Freedom From Slavery

A new friend of mine handed me a copy of a remarkable little book on Sunday.  It is called As a Man Thinketh, by James Allen.  The book contain this little, precious pearl on freedom from slavery:

It has been usual for men to think and to say, ‘Many men are slaves because one is an oppressor; let us hate the oppressor.’  Now, however, there is among an increasing few a tendency to reverse this judgment, and to say, ‘One man is an oppressor because many are slaves; let us despise the slaves.’  The truth is that oppressor and slave are cooperators in ignorance, and, while seeming to afflict each other, are in reality afflicting themselves.  A perfect Knowledge perceives the action of law in the weakness of the oppressed and the misapplied power of the oppressor; a perfect Love, seeing the suffering that both states entail, condemns neither; a perfect Compassion embraces both oppressor and oppressed.

He who has conquered weakness, and has put away all selfish thoughts, belongs neither to oppressor nor oppressed.  He is free.

181 responses to “Freedom From Slavery

  1. Interesting indeed, specially the concept of putting away selfish thoughts. Why? Because then you are not introverted and effect of others around you, nor fighting them either; rather find yourself extroverted and creating the moment and thus, free.

  2. Big words, didn’t help the slaves much in history, I want to believe those profound words and in the clips I posted with Hubbard talking about hypnotism he talks about the psychiatrist enslavinfg many intelligences so that he himself becomes a slave to them.

    But nevertheless fine words

  3. Great quote! It reminds me of the thought I’ve had that there exists a “co-dependency” (to use the modern word) for those who haven’t yet broken free of the CoS, whether they’re still members or not.

  4. Wise words, indeed.
    BTW, is it true that Mosey and you are proud new parents today of a baby boy named William James Rathbun?

    If so, congratulations to you all!!

  5. Actually David Miscavige the slavemaster IS following Hubbards words to the letter:

    Hubbard also expressed his ambitions for the future:

    “Material things are yours for the asking. Men are your slaves.”

    “You will make fortunes writing.”

    “You will live to be 200 years old.”

    “You will always look young.”

    “Money will flood in upon you.”[14]

  6. A great book. Easy to read, understand, and see it applicability in ones own life as regards thoughts and how they effect one. Percivals “Thinking and Destiny” is a book which also covers the life cycle of thoughts.

  7. “In your brother is the light, See Him as sinless and there can be no fear in you”
    A Course In Miracles

  8. “The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt.”

    – John Philpot Curran

  9. January 28, 2013
    “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.”

    The quote “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty” is often mistakenly attributed to the Irish lawyer and politician John Philpot Curran and frequently to Thomas Jefferson.

    In fact, Curran’s line was somewhat different. What he actually said, in a speech in Dublin on July 10, 1790, was:

    “The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance.”

    And, according to Jefferson scholars there is “no evidence to confirm that Thomas Jefferson ever said or wrote, ‘Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty’ or any of its variants.”

    Traditionally, the most famous use of “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty” that’s included in books of quotations is from a speech made by the American Abolitionist and liberal activist Wendell Phillips on January 28, 1852.

    Speaking to members of the Massachusetts Anti-Slavery Society

  10. And the plagerist L Ron Hubbard

    “Constant and continual alertness is the price of freedom. Constant willingness to fight back is the price of freedom. There is no other price, actually.”

    —L. Ron Hubbard

  11. Has it ever been said before in history that one is slave to one’s lack of knowledge? Knoweldge is one gives one one’s freedom? I guess not! 🙂 But, anyway, I believe people are enslaved by their own ignorance stemming from their own O/W’s. And although many people in this world have tried to seek out and explore the truth with a Church of Scientology as a guide, using the Church of Scientology as a guiding light to one’s freedom is out-ethics in itself and can lead to O/W’s. Who needs that? 🙂 All you need is the tech and it’s good for the duration! 🙂

  12. Congratulations Marty and Mosey, from many of your friends and fans at Tony Ortega’s Underground Bunker.
    Mosey, you are one hell of an amazing woman!
    And welcome, William James (we see what you did there – fantastic name, and I’m sure your son will live up to it! xo)

  13. Marty and Mosey ~ Congrats!! A new baby boy – now you are truly flourishing a prospering – expanding your dynamics!!

    Our family wishes you lots of love and good health for the baby!! You are going to have so much fun with your new bundle of JOY!! What great news!!

    I think 2014 is going to be a really good year for you both – having a baby and taking down Scientology – exposing the harassment and criminal activities and stopping them from ever doing it again!!

  14. Great book. Watch out if you sign up for the email newsletter, however. That thing is relentless.

    And Marty, one thing that I changed in myself after reading the Stephen Mitchell translation of the Tao that you recommended on your blog some years ago was recognizing and being in the moment with, “When nothing is done, nothing is left undone.”

    As time has gone on, I have gotten better and better at recalling that tenet before acting – and recognizing where an act is not necessary.

    As you and Mosey embark on this new adventure, all I can say is that that one piece of wisdom is worth more than any library full of volumes on the subject of child rearing.

  15. marty,Last night I saw the film12 years a slave, and thought of you, was a fantastic film .
    And just heard you guys have a new baby,that is so exciting to hear.

  16. Strange isn’t it. How the abuser and abused are in perfect balance. “Some of them want to abuse you. Some of them want to be abused.” Thanks Annie! You had that right.

    The concept of “pull it in” that is in Scientology is true. But abusers, being abusers, even use this truth to abuse: “You pulled it in!!!!!”, as a shame and blame dig.

    We, as energetic beings magnetize to ourselves circumstances and people to fit into our blue print of learning.

    The lessons of the abuser and the abused are different.

    For the abuser, the lesson is to stop hurting people. And the realization that there is something inherently wrong in causing pain.

    And the lesson for the abused is to have enough self respect to refuse being abused. In a word the lesson for the abused is: boundaries.
    Well defined boundaries that are self created. Personal respect boundaries.
    “You continue hitting me, abusing me physically or emotionally and you are out of my life!”

    Some of the doctrines of Scientology(L Ron Hubbard) are tailor made to be used by abusers. They give a religious justification for abuse.

    If L Ron Hubbard’s value system had love and sacrifice, honesty and humility as the cornerstones of his philosophy, Miscavige could never have taken over because his behavior would not be church sanctioned. In Scientology power and money are the ideals. They were Ron’s.

    Ron argued against love and humility as rational when you take into acount Tibet in a tape called “the last OT” or something like that. Maybe it was the Whole Track tapes. In this tape he basically defaulted to force as the answer sometimes. And although that may be true when dealing with certain mentalities, his paranoia and persecution complex tool it a bit far.

    To bad he never considered Gandhi as a model of power. Gandhi kicked the crap out of the English with real power.

    The abuser and the abused are ultimately children of God playing certain karmic roles in this cosmic school house.

    Somewhere along the line I stopped putting myself in abusive situations. It a self respect thing. When we are tired of suffering, we work to extricate ourselves from it. We are worthy of happy lives.

  17. martyrathbun09

    Great movie. Planning to post on it soon.

  18. Wow! Congratulations to you both. You will make awesome parents!

  19. I love it so much i want to take this news and cuddle up with it.

    I saw the picture, such a precious baby

  20. “Constant willingness to fight back” can be a mental problem if what you are fighting is result of a persecution complex.

  21. “Strange isn’t it. How the abuser and abused are in perfect balance. “Some of them want to abuse you. Some of them want to be abused.” Thanks Annie! You had that right.”

    I am glad we have dutchology here:

  22. Freedom for self is freedom from self.

  23. great quote. Clean space , unencumbered by hate and judgement.
    At a time when I just lost most of my family , these words are a great comfort on many levels.
    Although I will not lie down and weep into oblivion , I will not succumb either to the easy desire for retaliation just for the sake of it.

  24. Let’s get esoteric: what goes around, comes around.

  25. “In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then in that very moment I also love him. I think it’s impossible to really understand somebody, what they want, what they believe, and not love them the way they love themselves.” From the book Enders Game. Excellent movie by the way.

  26. How wonderful for all three of you! The two of you have created a sweet little life and as William grows he will have your wisdom and love to guide him. So very happy for you all.

  27. All the best to you all, Marty, Mosey, and William James! Great news!

  28. That does capture me. 😀

  29. Marty, Mosey and William James, my heart sings for you..

  30. Roger from Switzerland Thought

    Cogratulations !
    Wonderful !
    🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

  31. Both the oppressor and the oppressed are motivated by F.E.A.R (False Evidence Appearing Real). The “perfect Love” this “precious pearl” referred to, is the antidote. For “…..perfect love casts out fear …..” 1John 4:18, and where there is perfect love there is no condemnation.

  32. Thanks for the posting and congratulation to you both
    on the new arrival

  33. Wonderful passage Marty, thanks. Lincoln once said “As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master ..”

  34. Congratulations Marty & Mosey and Welcome William James.

  35. Welcome William James and congratulations to you both.

  36. Congratulations to happy family!

  37. Yes, it’s not a rumor!! Congratulations Mosey and Marty!! Karen De la Carriere posted this photo and caption:
    Marty in the hospital with his new born.
    William James is Top 19TH Century American Philosopher.
    Congratulations to the new parents…

  38. Coincidentally, I just purchased this book last week. Read it a few days ago. Although first published in 1910, there are many concepts that rang true to me. By the way, my sincere congratulations to all three of you! William is a beautiful child! Very happy news!

  39. hansje brinker

    If you are interested in “whole-track” and slavery you must read the book of Michael Tellinger: “Slave Species of god”.
    This guy shows that we are still slaves of them who controll us by money and explains why this is on a scientific manner.
    This is the stuff that really allows you to get rid of the planet controllers and brings a better civilization. Must read!

  40. In the final account, a person is enslaved by his own thinking. The solution for that, as I see it, is mindfulness.


  41. This is beautifully put. I am going to have to add that book to my list of must reads. I just finished Hardcore Zen by Brad Warner. I think you would dig his writing a lot. He has 6 books total and I am feverishly working to get through them all. Zen is working well for me in helping to unshackle myself from the past and from Scientology. It is a slow, arduous process. Thank you for putting this blog here and helping with that process!

  42. Roger From Switzerrland Thought

    If one understands it and really applies it to his life, then there is real freedom and cause over life.
    Beautiful quote.

  43. Congrats with your son. A happy life.

  44. “To change one’s life:
    1. Start immediately.
    2. Do it flamboyantly.
    3. No exceptions.”
    ― William James

    Well, I guess ya’ll took his advice.
    Congratulations on your beautiful new son.
    What a lovely family you are.

  45. Congratulations Mosey and Marty on your beautiful new baby son!

  46. Just popping by to congratulate you and your wife on your firstborn!

  47. Congratulations Mosey and Marty!
    This is wonderful. Now the move and the court case make even more sense.

  48. My best wishes to you both, Mosey and Marty. You’ve helped change the world in the good and best sense. I mean that without a brown ass-kiss.

    Here’s a song that came to mind, and yes, it speaks to freedom……….

  49. An excellent book, I enjoyed it and took away more questions.

    My mum and I wish William James, Monique and yourself every happiness. You guys are the best parents a person could wish for 🙂

  50. And of course…….. BIG TIME CONGRATS ….. much happiness to you, Mosey and the little guy.

  51. Truly happy and excited for you both!

  52. These affirmations Cat Daddy are yeeeeeooowww!!!!!!

    I have read them before, but every time I read them…. yeeeooww!!

  53. Brilliant news. What a gift! Welcome William James Rathbun and congratulations to the proud parents. What a perfect little bundle.

  54. p.s. Love the James Allen quote,

  55. Wonderful news. Congratulations to you both and welcome to your son, William.

  56. Congratulations to all three of you. Just beautiful!

  57. What happened in hurricane Katrina, where grown men allowed their families to be overwhelmed and drowned or nearly so, because they waited for “the oppressors, the system, big bro” to take care of them, is the perfect example of this…

  58. Well that was quite a message Cat Daddy.

  59. Marty, this post of yours featuring an excerpt from James Allen’s, As A Man Thinketh, is…as so often is the case…yet another positive synchronicity for me. Inspired by my communion with marildi on your post Siddhartha a while back, I was prompted (from within) to begin, after a long abcense, writing and posting blogs on a local ‘community online’ website. The subject matter being the ‘Fort Smith Experience.’ Experience that is ALWAYS preceded by choice. Of course, when one begins to address choice you cannot not address the artificial constructs of belief systems (both conscious and unconscious) that any choice is connected to. Anyway, I’m having lots of fun in writing what has become a blog series (now on part 5) and when I read what James Allen is saying in his book with regard to this series….well, the phrase ‘kindred spirit’ comes to mind.

    Also, and this synchronicity is now more expected than not, today’s lesson in A Course in Miracles (lesson #325) is just another voice from the choir chiming in on this subject of thought being the source of experience. Here it is in part:

    “This is salvation’s keynote: What I see reflects a process in my mind, which starts with my idea of what I want. From there, the mind makes up an image of the thing the mind desires, judges valuable, and therefore seeks to find. These images are then projected outward, looked upon, esteemed as real and guarded as one’s own. From insane wishes comes an insane world. From judgment comes a world condemned. And from forgiving thoughts a gentle world comes forth, with mercy for the holy Son of God, to offer him a kindly home where he can rest a while before he journeys on, and help his brothers walk ahead with him, and find the way to Heaven and to God.”

    By the way, just as an FYI sort of thing….I recently subscribed to a website called Audio Enlightenment ( where many, if not all, of James Allen’s works are available to listen to. There are also many other authors’ works available as well. The first book that I have started listening to, and I am finding it very interesting, is titled: Christ Returns: Speaks His Truth. The book is nine letters and 16 articles that supposedly come from Jesus wherein he tells what really happened to/with him. This book is also available on YT.

    Cheers ~ Monte

  60. Marty and Mosey, I am so happy for you. William James is a beautiful baby born to 2 beautiful people, and (I presume) a native born Texan to boot!

  61. What a mess. Try and clean that one DM. The DM that took my kids way.

  62. Its fine Cat Daddy. I’m, tired of him already.
    Hugs from Cece

  63. Congratulations, Marty and Mosey. Being a parent is like being deeply in love and it never wears out. So happy for you.

  64. I just read Tony’s blog with Jefferson Hawkin’s review of “Responsibility of Leaders” as it relates to ethics.
    Jefferson relates how Bolivar is DM’s fav writing. He even sent bound copies of Bolivar to celebs.
    Herein lies proof of what I said regarding Scientology supporting abusive behavior.
    Only I think I would use the word violent behavior.

    L Ron Hubbard sanctioned violent behavior. That is why Scientology is dangerous. That is why there is so much violence in Scientology.

    Ron is Source of the violence.

  65. But first the escape from abuse. A wise man said, “don’t preach God to a hungry man, give him food.”

    And when a person is safe, then it is time for spiritula practice.

    BTW Vinaire, I had one of the most amazing experiences practicing mindfulness in the desert this last August. It gave me a tool that I always use. Such a powerful practice. Being the witness is such a relief to all the crazy noise of the mind and world.

  66. May your boy grow to be a man who is inspiration to all.


  67. This child will be no mediocre dabbler. You may have a fire cracker on your hands. How could he not be? Look at the parents he chose!

    Souls born to seekers are seekers. It is what we need desperately in this world. Thank you for bringing one back. Thank you both, very much.

  68. If you think you are under atack all the time. It seems the qoute by L Ron Hubbard was an original tought.

  69. Grrr, Him and the church never seem to amaze me. Today’s popst by Tony Ortega makes it clear to me that David Miscavige really really adheres to the writing of Hubbard. If that are Scientology Ethics, it really deserves to fade into history.

  70. In any way, to grow in in freedom and peace.

  71. Congratulations Mosey & Marty!!!! What a win! You both must be so full of joy.

  72. R u from Canada?

  73. In Ron’s own words from The Responsibility of Leaders:

    “He (Bolivar) feared their blunders. So he did not dare unleash his many willing hounds…It is a frightening level of bravery to use men you know can be cruel, vicious and incompetent.”

    Think over this one and then consider the level of violence and inhumanity that has been sanctioned by Ron.

    It is my opinion that Ron perceived in Miscavige a “willing hound.”

    And then he praises the bravery of viciousness.

    Take that one into some critical analysis. Just stay on that one for a little while.

    Ever conceive of the fact that you’ve been considered a “willing hound” fighting the shadows of an one man’s unbalanced mind.

  74. It seems that most of the people I know, myself included, are or have been slaves mostly to their own decisions. Decisions about data; authorities; advisors; loves; hates; plans; actions; reactions and desires.

    One of my PCs recently sat pondering for several minutes while his TA floated. Eventually he looked up and me and declared “I decide to react in an aberrated way or not. It really is absolutely my cause whichever I decide and I truly am the one who decides.”

    We gently ended the session.

  75. Can you tell me in your comment posted about violence and why you think
    Hubbard being the reason violence was in Scientology is justified.
    You can correct me if I have misunderstood your comment

  76. one of those who see

    Dear Marty and Mosey, Wonderful news that has brightened the last few days for everyone! Wishing all the happiness in the world to your wonderful family.

  77. Mindfulness will tell the person to get food first if he is starving.

  78. Posted without comment or usual my jibbed-jabber.

  79. Marty and Mosey, what a wonderful, happy surprise! I just found out. I am so glad for you. Welcome, William James Rathbun!

  80. Congratulations to Marty, Mosey and William. Many beautiful adventures are in store for you all.

  81. Yes Hadley, I’d be happy to share my thoughts and the process at arriving at my conclusion.

    Over at Tony Ortega’s blog today, Jefferson Hawkins is commenting the ethics tech of keeping power and protecting power. The Power formula and it’s locked in relation with Ron’s essay “The Responsibility of Leaders.” Or Simon Bolivar. Jefferson knowing DM relates that it is DM’s favorite essay by Ron. DM even had bound copies handed out to celebs.

    Lets take one line of Ron’s essay, commentary on Bolivar and how Ron considered Bolivar failed because he did not use people for certain things:

    “He (Bolivar) feared their blunders. So he did not dare unleash his many willing hounds…It is a frightening level of bravery to use men you know can be cruel, vicious and incompetent.” end quote

    Ron wrote Bolivar for one reason. To teach his disciples how to protect him/Ron. In this small idea above, Ron is saying to unleash hounds. What do you do to release hounds. You hunt something down and kill it or put it behind bars.

    In the above statement by Ron, he is praising the bravery of viscousness to accomplish the goal of keeping power. Who’s power? His power.

    Think about Paulette Cooper and Ron Orchestrating Operation Freakout.

    DM’s favorite essay by Ron………. and how is DM?- completely viscous. Marty and Mike were both their willing hounds as well as any person from the GO to ASA who set out to harm human beings to protect Hubbard from the law and from his own shadows.

    Children in chain lockers, over boarding and in some cases a broken arm, a man rolling a peanut around on the wooden deck of the Apollo with every one looking on and Ron watching. The man’s nose was bleeding.

    Ordering DM to spit in someone’s face. Ordering DM to have someone beat up, held and punch by DM.

    Teachers teach and students learn. And the proof of a lesson well learned is mastering what the teacher knows.

    The Old Man saw a willing hound in DM. He chose him because he saw someone who could be viscous and incompetent, just like Ron’s description in that sentence above.

    “It is a frightening level of bravery to use men you know can be cruel, vicious and incompetent.”

    Sometimes I feel sorry for Mary Sue. In Bolivar he instructs her how to keep him safe. She was loyal to the end, and he used her up and through her away to the Sea Org thugs.

    Look where her loyalty got her.

    Hadley, all this info has been gotten by me on the internet and in books. I have read almost all the books out there. The books that the Sea Org thugs tried to stamp out.

    They are there now for the reading. The fangs of the beast are being removed. And the willing hounds are on our side now. Thank God!! LOLOLOL

  82. Hi Monte! It makes me happy to have had “a part” in your re-inspiration to write! 🙂 I’m sure you’re making a great contribution to your community.

    Thanks for the info about the book *Christ Returns: Speaks His Truth*. I’ve been busy lately but am going to check it out when I can.

  83. It’s a happy day today
    And its rain’in in LA
    I know my english sucks. It’s not my 1st language.
    Hi CD. Thank you for the songs.

  84. Congratulations to the three of you!

  85. The clip to the song you refered too was shot in the Netherlands by the way

  86. Nice Les and yer crew.

  87. I think that is called being hungry. Not much practice involved in that. 🙂

  88. *tips hat* thank you for your poëticness

  89. Hey Marty

    Firstly, huge congratulations on the birth of your son. As a father myself I can tell you your whole world is about to change – for the better.

    There is a big media story in the UK at the moment about three women who have escaped thirty years of “slavery” – some are calling them the Lambeth Slaves if you want to Google it.

    It would appear the women were free to come and go to a limited extent, and could use the phone from time to time, but had been manipulated to remain in domestic slavery. In the end they watched a TV programme which helped them realise they were in fact slaves, and phoned a charity to help them escape, although no physical escape was required, they were just terrified of leaving. The local police were understanding of the situation and helped with the “escape”.

    This has been a big story in the UK all week. People can’t understand how someone could be domestically enslaved for so long, right under the noses of the local residents. The charity and the police were concerned that even if they “rescued” these people, that given their level of “brainwashing” they might ask to go back. However, they have had access to skilled counsellors and with the help of the experienced charity workers they are safe and well and the two people who had held them against their will have been arrested.

    I’ve been shaking my head at all this, given the HUNDREDS in the same situation in the Sea Org, who are deliberately refused access to the real world so they never have the cognition that they are in reality, slaves.

  90. Well Congrats!!! So happy for both of you and that baby is lucky to have 2 amazing parents. Good luck to the two of you. If you need any clothes. diapers or anything please don’t hesitate. I have two of my own and boys are the best. A handful but the best. You are on the biggest adventure of your life now Marty and Mosey. Welcome to parenthood. This is a new lifetime from here forward and now you will know what it truly means to have your life belong to someone else. And you will never be happier.

  91. A busy man you are and have been. Congratulations on rounding out your dynamics. More positive postulates I have not seen. Good luck and lots of love to you all. ARC Bill Dupree

  92. You didn’t really lose them did you?

  93. Hey marildi! I am happy that you are happy. 🙂 You are Me and I am You. And I have no doubts that We are making a great contribution to this illusory community known as Fort Smith. However, I don’t think, that at this time, the rest of Us knows exactly what to make out of this part of Us.

    I have finished listening to all nine letters and 16 articles of *Christ Returns, Speaks His Truth* on Youtube. The letters are lengthy, the articles are short. When you do have time to check the book out, I believe you’ll find what is being communicated to be of both interest and relevance. That mentioned, here’s article #8 (When are you going to WAKE Up?) that goes well with Marty’s post:

  94. Bolivar is the blue print for Scientology justified violence.

    DM has simply clay demoed, word cleared and understood how to keep power: violently

  95. Thx Monty.
    You have been bought.
    Hugs, Cece

  96. Its OK Brian. I figure when he stands up enough to get out the door. He will go and feed the birds, squirrels and deer.
    So just send him 100$ a month.
    In fun

  97. I did not know that.

    I love her. She sang a song “Into the West” for a Lord of the Rings which I love.

  98. Here is the song. It’s beautiful.

  99. I seldom post but check in regularly to be inspired by the community of thoughtful philosophers on this blog. I’ve found books, insight and intelligent commentary.

    I revel at your bravery, Marty, to write things as you see them and bare your deepest contemplations. They have caused me pause to think, and often articulate my own observations.

    Congratulations to you both on the new addition to your family.

  100. Well Sid, there are many more in fact many many many thousands enslaved by alcohol, nicotine and/or caffeine. Some men are even enslaved by sex I hear. Some are enslaved by food or lack there-of.

    I think the whole idea here is to get out of one at a time or what ever works best.

  101. Do you think Churchill loved Hitler ?

  102. Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful . . . the new addition to your family. I am so happy for the both of you.

    Marty, Some time back I started feeling sorrow and compassion for the oppressed and particularly the oppressors, especially THE HEAD OPPRESSOR. This was after, of course, I did what I had to do to free my son from the oppressors! I wondered at the time if I had fallen into some sort of complacency. Your blog postings about letting go, and now your current posting of the reference from that marvelous book, AS A MAN THINKETH, by James Allen, which I had read many years ago, have led me to understand why I have felt freedom and peace of mind from the terrible situations that I was experiencing in the last many years. Thank you so much for this.

    I know that you are experiencing freedom, peace and joy in your life now; I feel it in your postings, and I am so happy for you, Mosey and William James. You have my very best postulates for a wonderful holiday season enjoying the new addition to your family!

  103. What a wonderful “Thanksgiving” this will be for the Rathbun family. My most heartfelt, loving best wishes for you three: Mosey, Marty & son, William.
    ML, Midge

  104. I miss Valkov a bit, how about you ?

  105. King George just had to say sorry in essence, but he CHOSE to be an ARROGANT bastard.

    “Give me liberty, or give me death!” is a quotation attributed to Patrick Henry from a speech he made to the Virginia Convention in 1775, at St. John’s Church in Richmond, Virginia, he is credited with having swung the balance in convincing the Virginia House of Burgesses to pass a resolution delivering the Virginia troops to the Revolutionary War. Among the delegates to the convention were future U.S. Presidents Thomas Jefferson and George Washington.

  107. Amistad – Give us free

    From another great movie Marty

  108. Hello Mosey and Marty and William,
    I heard about William’s arrival and want to congratulate all of you on a very, very well done and say “Welcome!” to William!
    May each of you enjoy this new adventure!
    Love to all,

  109. You read my mind – I miss him too! It’s not often that he’s this quiet for this long, and I’ve been wondering what he’s up to. I even wrote a personal message to him on his Facebook page, which he hasn’t replied to yet. (Val, where are you…?)

    Thanks kindly for this comment, CD. Valkov and I both find you very likable (in spite of ourselves ;)).

  110. Security Check Children

    Bulletin September 21, 1961

    The following is a processing check for use on children.

    Be sure the child can understand the question. Re phrase it so he or she can understand it. The first question is the most potent.

    Children’s Security Check Ages 6 – 12

    What has somebody told you not to tell?
    Have you ever decided you did not like some member of your family?
    Have you ever taken something belonging to somebody else and never given it back?
    Have you ever pretended to be sick (ill)?
    Have you ever made yourself sick (ill), or hurt yourself to make somebody sorry?
    Have you even wanted something every much, but never told anybody about it?
    Have you ever gotten yourself dirty on purpose?
    Have you ever refused to eat just to worry someone?
    Have you ever remembered something about yourself and not told anybody, because you thought they wouldn’t believe you, or be angry at you?
    Have you ever refused to obey an order from someone you should obey?
    Have you ever told another child something that wasn’t true, just to frighten or upset him?
    Have you ever bullied a smaller child?
    Have you ever deliberately got another child, or a grown-up, into trouble?
    Have you ever pestered grown people, who were trying to work?
    Have you ever been mean, or cruel, to an animal, bird or fish?
    Have you ever forgotten to give food or water to a pet entrusted to your care?
    Have you ever broken something belonging to someone else?
    Have you ever deliberately spoiled clothing of yours because you didn’t like it?
    Do you have a secret?
    Have you ever noticed something wrong with your body that you were afraid to tell anybody about?
    Have you ever done anything you were very much ashamed of?
    Is there anything about you your parents could not understand, even if you told them?
    Have you ever failed to finish your schoolwork on time?
    Have you ever flunked an examination at school?
    Have you ever deliberately given a teacher trouble?
    Have you ever tried to make others dislike some teacher?
    Have you ever tried to make another child unpopular?
    Have you ever broken, damaged, or taken, any school property?
    Have you ever lied to a teacher?
    Have you ever been late to school, or late to a class?
    Have you ever stayed away from school, when you could have gone??
    Have you ever cheated by copying someone else’s work, taking notes into an examination, or looking up answers in a book when you weren’t supposed to?
    Have you ever spoiled things for somebody?
    Who have you made guilty?
    Have you ever done something you shouldn’t when you were supposed to be in bed or asleep?
    Have you ever told others bad stories about someone?
    Have you ever tried to make others believe that your parents, or teachers, were cruel to you?
    Have you ever offered as an excuse for something you have done wrong that you are only a child, or that you haven’t grown up yet?
    Have you ever felt that your parents and home were too good for you?
    Have you ever felt that your parents and home weren’t good enough for you?
    Is there anything you should tell your parents, and never have?
    Have you ever done anything to some else’s body that you shouldn’t have?
    Have you ever told anyone that you did something, when you hadn’t really done it?
    Have you ever told anyone that you hadn’t done something which you really had done?
    Have you ever ganged up on another child and made fun of him because he was different from the rest of you?
    Have you ever made fun of another because of the way he looked?
    Have you ever decided never to talk to someone again?
    Have you ever made your parents or teachers work harder than they should?
    Have you ever decided that you were too bright, or too smart for the other kids?
    Have you ever annoyed an adult by something you did or said?
    Have you ever hurt a child?
    Have you ever mae a child cry?
    Have you ever made a child sulk?
    Have you ever kept another child from having something that really belonged to him?
    Have you ever found anything and failed to return it to its owner?
    Have you ever told stories about someone behind their back?
    Have you ever lied to escape blame?
    Have you ever not told the whole truth about something so as to protect someone?
    Have you ever felt ashamed of your parents?
    Have you ever disappointed your parents?
    Have you ever run away when you should have stayed?
    Have you ever felt sure your parents wouldn’t understand something that had happened in school, so you didn’t tell them?
    Have you ever not told teachers something about your family because they wouldn’t understand it?
    Have you ever failed to keep another child’s secret?
    Have you ever felt it was just no use talking to someone?
    Have you ever hurt someone you didn’t mean to?
    Have you ever been sloppy about your clothes or possessions?
    Have you ever cried when you shouldn’t have?
    Have you ever been a coward?
    Have you ever made too much fuss over a little hurt?
    Have you ever tried to make your parents believe you were doing better in school than you were?
    Have you ever told on anyone?
    Have you ever teased younger children?
    Have you ever mae a mess and not helped to clean it up?
    Have you ever broken or damaged something and never told anybody it was you who did it?
    Have you ever let someone else get punished for something you did?
    Have you ever cried till you got your own way?
    Have you ever decided “Someday, when I’m grown up, I’ll get even”? If so, with whom?
    Have you ever picked on someone smaller than yourself?
    Have you ever upset anyone by throwing a temper tantrum?
    Have you ever hurt anyone by telling them you didn’t love them any more?
    Have you ever made out that you were more badly damaged than you were in order to make someone stop picking on you?
    Have you ever pretended to like someone that you didn’t like in order to satisfy your parents?
    The Only Valid Security Check
    Policy Letter May 22, 1961 (Amends all existing data on Security Checks)

    Since a Security Check failure can compromise or injure a person’s position or economics, and because we are not moralists, it is better to be more positive on the subject of a Security Check failure, leaving no part of it up to judgment.

    The question of what constitutes a Security Check failure has now troubled enough people to make it necessary to lay down the following policies.

    A Security Check to be used for any organizational reason must be made on a Hubbard Communications Office World Wide form.

    There are only three ways a Security Checker may flunk any person.

    The Security Check may be considered flunked if there is no needle response of any kind to any question with meter sensitivity even at extreme high. Rise as a reaction is ignored throughout a Security Check. A rise is not a useful reaction.

    The Security Check may be considered flunked if any compromising or important question still persists in getting a consistent reaction (not a rise) even after the Security Checker has done his best to get the person being checked to clear it by answering truthfully.

    Refusal to be checked.

    Lie reaction failure may no longer be considered a flunk. Important questions always have enough charge on them to cause a reaction even on bad criminals and the reaction will continue consistently or sporadically if the person is still withholding information.

    The question of something reacting because of past life crimes is ruled out it, when a question fails to clear, the Security Checker adds “In this lifetime?” to or in the question and works on that question continuing to use that added phrase. Reactions by reason of past lives tend to drop out and clear if this is done.

    The task of the Security Checker is to carefully question and clear if possible changes of meter needle behaviour caused by the question. Plainly note any level that failed to clear. This fails the person.

    The lie reaction questions were originally used in Scientology only to study the needle pattern of the person being checked so that changes in it could then be judged in their rue light. Some preclears, for instance, get a slight reaction every time any question is asked. Some get a reaction only when there is heavy charge. Both can be Security Checked by studying the common pattern of the needle demonstrated in asking the Lie Reaction questions. The purpose of the Lie Reaction questions is returned to the original intention.

    A totally stuck needle can be freed by processing, or by getting off withholds. If a person is flunked by reason of 1. above, they require auditing before another check is taken, the auditing to be taken at the responsibility of the person being checked.

    All Security Check sheets of persons Security Checked should be forwarded to Saint Hill, complete with all markings and the reason why the question would not at first clear, if important, or the drop marked which would not clear and whether or not the person was passed or failed.

    Nothing in this Policy Letter changes the responsibility of the Director of Training in preventing Scientology from being taught to persons who would use it in violation of the Code of a Scientologists.

    In reprinting this check sheet leave all directions as part of every sheet.

    … The following statement should be read or quoted to the person being Security Checked:

    “We are about to begin a Security Check. We are not moralists. We are able to change people. We are not here to condemn them. while we cannot guarantee you that matters revealed in this check will be held forever secret, we can promise you faithfully that no part of nor any answer you make here will be given to the police or state. No Scientologist will ever bear witness against you in Court by reason of answers to this Security Check. This Security Check is exclusively for Scientology purposes. The only ways you can fail this Security Check is to refuse to take the test, to fail to answer its questions truthfully or if you are here knowingly to injure Scientology. The only penalty attached to failure of this check is processing or our refusal to employ you or issue you a certificate, and this will only happen if we find that you trying knowingly to injure Scientology. You can pass this test by (1) agreeing to take it, (2) answering each question truthfully and (3) by not being a member of a subversive group seeking to injure Scientology.

    The first questions are null questions to determine your reaction pattern.

    Are you sitting on a chair?
    Are you on the moon?
    Are all cats black?
    Am I an ostrich?
    Is this Earth?
    Have you ever drunk water?
    Are you holding up a tree?
    Am I an elephant?
    Are you a table?
    Is this a Security Check?

    Have you ever lived or worked under an assumed name?
    Have you given me your right name?
    Are you here for a different purpose than you say?
    Have you ever stolen anything?
    Have you ever done any shoplifting?
    Have you ever forged a signature, cheque, or document?
    Have you ever blackmailed anybody?
    Have you ever been blackmailed?
    Have you ever cheated?
    Have you ever smuggled anything?
    Have you ever entered a country illegally?
    Have you ever been in prison?
    Have you ever tried to act normal?
    Have you ever indulged in drunkenness?
    Have you ever done any reckless driving?
    Have you ever hit and run with a car?
    Have you ever burglared any place?
    Are you guilty of anything?
    Have you ever embezzled money?
    Do you have a secret you are afraid I’ll find out?
    Have you ever assaulted anyone?
    Have you ever practised cannibalism?
    Have you ever been in jail?
    Have you ever told lies in Court?
    Have you ever been Court Martialed?
    Have you ever deserted from a military service?
    Have you ever illegally prevented conscription?
    Have you ever been a mutineer?
    Have you ever had anything to do with pornography?
    Have you ever committed arson?
    Have you ever been a drug addict?
    Have you ever made anyone into a drug addict?
    Have you ever peddled dope?
    Have you ever PDH’d anyone?
    Have you had any dealings with stolen goods?
    Have you ever divulged government secrets for pay or political reasons?
    Do you have a police record?
    Have you ever raped anyone or been raped?
    Have you ever been involved in an abortion?
    Have you ever committed adultery?
    Have you ever committed bigamy?
    Have you ever practised homosexuality?
    Have you ever practised or assisted intercourse between women?
    Have you ever had intercourse with a member of your family?
    Have you ever been sexually unfaithful?
    Have you ever practiced sex with animals?
    Have you ever publicly exhibited yourself sexually?
    Have you ever hidden to watch sexual practices?
    Have you ever practised sodomy?
    Have you ever consistently made a practice of sex with a member of your own sex?
    Have you ever slept with a member of a race of another color?
    Have you ever committed culpable homicide?
    Have you ever committed a justifiable crime?
    Have you ever bombed anything?
    Have you ever murdered anyone?
    Have you ever hidden a body?
    Have you ever attempted suicide?
    Have you ever kidnapped anyone?
    Have you ever done any illicit diamond buying?
    Have you ever acted as an informer?
    Have you ever betrayed anyone for money?
    Have you ever betrayed a trust?
    Have you ever betrayed an employer’s trust?
    Have you ever speculated with somebody else’s funds?
    Have you ever knowingly implicated an innocent person?
    Have you ever withheld a communication concerning a crime or misdemeanor committed by another?
    Have you ever threatened anyone with a firearm?
    Have you ever been in illegal possession of firearms?
    Are my questions embarrassing?
    Have you ever been paid for giving evidence?
    Have you ever acted as an informer?
    Have you ever injured somebody’s reputation by knowingly spreading lies?
    Have you ever injured somebody by spading tales you knew were true?
    Have you ever destroyed something belonging to someone else?
    Have you ever plotted to destroy a member of your family?
    Have you ever had a member of your family in an insane asylum?
    Have you ever been pronounced insane?
    Have you ever been a spy for an organization?
    Have you ever looted any place?
    Have you ever stolen from the armed forces?
    Have you ever conspired with anyone?
    Have you ever had anything to do with Communism or been a Communist?
    Have you practised fraud?
    Have you ever been a newspaper reporter?
    Are you hiding anything?
    Have you ever had intercourse after placing another under alcohol or drugs?
    Have you ever used hypnotism to procure sex or money?
    Do you collect sexual objects?
    Have you ever ill-treated children?
    Have you ever practised sex with children?
    Have you ever practised masturbation?
    Have you ever taken money for giving anyone sexual intercourse?
    Have you ever sexually coerced a servant?
    Do you have any bastards?
    Are you withholding anything?
    Have you ever had any connection with a brothel?
    Have you ever coerced anyone into giving you sex?
    Have you had anything to do with a baby farm?
    Have you ever killed or crippled animals for pleasure?
    Have you ever crippled a person?
    Have you ever been a spy for the police?
    Have you ever pretended a disability?
    Are you afraid of the police?
    Have you ever committed a misdemeanor?
    Have you ever committed a felony?
    Have you ever committed a capital offense?
    Have you ever done anything you are afraid the police may find out?
    Have you ever falsified the books in any firm you worked for?
    Have you ever criminally avoided taxes?
    Have you ever counterfeited money?
    Have you ever fraudulently altered or issued certificates or documents?
    Have you ever obtained money under false pretences?
    Have you ever done anything your mother would be ashamed to find out?
    How could you help yourself generally?
    What represents yourself?
    How could you help your family?
    What represents your family?
    How do you feel about sex?
    What represents (the Org (others (a group to you?
    How could you help (the Org? (others? (a group?
    How could you help mankind?
    Have you ever controlled people?
    How do you feel about being controlled?
    What is Communism?
    Do you feel Communism has some good points?
    Have you ever been a member of the Communist Party or any associated group?
    Have you ever been a member of any group with similar ideals as the Communist Party?
    Do you know any Communists personally?
    Have you ever injured Dianetics or Scientology?
    Have you committed any overts on a Scientology Organization?
    Have you wronged anyone in a Scientology Organization?
    Have you ever stolen anything from a Scientology Organization?
    Do you have anything in your possession that you shouldn’t have?
    Do you have any overts on L. Ron Hubbard?
    Have you ever had any unkind thoughts about L. Ron Hubbard?
    Do you have any overts on Mary Sue Hubbard?
    Have you done bad things to leaders in Scientology or Scientology orgs?
    Have you withheld anything from executives in Scientology?
    Have you sought to get any staff member dismissed?
    Have you knowingly planned not to do your job?
    Have you ever had any unkind thoughts about Mary Sue Hubbard?
    Have you ever injured any Scientologist?
    Have you ever had any unkind thoughts about Scientologists?
    Have you ever betrayed Scientology?
    Do you know of any secret plans against Scientology?
    Do you plan to steal a Scientology Organization?
    Have you ever taken money to injure Scientology?
    Do you deserve to be helped by Scientology?
    Have you ever used Dianetics or Scientology to force sex upon anyone?
    Have you ever falsified a claim for money to be repaid to you or to be paid you?
    Do you know of any plans to injure a Scientology Organization?
    Do you know of any plans to injure a Scientologist?
    Are you upset about this Security Check?
    What question in this check shouldn’t I ask you again?
    Have you withheld from answering anything because it might injure someone?
    What unkind thoughts have you thought while I have been doing this check?
    Have any of your answers here been designed to injure another?
    Are you upset about this Security Check?
    Security Check of Scientology Students

    Policy Letter, June 29, 1961

    Are you coming on this course in order to get away from someone or something?
    Are you here to get into something? to find out whether Scientology works? to prove that Scientology can’t help you?
    Are you coming on this course with the intention of killing off your body? with the intention of spinning? or going insane?
    Are you presently taking tranquilizers? drugs? or medication of any sort?
    Have you had sex with any other student? a staff member?
    Are you trying to get another student to have sex with you? or a staff member?
    Have you coughed or distracted others during a lecture?
    Have you criticised this course, or the organization, verbally or in writing to non-Scientologists?
    Have you been thinking unkind or critical, thoughts about your preclear? L. Ron Hubbard? your instructor? your auditor? other students? staff members?
    Are you in disagreement with any of the stable data of Scientology?
    Have you secretly violated any course rule, or regulation? passes on restricted data of Scientology to unauthorized persons? tried to give Scientology a bad name?
    Are you making any Scientologist guilty of anything?
    Have you done anything that would discredit Ron or Mary Sue Hubbard, or your instructors, by reason of their having trained you?
    Is there anything that L. Ron Hubbard, or your instructors should mistrust you for that you haven’t told them about?
    Are you in communication with someone who understands more about Scientology than L. Ron Hubbard?
    Is anyone hostile to Scientology assisting you financially on this course?
    Is anyone here counting on you to keep a secret for him?
    Have you any feeling of “injured innocence” at having been asked these questions?
    Have you been critical of the data or quality of the tapes?
    Have you ever written and then destroyed critical messages addressed to L. Ron Hubbard?
    How do you feel about these questions?
    Auditor’s Sec Check

    Policy Letter July 7, 1961

    Have you ever permitted a preclear to take control of the session?
    Have you ever startled a preclear when he was on a comm lag?
    Have you ever permitted a preclear to have secrets from you?
    Have you ever blamed the preclear for running over time?
    Have you ever blamed the Director of Processing or L. Ron Hubbard for your preclear’s case not advancing?
    Have you ever failed to flatten a process when it was still biting?
    Have you ever jammed a preclear into a one-way flow and left him stuck there in it?
    Have you ever audited badly?
    Do you regard auditing as a punishment?
    Do you feel that auditing is too good for psychotics, or cripples or criminals?
    Have you ever been distressed because of a preclear’s physical or mental pain under auditing?
    Have you ever stolen from a preclear?
    Have you ever stolen another auditor’s preclear?
    Is there any question the Director of Processing or L. Ron Hubbard should have asked you and hasn’t?
    Do you hope you don’t be found out?
    Have you ever avoided receiving auditing yourself?
    Have you ever mistrusted your E-Meter?
    Is there anything mysterious to you about an E-Meter?
    Have you ever let a preclear control you?
    Do you think selling auditing is really a swindle?
    Do you think there is anything wrong with having your own privacy invaded?
    Have you ever sought to prove that auditing would not work?
    Have you ever done anything to slow down L. Ron Hubbard’s research?
    Have you ever wasted auditing time?
    What do you wish you hadn’t done?
    Are Scientologists’, or Ron’s goals really false?
    Are you upset by this security check?

  111. Freedom from Slavery. Alsoo to not get lost in a flow of negative opinions on something. I am going to break free. I LIKE THIS CLIP OF MI LADY MILEY CYRUS. Get over it you prudes.

  112. Any reactions Scientologists ?


  114. Lincoln started that way. We can only dream 😉

  115. What wonderful news. Congratulations on expanding your family. So very nice.

  116. Why is this word in middle of sentence caps?
    “A perfect Knowledge
    and the next one.

    I quess I gotta get the book. Small fee for being forever ruined by MUs.

  117. Tons. I can not even read those Qs right now. I need to balance my Tao. Thank you CD ~ I will save for later.

  118. Thank you CD. Pls read quote above again. If there is no – and no + there is freedom.
    Hugs 🙂

  119. They pulled it in. These thetans should be glad that this mental rape is available for the first time in 100 quadrillion years 88 thousand months 400,440,000 days 990,000 hrs 1,000,000 seconds!

    I know this is true because my e-meter told me and we all know that if the needle goes blip it is a sign that truth has been registered. And any disagreement with me and I will write you up and you will eat left over slop while being savaged by the most ethical people on the planet.

    If you are not taking over the planet with standard tech you are a tiny thetan.

  120. Cat Daddy, please consider this point of view as well: “What exactly qualifies these sec checkers to be accepted as qualified to deliver such a service in the first place?”. This is something, a lesson I learned from Arnaldo Lerma that I will always be grateful for. “Who are these people really that are delivering these things in the first place?” Let me get personal at this point. I remember when I was scheduled for a Security Check by the ED/Reg NY FDN that not only STOLE my mail from L. Ron Hubbard to me and walked out of the building with it hidden in his underwear, but stole my dispacthes to the Guardian’s Office, all the money on my account and destroyed the invoices to go with the money so his actions could not be traced? And all of this at my point on the Bridge when my first NEXT step was the HQS course? 🙂 Alarme! 🙂 I didn’t know what to think because I had only been alive in this life to me teens at the time, and I asked myself “Could this really have happened to me or are these people making it up?” They were making it up. Why? As the C/S told me to my face “And it’s on policy and everything. I am the C/S not you! Faggot!” Do you get it? 🙂 I finally got it, a little to late to day anything substantial about it, but I got it. 98% Of the people I meet in life have no familiarity with Dianetcs, Scientology or L. Ron Hubbard at all. So, my message to them for the holidays is “Hey, don’t worry, be happy, the Church of Scientology has already done their best to cheat you, me and every other man, woman or child on this planet out of our brief breath in eternity chance to go free and make it”. Isn’t that what churches are supposed to be famous for? 🙂

  121. Hopefully you understand the difference between addiction and enslavement.

  122. How upsetting this is to be in existence! Thank you for exposing it.

  123. Hi again, Monte 🙂

    Would you mind posting any comments you would like to make about this book, now that you’ve finished reading it? I’ve read some parts of it and find it to “ring of truth.” A good example is the following from the above Article 8,:

    “…that you THINK and FEEL with the same energy as your world is created from, that your thoughts are electro-magnetic blueprints which eventually externalize as events and things you have either longed for – or greatly feared OR as those things which, good and bad, you have done to others [overt-motivator sequence].”

    The above quote aligns with LRH’s description of theta, postulates and the overt-motivator sequence – but expressing it as “electro-magnetic blueprints” puts it more in physics terms, which I believe is the actuality. I have the idea that there are other things in the book that also supplement what LRH discovered – and also add entirely new concepts as well.

  124. Do you regard auditing as a punishment?
    Well, what da you think?

    Do you think selling auditing is really a swindle?
    Yes, especially the one that says “we are not auditing you”

    “Are Scientologists’, or Ron’s goals really false?”
    Yes, I don’t like to be Ron’s slave, let alone a slave to his minions.

    “Are you upset by this security check?”
    Gee, I thought I was a pc getting auditing, how the fuck did I ended up in an interrogation room?

    Ok, ok, I give up. I’ll be a totally self-determined but compliant and obedient subject now.

    Thanks Ron!

  125. yes I did. They will not see me or talk to me.It could last days or years Too early to tell.

  126. I’m including the clip from Conan the Barbarian, where Conan finally confronts the High Priest of the evil cult.

    James Earl Jones is magnificent as Thulsa Doom, the hypnotist and mind controller. His hypnotic command line to Conan made a huge impact on me when I first watched it, and I never forgot it:

    “I’m the wellspring from which you flow. When I’m gone you will never be. What will your world be without me?”

    I thought it was a perfect metaphor for Black Dianetics, as all that an hypnotic trance is, is the displacing of the source point of control and perceptions from the subject to the operator. Thus the Hypnotist assumes the status of Source point for the person under a trance.

    That, in short, is how you make slaves.

    That is why I took the moniker Conan, as I knew then, that I’ would inevitably find myself doing this; to help bring some balance to the rampant lunacy of Scientology.

    And no, I do not advocate any violence, just the truth please.

  127. That was unfair, I just made the refering to the Nazi’s mistake , that will get me Permabanned at some messageboards.

    Because it kills the conversation

  128. Hi again to you marildi! Well, you’ve made a simple request. Let’s see how involved I can make the response. 🙂

    I first listened to the audio version of the book and now I’ve started reading it. With this type of material I actually prefer reading it for myself as to listening to another read it. However, as I’m continually being prompted by what I read to venture off into all manner of excursions into various levels of consciousness, reading the material takes me much, much longer. But, that said, I do seem to get a great deal more out of the material by reading it so the time spent doing so is really irrelevant.

    Marildi, when I first got into this material via the audio version, I experienced the aspect of my mental machinery, that is never not comparing one thing or things to another thing or things, shift into high gear. At the top of the list of things for the book to be compared to was the book A Course in Miracles, which is also metaphysical material dictated to a scribe. Now, I have to say that I do recognize that making comparisons is quite possibly the most efficacious device for learning, while seeming to exist in a world of perception, that I have had. However, I have recently begun to notice that where I am now with regards to exploring in consciousness, the constant making of comparisons has lost its effectiveness. Indeed, it is now more of a distraction than it is a help. So, that being the case, I made a conscious effort to suspend all comparisons while I took in this material. Consequently marilidi, I have found the information Jesus has conveyed through “the recorder” (the woman who actually wrote the book), to be remarkable, expanding and enormously useful.

    You probably already have this link: It’s the website where you can either read or listen to the book in several languages.

    marildi, I can only expect that, as you read this book, you will come across much that will supplement LRH’s discoveries as well as expand upon them. But, even if you don’t….the journey can still be quite invigorating. 🙂 Have some fun!

    A bonus for you: here’s a link to a short blog I posted on Sunday. Within the content are links to three profound TEDx talks (I was compelled to share them) that reach a hand back to touch our wonderful and enlightening conversation on the Siddhartha post.

    Much Love ~ Monte

  129. It is very accurate

  130. Evidence sugests L Ron Hubbard did not like the free spirit of children

    proove me wrong

  131. That Jesus was the “son of god” was decided under the Roman Emperor Constatin, before that we were all”children of God”

  132. Dutch cow, dutch greenfields

  133. Your blessing Marty and Mosey

  134. Hand Conan his membership card and teach him the new secret handshake. His critical mind is seized up, now we can lovingly usher him into the fold.

    Congrats Conan, now we want you to practice and perfect forced starring while sending energy out of your eyes to convince the recipient of your “being there” super powers.

    And remember Conan, when it’s time to harm others in the name of the “only hope for man” don’t let secondaries and bank make you feel sad about violating people. I, Ron, says it takes great bravery to harm people and not let your conscience get in the way. Only a free being can discount all codes of decency because all codes of decency are decent and we are not moralists, we go by cash flow in and enemies crushed as stats.

    Because the whole Jesus thing was an implant, so is love. I, Ron, have found that ‘loyalty and love’ are part of the Stinky Face Poop incident.
    That is why I betrayed my wife. I had to, loyalty is an implant. I did it for the greatest good. This is pure science.

    People who have dramatized the Stinky Face Poop incident:

    Martin Luther King
    Desmond Tutu
    Jesus (well, he did not exist but I love making him look bad)
    Mother Theresa etc etc etc

    These people are dramatizing and should be shunned.

    We have also found ‘goodness’ to be part of the Schmengle Angel Wrench Incident. There was an Angel named Schmengle who was the first original plumber 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, years ago. Without getting into how I, Ron, was the only being in the history of forever to finally uncover this and finally put an end to this obsession with ‘goodness’, all I can say is I have done the work. All I need from you now is a seized up critical thinking capacity and some cash which I, Ron, will never get.

    Oh by the way, I have just found a new implant called: Truth is Bad for Biz Incident. It is a most vicious piece of bank. When I went through this god awful electronic memory my finger nails curled and I saw that all people that don’t become Scientologist have a horrible future. You have no idea how black it is for them. I have seen it, it is so bad that it makes me want to barf jelly beans. You have to listen to Justin Beaver for eternity. So don’t be mamby pamby. Get on the bridge and clog up that critical thinking capacity. The future of earth depends on you. And so do I.

  135. What ex Scientologists KNOW is that you can go without money but not without your integrety, they learned it the hard way.

  136. Gerhard Waterkamp

    Philosophy as Love and pursuit of wisdom by intellectual means and moral self-discipline can set the goals to strive.
    For the black man chained in the bowls of a slave ship, abused and deprived a key to the lock and a few weapons to take over the ship to sail home might be more appropriate.
    I would agree, there is no mandate to hate the oppressor, but you should also not passively or actively support his demeaning actions.

  137. Dear girl, this one is for you !

  138. I was wondering, Can we get Gerry armstrong back into the country yet ?

  139. Cat Daddy & Brian,

    You two are clearly theetie-wheetie, bypassed cases.

    You both are to report to the Hole at once, and are condemned to two life times of memorizing and chanting verbatim the Responsibility of Leaders.

    Background sound will be provided by a continuous stream of COB’s glorious GAT’s Events.


  140. Margot Diaz Learned


  141. Monte, thanks so much for your comments. I’ve read a little more of the book and plan to continue! And I took note of your thoughts about making comparisons and will experiment with it. 😉

    I also read the blog post you wrote at the link you gave and saw that there was a problem with the link for the Phyllis Shacter TEDx video. JFYI, by googling I was able to find it here:

    That woman certainly has the capacity to “reach” with her communication! Btw, I read one time that in some language (I think it was one of the Scandinavian languages) the word for “confront” also means “touch.” I found that to be very interesting because when confronting something or someone there is almost a “physical” feeling of touching. Anyway, I was reminded of that and thought it might mean something to you too.

    Much love in return,
    marildi 🙂

  142. p.s. I meant that I took note of your thoughts about NOT making comparisons.

  143. Thank God, someone understands!!!! I’ve always thought theetie wheetie was under rated. And I’m over joyed that I bypassed somer case! Saved some money.

    Report to the Hole?

  144. Cat Daddy, I just want to tell you that Diana Hubbard absolutely loved her father, L. Ron Hubbard, and was positively enamored with him,., in her early thirties. She visited Austin, Texas, to do an event and I was appointed as her hostess, chauffeur, etc., and spent many hours with her. She was a very free spirit herself, a very talented entertainer, and I can assure you with all vehemence, that she would not be like this if her father had suppressed her free spirit in any way. She had been a ballerina, could play the piano like a concert pianist, and played such classics as Chopin, etc. She wrote her own music and it was some of the best I have ever heard. She was fun loving, spirited, and wanted to go “kicker dancing”, (country music dancing, much in vogue at the time), but was not allowed to by the then Assistant Guardian for Public Relations, Donnie Webster, who thought it might be a security risk for her.. She desperately wanted to go and I was ready to take her. This after having been up all night before getting her stats up as CS-6, (Commodore’s Staff for Public Divisions), traveling on an airplane, coming to Austin, giving a concert that was delayed by several hours, and then going out with a bunch of Scientologists for dinner, where she laughed, joked and was kind of a prankster, making a mess out of the condiments on the table. She is one of the more free spirits I have ever met, and I know one when I meet one! I cannot imagine her being this way, if L. Ron Hubbard didn’t like the free spirit of children!

    She told me that her father, “ever the gentleman”, (her words) had sent her a dozen red roses for Valentine’s Day, (which had just passed), and she told me also that her mother, Mary Sue Hubbard, was an extremely organized lady. She also told me that Ron and Mary Sue, her parents, had met in Austin, Texas “across the street” (her words again, as we were getting in the elevator at the Austin Org at the time, which is across the street from the main part of the University of Texas.) She said Mary Sue was going to school there and her Dad gave lectures there. This was corroborated by another man who came into the Austin Org one day while I was at the reception desk, and asked about L. Ron Hubbard, saying that he had listened to LRH give lectures at the University of Texas, some thirty years earlier!

    It was very clear to me that Diana loved and respected her parents very much, and I just want you to know that so that you don’t have any misconceptions.

    Additionally, there are many early lectures where LRH talks about the free spirit of little kids, and how they can be more sane than adults. I would love to give you exact references, but it would take me hours and hours to find those references. I know there is one lecture, where he talks about a little kid not being able to watch a football game on TV with his parents more than a few minutes, because he just can’t sit around that long and would rather be in motion! He said this from the perspective of the little kid being active and he was complimentary about him not being a spectator in life; that the little kid would be more inclined to go outside and play football himself! That really resonated with me at the time, because I was a very active little kid, and I could only watch football for a few minutes and then I wanted to go out and play! Later, as an adult I would spend hours and hours watching football with my Dad!

    I always enjoy your posts, Cat Daddy, and if you ever come to Texas, I’ll take you and your wife/sweetheart “kicker dancing” and we’ll have some fun!

  145. marildi, thank you so much for taking the time to find the location where Phyllis’s video could be viewed and sharing that on my blog. I really appreciate it. Also, thank you for the info about “confront” and “touch.” It works! Like, you noted, “…when confronting something or someone there is almost a ‘physical’ feeling of touching.” Never thought of it like that before but I believe it’s a good way to think about it. 🙂

    marildi, just as a side note…For probably the past seven years I have had intervals of being quite prolific with contributing blog posts to the website you visited. Originally I blogged using my full name but problems developed around that so I switched to pseudonym. Blogging on that site in this community has provided me with an incredible classroom both within and without! When I moved back here I sort of took on Fort Smith as my cause. After concluding the city needed to be liberated I was going to step up and lead the liberation. LOL! I was a lone scientologist that was going to confront the suppression I observed in this community and better the conditions for one and all. I was going to accomplish something that was worthy of an IAS Freedom Medal Award. Well…that was the state of mind I was in when I entered this classroom. But did I ever have some things to learn! I was so naive.

    I have always been a person who wanted to make things better across my dynamics (one of the reasons why SC had such a strong appeal for me) but working more from a ‘behind the scenes’ vantage point than a position of ‘standing in the spotlight.’ In Mission Fort Smith (that’s what I called it), though, it was necessary that I grab a bit of the spotlight (that’s another story). 🙂

    As a being who has had a basic purpose of wanting to make things better, I had a core problem. The core problem was a ‘wrong target.’ I was constantly focusing my intention, attention and effort into the experience. I was attempting to change the experience from within the experience. And that is a wrong target but that is how I approached my personally assigned mission of liberating Fort Smith. Start of class!

    In my Fort Smith classroom I have learned that the experience cannot be changed from within the experience. There is no cause and there are no actual ’causes’ to champion in the experience. Experience can only be changed in consciousness and that’s where all the change that seems to occur in experience takes place.

    An excerpt from Letter #4 in the Christ Returns, Speaks His Truth book:

    “As many of you are aware, you are entering a new phase of world history, during the course of which it will be realized that no longer is the great divide between the wealthy and the poor. The great divide will be in consciousness. The divide will be between those who have been able to find entrance into the higher spiritual consciousness and radiate love and acceptance equally to all – friends and foes – and who make it their goal to radiate Divine Consciousness into every facet of their daily lives – and those who remain encased within their ego-drives, seeking domination of the weak. They may appear to succeed for a while – but eventually they will fail and their suffering in their self-created darkness will be great.”

    marildi, as I have been adjusting my consciousness to view everyone I perceive, to be a version of me and have the same interests (adopting a we are all One perspective), as I become more mindful of my propensity for judging others (a default response) and become better at disabling the default response before it occurs, as I become more adept at being able to respond in a loving way, as I learn to forgive without judgment….my life experience is smoothing out to be a joyful and peaceful journey. There are no longer any self created ominous disasters looming within the experience as likely probabilities. This is because the ones that were ‘on my table’ have been removed from my consciousness by me. As for any new ones that surface…they cannot endure Love.

    Once again marildi, you have prompted me take yet another path within and have a look around. Thank you. I am most grateful.

    With Much Love ~ Monte

  146. Ah, Monte, you are so validating! And I appreciate you sharing so much of yourself. One thing that particularly struck me this time was what you wrote here:

    “As I have been adjusting my consciousness to view everyone I perceive, to be a version of me and have the same interests (adopting a we are all One perspective), as I become more mindful of my propensity for judging others (a default response) and become better at disabling the default response before it occurs, as I become more adept at being able to respond in a loving way, as I learn to forgive without judgment….my life experience is smoothing out to be a joyful and peaceful journey.”

    Now, I honestly wasn’t meaning to make a comparison :), and it wasn’t a matter of metal machinery going into action; it was just that when I got the concept of your perspective (expressed in brief as the attitude of “we are all One”) I clearly understood how that would enable you to respond in a loving way – and at that point I couldn’t help but think of what I myself have been applying and practicing in recent times to achieve the same end, which happens to be Scientology principles.

    It could be simply expressed as TR-0 with the intention and purpose of being pan-determined, which can be quite a challenging “drill” (or “practical”) in life! It takes not only being there and confronting but doing so in the broadest possible sense, along with using one’s whole spectrum of knowledge, which would include specifics about the situation at hand as well as basic principles about life in general (learned mainly in Scientology but elsewhere too). It could be worded as ARC and KRC. And it’s something one can keep getting better at, obviously.

    Anyway, thank you in turn for prompting me to “have a look around” and put it into words. Carry on with your loving mission!

    Much love 🙂

  147. It makes me sad, because so many children of others suffered, he had his favorites.

    Thank you for the standing invitation

  148. Find support Lovealways. I am sorry to hear about this.

  149. marildi, I get what you’re saying about TRO and I very much agree with you. Now…about the subject of comparing (yes, it’s now a subject 🙂 ), there’s much more for me to explore on this. I suspect that my consideration with regards to the process of comparing now being a hindrance is derived from a misperception on my part.

  150. Okay, then I’ll keep an eye on your posts for any future comments on “the subject.” 🙂

  151. You seem to have overlooked L Ron Hubbard’s abuse of some of his own children: Ron Jr. his son by his first wife, Alexis his daughter by his 2nd wife, or Quentin his son – who committed suicide – by his 3rd wife.

    And you seem also to have overlooked L. Ron Hubbard’s abuse of other people’s children: the 1961 Children’s Sec Check, the chain locker on the Royal Scotman, his use of children as servants, and the Children’s RPF.

    Hubbard made sure that these abusive behaviors were maintained – even after he was gone – by having these behaviors institutionalized. He made them part of his so called “religion.”

    Not a nice thing to do, especially as the nastiness is deceptively wrapped in a cloak of seeming enlightenment and sanity.

  152. The chain locker incident of one one child who spent some time in there before Mary sue took that matter and that incident under her control and had the child removed at once.
    Baren Barez was part of that scenario How and why do I know because I was there and was yeoman. to Baron Barez in HCO .at that time the ship was the Royal Scotsman.
    The child was known as tiger.and due to risks involved with his behavior
    the child was shortly after Both the mother and child were asked to leave
    and arrangements made for them to leave.
    I did not see children abuse on orders of Hubbard at the ship. and might I say after he died. If so and its documented , where were the Authorities ? Neither Hubbard or Mary sue are here to defend themselves on these remarks by you. If you can document this please

  153. There were many instances of abuse of children in the chain locker. Other witnesses – such as David Mayo – were also on the ship and they disagree with you.

    And what have you to say for the 1961 Children’s Security Check?

    Or L. Ron Hubbard’s use of children as personal servants/slaves in his bizarre little world where he ruled as the “Commodore” and “Source.”

    And what have you to say of the Children’s RPF, started by Hubbard in 1976?

    No, sorry, Hubbard, and his alter-ego Scientology, despite the misleading candy-coating, are abusive, not only to adults, but also to children.

    Where were the authorities? You know as well as I that Scientology, as established by Hubbard, was a secretive and insular operation, especially at Sea. The authorities didn’t know.

    L. Ron Hubbard spent his last decade in deep hiding because he was the subject of investigations and grand juries, having to do with abuse and with fraud. Mary Sue, his wife, went to federal prison.

    Every day, more is unearthed about this secretive operation run by L. Ron Hubbard. And the more that’s unearthed, the worse Hubbard and Scientology looks.

  154. No reason to be sounded harsh and defensive I said what I witnessed
    Lets allow each one their view and leave it. I never said or did I agree with
    Sec Checks on kids.I am well aware of that.
    I stopped my own child becoming one of those victims because I wouldn’t tolerate it , even thow it was attempted to be started and done behind my back, I caught the mishandling at the time , and I confronted those who tried and attempted to do it plus reported them to the authorities they backed down when they knew that , and I didn’t allow them to threaten me
    either even when they tried denying any attempt
    My child wasn’t going to let them get away with it behind her mothers back even tho she might have been io years old..That order was not made by Hubbard . I decline to further comment on yr view.

  155. Understood.

    Yet there’s no debating that Hubbard placed children in servitude to himself, using children as servants, sometimes consuming their entire youth. Scientologists regarded that as an honor for the child, but it was a perversion and also child abuse.

    Thanks for the response.

    Be well.

  156. Then those parents that it was known to them that their child was abused in such claims eg sec check, One would ask the question why didn’t they speak up at the time.They are entitle to justice.?I did and I got the authorities involved. theirs always two sides to ever situation

  157. In life, there is no percentage when it comes to responsibility. Two or more individuals can be 100% responsible for one occurrence. “To make things go right” whether others consider it your area of control or not. Hubbard didn’t always live by his own words, but they often had workable value. My own standards are the most difficult for me to live up to, but I never stop trying. There are many things he wrote that he should have re-read on a daily basis.

  158. The parents were also responsible; unfortunately the parents were deceived, and brainwashed, members of Hubbard’s cult, who thought that L. Ron Hubbard, using their children as servants, was a high honor.

  159. Here are some of Hubbard words that Hubbard lived by: “PR is overt [advertised]. Intelligence is covert.”

    IMO, Hubbard’s Scientology, from its inception, mainly operated like an Intelligence operation [it was covert], with well-meaning [advertised] Scientologists as unwitting dupes, sincerely making promises that their guru, Hubbard, knew could not be kept.

  160. Dear Marty

    Thank you for introducing us to James Allen. After Googling him I bought his book “As a Man Thinketh” and these two sentences leapt out at me. “A noble and Godlike character is not a thing of favor or chance, but is the natural result of continued effort in right thinking, the effect of long cherished association with Godlike thoughts. An ignoble and bestial character, by the same process, is the result of the continued harboring of grovelling thoughts.”

    I recall in the original editions of LRH’s books there would be a list of past wise men that he would credit for being forerunners of his contributions to mans’ understanding. In fact I remember a tape where he suggests challenging psychiatrists as to whether they believed in God

    Over the years references to the eighth dynamic have become few and far between, and yet I would have thought that God and Theta are inextricably connected. If God is the creator of everything, ‘God’ by definition must be a no-thing, but that is the definition of theta. Once theta is removed from Scientology all that is left is entheta. Once God is marginalised all that remains is a downward spiral in other words without love understanding becomes “only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal”

    Pip –

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