier innate awareness do so.
WOW o WOW! This is brillant news.
What wonderful news!
Don’t forget to fax in your stats to Int so they can see that Scientology is indeed expanding again.
Well done!
Claudio Lugli at Dror Center Part 1 of 3
Claudio Lugli at Dror Center Part 2 of 3
Claudio Lugli at Dror Center Part 3 of 3
Part 1 of 3: 30 minutes.
Part 2 of 3: 35 minutes.
Part 3 of 3: 33 minutes.
Just great!
Words cannot express my joy and happiness for all Mankind !
Well Done to All !
Now you can do the OT levels standardly in Texas, Canada, Israel, Italy, and where else?
Well done to all you of you.
Fascinating Claudio! Quite a story – you are truly persistent – as you say “A Thetan never gives up” That’s you for sure.
Interesting that when you met with Misacavige in about 2006 to measure him up for a suit, and asked him about OT 9 and10 you didn’t get to measure him…… I bet he could not wait to escape your valid and pointed question. Speaks volumes.
Hello Marty and Friends, this is Dani. thank you for posting the news and your responses. Just a few comments:
1. We are getting ready to deliver Solo NOTs, 6 guys will soon start on it.
2. We are not “the first Independent AO in the Middle East”. We are, “the first AO in the Middle East.”
3. This achievement was made possible thanks to the dedication and determination of those preserving the tech and making the tech available to all – Marty, Claudio, Jim Logan and many more. Our gratitude to you.
4. We wouldn’t make it without our staff, dedicated to Ron and courageous to do the right thing in the face of vicious attacks by those with vested interests whose monopoly we are bringing down.
5. Tami and I got on the Bridge at COSMOD San Francisco in 1980. In 1982 Martin Samuels, the founder of COSMOD, whom I never met, was declared SP and the huge COSMOD network disbanded. We vowed in 1980 to dedicate our lives to the Clearing of the Planet. We have always maintained our total loyalty to Ron. Ron has placed spiritual freedom and immortality within the grasp of all Men. Having realized that, shortly after starting in 1980, we decided to dedicate ourselves to his vision.
6. Over the past few years, it became starkly clear these goals cannot be achieved within the Cof S. This organization has been hijacked to promote other ends. We had to leave, are happy to be out and are doing great.
Thank you for your support. Love, Dani
Thanks Dani, I made your comment here part of the post by cutting and pasting it in.
This post was for people who want to watch it, but don’t have or don’t want to spend straight 98 minutes.
Perfect. Thanks
i am so keyed out!!! This is fantastic!!!! Todah Rabah (Grazie, Thank you) to Claudio and Renata for making this trip to help form an AO in Israel!!! To the staff of the Dror mission, the Luglis and all Independents – You see, Ron was able to go. He knew there would be enough free beings to carry on. We have grown up.
Superb indeed!
98 minutes ran by like 10.
Claudio, you are a great speaker.
I loughed on many occasions.
You’re better than Superman. 😉
And, BTW, Miscavige loves to invalidate people by promoting false standards.
(Just look at all the bullshit he created -> false standard)
Now, I know why Jim Logan is featured in anti Marty hate site(s).
Thumbs up for The Lembergers, The Luglis, Jim Logan and others!
http://tinyurl.com/Thumbs-Up-Smiley
Thumbs down for DM & Co$’s borgs.
http://tinyurl.com/Thumb-Down-dm-borgs
Coeur d’Alene, Idaho
Special thanks to those who keep doing it despite all opposition. The Mediterranean is a safe place for Scientology. Cudos to Dani and his dedicated people in Israel. And to all those who contributed.
There is something incredible in the Independent Freezone field: its Resources, hahaha.
Like aces in the sleeve, they keep popping up in different places of the planet doing something incredible.
So much for the tipping point, this will push the DeMon over the edge.
Thanks for the GREAT NEWS! This is VERY THETA! It sends HOPE. PROMISE. XXOO to all that contribute to this motion!
Awesome news. Thanks Dani and Tami and staff for creating a safe place for those who desire the true technology.
Our little love slowly grows and grows
Not one that comes and goes
That’s all I want from you
A sunny day with hopes up to the sky
Another day that comes and dies
That’s all I want from you
Don’t let me down, oh show me that you care
Remember when you give, you always get your share
Don’t let me down, I have no time to wait
Tomorrow might not come, when dreamers dream too late
Our little love slowly grows and grows
Not one that comes and goes
That’s all I want from you
A sunny day with hopes up to the sky
Another day that comes and dies
That’s all I want from you
Don’t let me down, oh show me that you care
Remember when you give, you always get your share
Don’t let me down, I have no time to wait
Tomorrow might not come, when dreamers dream too late
Our little love slowly grows and grows
Not one that comes and goes
That’s all I want from you
Claudio’s video here is bar none, THE best rundown of every salient point that needed to be covered. As close to absolute as one could find.
Real OTs, associated. That’s what we have.
And no matter what sort of 3P infiltrations, goofus projects to set one against another, to cast doubts, to cause distraction from the purpose, to encourage squirrelling in the field, to make his attempts to put an end to the true freedom that Scientology presents to those that can reach for it, that feckless weenie David Miscavige puts forth, there are those with a good forward look, freed up from the traps, and tenacious to the live goals set.
Soon there will be more, from Dror 🙂
Dani, Tami, Claudio and Renata,
CONGRATULATIONS!
While Mr. Gotta Have Before I Can Do has scammed money to buy three “Advanced Orgs” (Africa, Canada and Mexico) and promoted them with enormous fanfare at his glitzy circus events and years on they sit empty — you went ahead and did what normal Scientologists would do: Trained staff, got materials, set up space to deliver in and opened the doors.
That is demonstrated competence. What we expect of OT’s. And you didnt need to beg for a sheckel to buy some real estate in order to get started…
I am proud to call you friends.
BTW — I opened the LAST AO (Sydney) more than 25 years ago when I was WDC Sea Org Orgs. I did exactly those steps: selected staff, trained them, got materials, arranged space (in existing premises), promoted and started delivering.
BTW, while people are moving up the Bridge in Israel and elsewhere, Diamond Dave is doubling down on his patented “Blanket C/S Circular Bridge” program.
I heard today that someone who recently completed their Purif and Objectives has just been advised that they need to “redo” them because “the niacin levels have been raised as a requirement for completion.” This is not someone that did the Purif 20 years ago in a Mission in Urkutsk — this is a RECENT “completion” in an “Ideal Org” under the “Golden Age” of Tech Degrades.
So, you can tell your friends who are still sucking the Kool Aid — the latest and greatest is PURIF FOR EVERYONE! Get your towels and swimming trunks ready (and don’t forget your checkbook). It fits perfectly with all other announced strategies of Chairman Mao. Every org has a sauna. It’s easy to train a “Purif C/S” and it requires NO auditors but counts on the WDAH and Complations stats! Perfect! Rumor has it Miscavige is working on a Purif Extension course so people don’t even have to come into the org at all — they can just send in their hours and he can announce them at events….
So well done to all those that contributed.
we need one in ASIA!!!!!!
OMG…this Blanket C/Sing makes me sick!
MRinder…I can’t if you are kidding or serious about the extension course…which is basically a statement that I would not doubt this could actually happen within the current Church of altered tech.
On the posted article of the new Israeli AO…wonderful news!
This is how it is supposed to be. Thanks to everyone who contributed.
Well stated Dani
Bela — on the Purif Extension course, its a joke. For now.
Dani,Tami,Claudio,Renata, you make us Indies all extremely
proud, with your dedication and fearlessness! Bravo! This is a
major win in creating the first AO (of ANY kind!) in the Middle
East.May every aspect of your true dedication to the delivery
of real Scn, grow from strength to strength.
BTW, what a fitting reference to use on the insane miscavige;
“The man WHO hijacked Ron’s gift to mankind – Scientology,
the one and only—-David Miscavige—-take a bow ( OUT!)
Go and hang your self from the rafters of any “ideal morgue”
of your creation, scumbag! This is about the only “course” open to you, that will ” free mankind “(from your INSANITY!)
That is a nice way of looking at it.
That was supposed to say, “I can’t tell if you are kidding or serious…”
Obviously you figured that out. 🙂
But, I am now afraid you have given David Miscavige a new idea for the next “most important release ever and you can’t miss the event that announces this exciting news!!”
WOW!
The entire Bridge is now organized and producing. Looks like in a relatively short time, the the entire Bridge will be available in numerous places in every country.
The Association of Independent Scientologists is a functioning entitiy, local and international.
Poor DM. Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha goona do when we all come for you?
!כל הכבוד
Amazing Claudio, Renata and Dani !! And all others who helped.
Dm must be holding onto his copper rods real tight about now…
New Israeli AO. This is good stuff, right here. Love it!!!
Mike,
In the church of Miscavige, soon liver failure from niacin overdose will be the EP of the Purif.
I’m speechless! This is absolutely fantastic! I will for sure visit. I wish you the best. What a win!
Jimmy,
That you are an integral part in this accomplishment is something that many, many people will learn soon. What you have done to salvage and recover the true and complete on-source bridge from the degradations and depredations of the diminutive douchebag is nothing short of heroic.
I hope to see a piece here on Marty’s blog (hint, hint) on your extraordinary work in the near future.
We need one smack in the center of Europe..
Would anyone please transcribe this? It’s an eBook that should be viral. We can’t lose this. A huge Thank you Marty. And bigger still to you who edited out the translation. I could only imagine, what would LRH do?
Yet another Truth Rundown!
I have been very happy to listen to Claudio´s lecture. A lot of missing pieces have come together and the full picture of what is and has been going on is becoming clearer and clearer. It is quite impossible to remain a member of Miscavige´s corporation after having listened to this. What a perfect scam Miscavige set up. What a perfect target he selected to pull off his scam. Scientologists – spiritual, goodhearted, wellmeaning people, who over time were manipulated into becoming more and more naive and gullible, myself included. We believed in the church. We were unsuspecting. How could I become so stupid?
What a betrayal!
That’s so great! The first Advanced Org in the Middle East, delivering up to OT V. Scientology wont disappear from this planet with the implosion of the Miscavology Church. It was just the first phase, utterly corrupted and now quickly rott
ing. Once, the cult burden has been thrown off, true Scientology will integrate its wisdom into the knowledge stream of humanity and contribute to its spiritual awakening.
Agreed.
I believe the answer to WHY so many of us became so stupid and gullible and naive within Miscavige´s corporation lies in this quote: “The bigger the lie, the more people will believe in it!” – I think Adolph Hitler said that.
LRH as well was aware of this: “The only way you can control people is to lie to them. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them.” LRH “Off the Time Track” lecture of June 1952
History shows, however, that lies will only be tolerated for so long. Everybody is born with a sixth sense, intuition, if you will, or in scientologese: “A thetan always knows!” At one point, after having felt for a long time, that something wasn´t quite right, you eventually start waking up. This is usually triggered by some kind of huge, incomprehensible injustice, where you experience that no tech or even reverse tech is used to solve or remedy the situation. THAT is the wakeup call – and the point of no return!
David Miscavige is doing a wonderful job of dismantling the church by ARC breaking people on a daily basis and creating all manner of bad PR all over the world. And as Napoleon Bonaparte said: “Never disturb an enemy, while he´s busy making mistakes!”
Little Davey should be happy that OTs are getting ‘done’ at the Indie mission, if he was bright he’s do a deal and ‘out source’ the tech delivery to the Indies entirely. He could count the WDAHs and announce them at events and then he’d be free to really concentrate on the real estate and Ponzi business. It’s his only chance at getting any expansion.
I’m just 25 minutes into the first video. So far, this presentation by Claudio is looking to be the best summary of recent Scientology history (since the 70s) that I’ve ever seen. Beautiful job, Claudio.
The Dror Center is what Ron is expecting Scientologists to do.
The staff at Dror are gentle, high ton e and you see that the only goal they have is help others to reach higher spiritual heights.
This was the impact we felt when we arrived in Haifa.
Dani & Tami Lemberger are two great beings, and with no restraint whatsoever they decided to break free from the David Miscavige dictatorship and to follow what L. Ron Hubbard left to us as his legacy.
Their decision has been an historical one for the Independent Movement and that’s the reason why we decided to help that group 100% so that they could become a shiny beacon for the Middle East and the whole of the Mediterranean – and also that it could serve as a safe place where people that left the Miscavige regime could progress on the Bridge to Total Freedom.
We spent with them two very intense weeks, and we were able to appreciate all the friendliness and dedication to the values of freedom those people have.
We visited Acri, Tel Aviv, Jaffa, Ber Sheva, Nazareth and Jerusalem
We went near the broders of the West Bank, where the electrified barbed wire brings you immediately to present time and to scenery that are so far away from our day to day reality, but the silence of those scenery is deafening.
We walked in the narrow alleyway of the arab market and the israeli ones too – full of colors, full of people that try to live together in a very delicate and difficult situation.
We could not avoid tears on our eyes when we visited the Yad Vashem the museum of the Shoa.
What we were watching was inevitably bringing us memory of what we had experienced and what we are now experiencing because of David Miscavige dictatorship.
Even if is not possible and maybe unfair to compare the shame of enormous proportion that was the Holocaust to our situation, I think that the atrocities that are and were perpetrated to the detriment of people of good wil by the Miscavige regime follow the same identical dramatization and implant content that in that time lead that infamous regime.
On a l’esser serious note, we even found time to be invide at a beduin’s wedding and were able to enjoy their the and coffee, and sit under their tent and pet their camels.
Simple, hospitable upright people.
An unforgettable experience, strong and sincere sounds, scents and colors.
So without going on and on detailing our beautiful experience in Israel we want to thank Marty, Tami & Dani and the whole staff there, and you here acknowledging us and them and end of with a quote and a video:
“IF IT IS NOT FUN….. IS NOT SCIENTOLOGY!”
Grazie Jim !!!!!!
Yes:
“there are those with a good forward look, freed up from the traps, and tenacious to the live goals set.”
Glad to part of this group with you and the rest!
Grazie Mike,
we are proud to call you a friend too!!!!
WOW !!!! These folks are movers and shakers. They are DO-ers. Absolutely no doubt about it. Congratulations to all of you who are making this happen. Maybe I’ll even go to Isreal again and pay y’all a visit.
Did I just mispell Israel? I gotta get more sleep.
and soon in FRANCE!!
Yep, that’s the way I see it too.
Also interesting that he used Superman for his analogy. In the PDC LRH says that Superman is a degraded state of a being.
Yes. It dose not look like dm ever thinks about the consequences of his actions.
By the way, when you build up the Niacin too fast, which will happen if you put on the purif people who should not be there, the first to go is the lymphatic system.
Excellent news about having to redo. Shows DM gets worse by the hour. He is going to bring this corporation down but surely. Maybe it will happen faster than I thought. Great article in the Post today on Scientology and M. Rathbun is quoted extensively. Talks about how hollywood is no longer afraid of scientology – with the Master, etc. To be associated with T. Cruise and Scientology is a joke. I am not convinced that this is altogether true, as ABC did cut the 20/20 show and the NIghtline last week. But things are moving rapidly. With everything that is happening newswise this week, Middle East, elections, it is telling that there is a full three pages on Scientology and it is an insert in the Post. This subject is alive. So that is good.
Or your subconscious maybe wanted to say it Is Real what these people are doing.
You know you are desperate when you decide a good way to make more money from those who have already completed this round is to say the Niacin amounts were faulty – I’ve already used the formatting issue, Niacin amounts is where its at.
Claudio,
Just a personal note; I was laughing, smiling, saying “YES!!!!!” at so many points in watching you, that I almost couldn’t write anything, you’d said it so well.
I look forward to the next BILLION!!!! years (wink), hanging out with you and playing this whole game to win, win, win. It is just so nice to have you there, here, anywhere you extend points to view. (And you I and Tiz have GOT to play music, in the kitchen or anywhere, with a realllllly good bass player.)
Love,
Jim
Absolutely fantastic news! And Claudio, I have to say your briefing was riveting. You’re quite a dynamic speaker to put it mildly!
After I watched this a promo starting placeing about Saint Hill. Might want to repost after getting ride of the virus.
I meant playing
Yeah, but lymphatic system failure is just “Case Phenomena” on the way to the EP of Total Liver Failure!
Now who wouldn’t want that?
So good to hear LRH!!
Fabulous!!!
Ya think Lil Davie might choke on this hunk of MEST? Better cut it up so he can get it down… ARC Bill Indie 335/500
Absolutely second that. This was 98 minutes very well spent. The time track leading up to the release of GAT and GAK with the resulting congnitions of the “who” and the descriptions of meeting the Toxic Tosser were brilliantly orated. Thanks for all you have done – and Thanks especially to Dani and Tami for putting the first real AO in the middle east. Quite possibly the first real AO anywhere since LRH set up AOSH UK and the original Flag.
🙂
Well said, Paul!
Way to go guy!!! It is interesting that I am hearing about more and more groups and now even Orgs being created to keep delivering the tech – the real tech!!! Indeed so happy to hear this…
Their stupidity never ends!!! And who ever stays and turns a blind eye to all of this deserves to be the victim of the “Blanket C/S Circular Bridge”!
Good job getting out of the Church of David Mi$cavige! Thanks for posting your story – it is sweeping across the world and you are very credible, well versed, experienced and give a compelling explanation of what is happening in the Co$! GRAZIE!
I enjoyed the video and shared it with tons of people! You are delivering a very effective blow to the Church of Miss Cabbage!!
Dani and Tami,
Congratulations on opening your AO. This is exactly what we need — more and more of us just getting the show on the road. Very well done!
On another note, do you know anything about Shafee Giveon? He introduced me to Scientology in 1968 when he was a young math professor at Stanford in the US. A few years later he returned to Israel and, I heard, opened that country for Scientology. I have no data about him after that. Do you know him, or anything about his adventures in Israel?
Off topic – Wonderful article in the New York Post this morning about Scientology, with some quotes from Marty:
http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/movies/hey_tom_your_crack_is_showing_0cydYWWp3pxAvrbALa1E6K/0
Watching the videos now. You are a wonderful speaker Claudio!! So cool to hear in one talk the whole history from the first Exodus in the early 80’s to PT.
That is correct. The purif issues do not specify a minimum amount to complete. Just the maximum amount (5,000 mg) to not go over.
I which somebody starts a class XII training program and an Ls HGC. Karen, that is a thought for you.
Claudio, your talk to the Dror group was spellbinding. I watched the whole thing straight through without a break, and was glued to the screen. What I really loved about it, was the way you told the story from your first contact with Scientology forty years ago, right up to present time. You take the viewer on an historical journey that truly paints the real picture of exactly what happened to our beloved church, and indeed, the entire culture of Scientology.
What an amazing talk. I do hope that you give that same talk to other groups in the near future. It’s powerful, and does much to as-is a whole lot of mystery and by-passed charge for others.
Thank you, and congratulations to Dani, Tami, and the good folks of the Dror Advanced Organization!
I am sorry. The second word is wish.
LDW: This is such incredible news. A group of competent, theta, caring individuals ensuring that the delivery of honest tech will be perpetuated.
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That was similar to my first reaction, very significant news. Now I have to go back and watch the videos, but wow.
Hell of thing that is happening.
Thanks Marty & Mosey for becoming the point guard !!!!
Claudio! I just watched all three of the videos. Thank you.
It amazes me to see every day that most people in the Church do not even know there “were” real OT levels and the miscavige and his gang of thugs made them vanish.
I’m on Original OT IV (having completed the NOTs case) and I can tell you that these levels are amazing.
Plain and simple…miscavige IS and SP; he hates OTs; he hates LRH and LRH tech.
Deal !!!!!
Yes we do have eternity in front of us.
We must meet … and play!
😉
Grazie, I really enjoyed it.
Just finished watching the complete lecture of Claudio Lugli. Brilliant!!! Thorough, no stone left unturned. The scene fully confronted and lots of good data about the Bridge. You are right Claudio, The Phoenix is Rising. Due to people of great integrity and courage like you and Renata the staff of the Dror Mission.
As a side note – after watching this video, you will want to fly to Italy and hang out with this guy! This is an OT – uptone, insouciant, Cause!
Bravo!!
Well done for posting. This can’t be played enough!!
Well said.
I wonder if a DVD of this LRH lecture excerpt, other similar excerpts, and “audio book” readings of certain written references such as parts of Essay on Management, C/S Series 73RB, the original Introspection Rundown list, etc., might be an effective tool to give to kool-aiders, including staff. Since this compilation would be all LRH, and not on the internet, it might get listened to. Even a printed transcript version might work. But hearing LRH’s own voice makes what he’s saying a lot more real. The Friends of LRH website is terrific, but doesn’t do any good for people who won’t go to it. A DVD starting with LRH’s own voice might be a foot in the door with them. And, how could DM get away with ordering people to not listen to or read LRH? Has anyone collected enough lecture and reference excerpts to create such a DVD?
Love the video Claudio. Thank you !!! And once again Well Done!!
Am Yisrael Chai! Viva l’Italia!
May the Sun Never Set On Scientology!
“IF IT IS NOT FUN….. IS NOT SCIENTOLOGY!” Exactly.
I could tell – you were so animated. Especially when you so vividly described the activities of the execs following Miscavige around on the ship! I loved it!
And speaking of the Life Enhancement Center, Kay Rowe posted a glowing success story about her recent visit on her blog yesterday: http://kaymilarowe.wordpress.com/2012/09/15/my-long-overdue-success-story/
Les,
you are a total inspiration!!!!
Yes the made them vanish … to maybe make them reappear when enough “old timer” would be dead….😉
The coffee is on the table….🇮🇹
Here is: big screen, no “virus”.
Bonus: Knowledge Report: Karen De La Carriere
Thank you Ronnie!
Is difficult to let go…..
🐫🐫🐫🐫
To get rid of the “virus”, the webmaster needs to change some setting like: do not auto-play after end.
Too bad for dave’s postulate that we will all be dead. We’ve got another good 40 years left in us.
Do you happen to know the whereabouts and condition of an old friend of ours, Pierre Paderni?
Les
This is like the Titanic(miscavige) sinking and a hurricane suddenly arises.
May all independent scientologists be well and happy!
George M. White
Scott Campbell wrote:
“Jimmy,
That you are an integral part in this accomplishment is something that many, many people will learn soon…. ”
I am so happy to hear about this. It was always real to me that Jimbo knows the job. I am looking forward to hearing more on this.
Beautiful lecture Claudio! Something you said striked me strongly: Miscavige doesn’t have the upper OT level (I don’t mean the original OT levels which he discarded for unknown reasons), no I mean the actual OT levels which are supposed to be above new OTVIII.
This is probably why when you are on the top of the bridge you go back down and redo it, to keep you busy and paying, while there is no really any upper bridge to deliver.
Anyway how many of the people who did new OTVIII in 88/89, are now “past life OT’s”, or simply blown… They never got their next level… it’s like the hebrew who walked on the desert for 40 years before they could see the promised land!
So, the so called “upper OT levels” : order of magnitude etc… If DM doesn’t have it, so where are they? Or they have never existed. And what issue was promoting the “real OT levels starting with new OTVIII”? It was “From Clear to eternity”… False/true (issue!)? And… I wonder if there is only one new OTVIII who actually handled the amnesia on the whole track?
Maybe we didn’t realize the full extent of the lie…
Some good news. Rons Org Europe has trained 19 senior C/Ses to deliver L-11, I was told in an email this morning.
Claudio,
Thank you for explaining EVERYTHING in about 90 minutes. Wow!
Just finished Jeff Hawkins book and I seriously need a drink – then I watched his interview with the TAmpa times and his speaking of overboarding and how it originated and I still need a drink. Jessssssssssssus.
I am surprised that DM has not yet killed someone yet; maybe that is next. It is mind boggling how this is going on.
Well done and congratulations to all who made the Dror AO possible!
Just don’t make the same mistake Miscavige made. Make sure your staff goes up the OT levels and gets real results. Okay?
🙂
Bravo! Dror Center Rocks. This is the first video my wife and I watched that had anything to do with Scientology, ever.
You know… it’s working out to be some weird sort of reverse truth when Miscavige complained about the “blind leading the blind”. That is exactly what the problem is in the Church today. To hell with tech & policy, don’t need it, Davey’s leading the way, hoo rah…
oh my… I sense the term ‘canabalistic’ is going to be a very apt term to descibe the command intention’s downward spiral destination. What an truly ugly organisation the CoS has become under Miscavige.
I dont know if Ron wrote anything on it, but I think if you do not need to do a purif if can actually be harmful.
The first time I did the purif, I needed it. Everything felt right, even the vitamin levels, cal mag and all that.
The second time in 2008, I DID NOT need the purif and I had major problems with the vitamins towards the end, I think mainly niacin and some B Vitamins. I had reached the max on everything for a week or so and I could feel that my body just didnt want these anymore and was starting to rebel. I was feeling very toxic, as though I was getting into toxic levels of these vitamins (for my body at that time). I told the I/C and the C/S what was going on and they got me to try stuff like breaking the vits up into 10 doses throughout the day, but I still couldnt handle it.
Claudio,
I haven’t watched the whole thing yet but from what I’ve seen thus far I just have one thing to say, Magnifico, Molto Bello Claudio!
That’s where I was at in 2009 when I 1st started looking!
Claudio I have to say you have not changed a bit since the last time I saw you at the base. You and Renata arrived having just come via Jamaica and her hair was in the beautiful corn braids. The videos filled my mind with so many good memories from that time. Massimo Cavadenti, (i know), Leticia Pizzi, Frabrizio Gavarati, Franco Baggio, Maria Pia Gardini, Roberto Tarabini, I could go on and on. You and Renata have risen to carry the torch in Italy. Thank you for the promise you have been and always will be. I am grateful for you both. XXOO
I do not know much about Ron’s Org. Are they standard?
Claudio Lugli | April 21, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
… “Maybe you will be able to wake Pier Paderni up” …
https://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2012/04/20/my-trip-in-and-out-of-the-church-of-scientology/#comment-198720
Claudio, I always had this vision that the Mediterranean can be a safe place for Scientology and that a high order of OTs will be patrolling the area! Maybe the Haifa AO be just the beginning.
What a great idea for preserving the future of the whole subject of Scientology! I second the motion!
My guess is that Karen and Pierre Ethier would be the independents who would have best concept of what it would take to actually do this.
40 … at least…
Pierre Paderni has completed recently OT VIII and is ready for the Circular Bridge © – Probably is already re-doing his Purif and Objectives…. Jokes apart he is still drinking kool aid in massive doses and helping the Miscavige regime in East Europe lecturing here and there.
Grazie Oracle,
you do have a good memory!
I remember very well the Jamaica trip and the corn braid…. I still had hair then….
A magnificent, inspiring lecture.
I sent it to a few selected friends who can’t make up their minds. Old timers like you and me. I hope they see the light.
I don’t have time to watch the videos now but had to take a moment to acknowledgment this fantastic accomplishment! This is HUGE! WOW…Just amazing! Well done to all who contributed to this!
My second thought was of DM having contortions, bulging eyes and foaming at the mouth. You are Roadrunner and he is the Coyote and another giant safe just fell on his head.
There are some answers on the Pierre Ethier’s site:
http://www.upperbridge.org/OT8PLUS.htm
Numbering the “new” OT levels from 4 to 8 made the original ones of the same number automatically “old”.
According to Pierre Ethier, the “new” levels are not replacing the original ones, but are an intermediate step. That should be an “Insertion”, not a “Replacement”.
Thus it seems logical to believe that beyond the new OT8 there are the original OT 4, 5, 6, 7.
Moreover in the old red volumes, according to an HCOB, the actual OT rundowns, beyond clear, are to be found in the book “Creation of Human Abilities”.
Just a few clues I could collect.
Refer to Claudio’s comments about Capt. Bill Robertson (the founder of Ron’s Org) in his video.
Thanks for this Hap…. She was a bright star in my life for so many years. Happy to know she is got a re-charge.
Another LRH warrior is off the ground and running free.
Cece
Ok Ronnie, so that means that we would be the once needing to take care of reviving the Class XII program.
Glad you started looking Cured.
Fantastic news about the Israeli Advanced Organization! Mr. Lugli, you gave a super-interesting, riveting talk too! I had to make myself get to sleep after the second section. Now must watch the third. Thank you all for your efforts and dedication to LRH tech and keeping it alive and working the way it should be.
So Marty how is yopur affinity with the 1982 traiters now ?
Oh I may be harsh but I love your ass.
Book burning? Like this? -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CixOpza11ns
Any other parallels to be drawn?
If anyone of you still has old tapes, re-recorded by the audio unit of Flag or Pubs org Thistle Street, compare those to their current editions. You’ll be surprised.
Anyone wonder, why the intro parts to the briefing course tapes, where LRH welcomed individual students (of back then some ‘fame’) where chopped? Well, it would be worth posting the snippets of those beginnings and check, which hole those students were disappeared into under the current regime.
True, he opened Scn in Israel in early ’70s. Then had big upset w/ CofS which never got handled, he almost got declared. He too was too much of an upstat. Taught Scn in Beer Sheva University as “Modern Philosophy” together w/ being math Professor. Got hundreds interested and scores on the Bridge. He’s retired now, lives in Israel. I can get you his phone number if you’re interested. Dani
Thanks for the info. Perhaps his email address would be better than his phone number, since I’ve had no comm with him for over 40 years. My email is diogenesisc@hotmail.com. Is Shaffee still active in COS or as an Independent, or did he just give up on Scientology altogether?
Claudio, Renata, Dani, Tami and everyone at the Dror Center:
I am in awe at your actions. You are an example to us all. Thank you for everything you are doing. If Scientology lives on, it will be a in great part due to your efforts, dedication and passion.
Thank you,
Luis
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