Going Clear Movie Part 9, Paul Haggis Phony Narrative
Transcript
Mark Rathbun:
Paul Haggis, Wright and Gibney lied about Scientology’s position Homosexuality
They have Alex Gibney saying that “Paul Haggis’ daughters were openly harassed by church members for being gay.” I’ve been through the book three times now – there is no evidence of that and I never even heard any evidence of that from Paul Haggis. They suffered a couple of slights from peers is what the accusation was. But now they are being “openly harassed.” Because, now this is a movie, “and we’re going to make this more dramatic,’ I guess. And Gibney says “Investigating further, Haggis discovered church doctrine which characterized homosexuality as “a disease” that only Hubbard’s teachings can cure.” It is never categorized as a disease. Unlike the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the APA (American Psychiatric Association) who until the mid seventies had homosexuality listed as a mental disorder. It was not a disease. I’ve been through this before. It is a single characteristic to take into consideration in a series of 48 characteristics – in that you must have a majority of those characteristics, in ordered to be considered to at a particular emotional tone. And that is written in 1951. And there is a subsequent body of written statements by L. Ron Hubbard that he didn’t give a rat’s ass about somebody’s sexuality. And it was firm church policy that one wouldn’t be concerned with one’s sexual preference. That now is branded “a disease” according to Alex Gibney. And by the way, again it is “all in present time”, taking a statement from 1950, twenty five years before the APA and mental health in general decided it wasn’t a disease.
Paul Haggis lies about timing of his resignation
At 143:30, Paul Haggis says “I can’t support an organization that supports human rights for everyone, so I wrote a letter resigning.” No, he did not. He wrote a letter resigning a year and half after this dispute he had regarding a particular stance one church of scientology took on an issue. He had aired all his disagreements on that and a year and half later for intervening reasons we have discuss – which had to do with embarrassment about things that were said in the press – he only then wrote a letter.
Paul Haggis acts out a fiction on how he left the church
At 144:00 Haggis said, “his friends in Scientology said ‘we need you to resign quietly’,” and Haggis said, “I don’t do that. I don’t do quiet.” Like he is John Wayne again, right? Mr. Macho. Except, it is exactly what he did. And he went through a lot of different machinations to make it appear that he was doing it quietly. In fact, he included me in it, plotted with Jason Beghe about ways he could use my media contacts to leak to them so that Haggis would appear to have no causative involvement. In other words, he was taking extreme measures over several months to try to snipe from the weeds. He wanted to make it look like he wasn’t involved whatsoever (in loud publication of his resignation), and cause damage through the ‘leaking’ of his letter. So, first of all Paul Haggis never told his scientology friends “I don’t do that, I don’t do quiet.” He gave them the impression that he would do it quietly. So, that is a lie. And then his subsequent behavior, which is documented, that he did it as quietly as he could while creating the maximum possible media impact against the church.

