That’s As Real As It Gets

It don’t get no realer than that.

The world is seeing the actual aftermath of Scientology real time, thanks to Leah Remini.

As Jason Beghe noted on Tony Ortega’s blog, overcoming intense, directed negativity is not an exception for stars, it is the rule for those who dare to leave Scientology.

Jason also talks plain truth as to the provenance of the vengeful nature of the Scientology cult.

In my view, the moral of the ongoing story is:

Regain your positivity and contribute to the resurrection of others who are similarly situated.  Help one another to gain your own definition.

55 responses to “That’s As Real As It Gets

  1. Well said Marty.

    There is no greater joy in the world – than helping others WHILE also helping yourself gain a more uplifting view of the world.

    Sure — it’s a tough world. BUT it’s not an unsurmountable one. It’s not wholly unfriendly as those IN any cult would want you to believe.

    It’s only difficult when we forgot — FORGET — who we are.

    And we are each and every one on this planet capable of being god-like …

    After all — doesn’t scripture say we were created in his/her image?


  2. What a joy!

    UPLIFTING – all the way.

  3. AND since I’m keeping an unofficial score on who does the public like better — Leah Remini or the current kool-aid drinking celeb who refuses to have Leah’s name mentioned on her set —

    When I started this little FB poll based on number of “likes”

    Leah – was at 68,000
    The other person was at 70,000

    Leah = 85,485
    The meanie = 72,889

    Proving that the world at large whether they ever were a part of this shameful cult prefers gracious, yet tough people.

    GO LEAH!!

  4. I think the combination of blows dm has suffered starting with the truth rundown, then Debbie Cook, then Leah Remini, and now the Rathbun lawsuit and the Garcia lawsuit are having the little guy reeling. Of course had he resorted to LRH PR tech, which is pretty good (though not really his), he could have recovered. However, he forgets that these people are no longer under his influence, hence his mafia techniques of intimidation are not working.

    I wonder how long until his house of cards topples.

  5. And, ABC’s ratings for DWTS went up by 1.4 million viewers thanks in part to Leah being on the show, I am sure:

  6. Roger from Switzerland Thought


  7. Great song, thanks for the reminder. So true, awesome message.
    TEAM LEAH!!!


    One could exhaust a thesaurus of negative verbiage in describing the
    the “ecclesiastical leader” of corporate Scientology and his minions, but “hypocrites” flashes in neon. The group that prides itself on “help”, absolutely wants those who escape the cult to fail, and as Jason remarked, even to die. The irony is that we thrive and we promote and encourage the success of others. This contrast, which is becoming more apparent with each passing day, will prove to be the “church’s” march into oblivion.

  9. Loved what she said about “everything NOT being my fault” and “getting out of my head” She’s on her way to more happiness than she could have ever imagined…So proud and happy for her! 🙂

  10. Roger from Switzerland Thought

    Leah started at 62500 !

  11. Thanks, Marty, for your time and effort. Your opinions are valuable to many.

  12. Marty,

    Thanks for this post and the first class way you conveyed the truth. I am deeply touched.

    I’m posting the lyrics to the beautiful song you attached as well:

    After bein’ 25, you know, just trying to survive in the world
    Bout to have a little boy or baby girl. Who knows?
    Anyway, just when you start gettin that little age and experience to
    You start thinkin about stuff…tryin to make the right moves
    So bust it out, this is what I was thinkin, check it
    Yo, the education of the Lon-chicka-Lonnie Lynn
    Began, began with time
    Bein my bloodline is one with the divine
    In time brotha, you will discover the light
    Some say that God is Black and the Devil’s White
    Well, the Devil is wrong and God is what’s right
    I fight, with myself in the ring of doubt and fear
    The rain ain’t gone, but I can still see clear
    As a child, given religion with no answer to why
    Just told believe in Jesus cuz for me he did die
    Curiosity killed the catechism
    Understanding and wisdom became the rhythm that I played to
    And became a slave to master self
    A rich man is one with knowledge, happiness and his health
    My mind had dealt with the books of Zen, Tao the lessons
    Koran and the Bible, to me they all vital
    And got truth within ’em, gotta read them boys
    You just can’t skim ’em, different branches of belief
    But one root that stem ’em, but people of the venom try to trim ’em
    And use religion as an emblem
    When it should be a natural way of life
    Who am I or they to say to whom you pray ain’t right
    That’s who got you doin right and got you this far
    Whether you say “in Jesus name” or Hum do Allah
    Long as you know it’s a bein’ that’s supreme to you
    You let that show towards others in the things you do
    Cuz when the trumpets blowin, 24 elders surround the throne
    Only 144,000 gon get home
    Only 144,000 gon get home
    Only 144,000 gon get it baby
    Chorus Cee-Lo:
    I’ve lived and I’ve learned
    I have taken and I’ve earned
    I have laughed, I’ve cried
    I have failed and I have tried
    Sunshine, pouring rain
    found joy through all my pain
    I just wanna be happy with being me
    Let me voice my concern
    So many of my fellow brothers have given themselves a title
    That their actions didn’t earn
    Our ignorance is in the same breath as our innocence
    Subconciously, seeking to find an impressionable mind to convince
    I’ve finally come to the realization why Black people in the worse
    Cuz it’s hard to correct yourself when you don’t know
    Who you are in the first place
    So I try to find the clue in you
    But evidently, White folks know more Black history than we do
    Why’re we bein’ lied to? I ain’t know our history was purposely hidden
    Damn, somethin’ in me wanna know who I am
    So I began my search, my journey started in church
    It gave my heartache relief when I started to understand belief
    Hustlin was like a gift spent my share of time in the streets
    Taught me survival from this evil I’m just gonna have to deal with
    And I felt like a fool when I tried to learn it in school
    It almost seemed like a rehearsal when the only
    Science and math are universal
    Takin elder advice, read the Bible, the Koran
    Searched scrolls from the Hebrew Israelites
    Hold on, this ain’t right, Jesus wasn’t White
    Some leads were granted with insight
    and it’s all in the plan, but it took me some time to overstand
    He still created with the imperfection of man
    So, with followin’ I disagree
    By no means have I forgotten or forgiven what’s been done to me but
    I do know the Devil ain’t no White man, the Devil’s a spiritual mind
    That’s color blind, there’s evil White folk and evil niggas
    You gon surely find there’s no positivity without negativity
    But one side you gonna have to choose
    Any chance to speak I refuse to misuse
    So how can you call yourself God when you let a worldly possession
    become an obsession and the way you write your rhymes and
    Can’t follow your lesson
    If a seed’s sown, you make sure it’s known, you make sure it’s grown
    If you God, then save your own, don’t mentally enslave your own
    If you God, then save your own, don’t mentally enslave your own
    If you God, then save your own, don’t mentally enslave your own
    Well, I’ve lived and I’ve learned
    I’ve taken and I’ve earned
    I have laughed, I have cried
    I failed and I have tried
    Sunshine, pourin rain
    I found joy through my pain
    Just wanna be happy…bein me
    Bein me

  13. It is toppling as we speak. It is an exponential process but a process nevertheless. The way out is the way through ………….Davey. Enjoy your wins!

  14. In that short quiet moment with Tony, Leah spoke some very revealing truths. As an ex-int base staff member I can say she is absolutely correct. If someone “blew” from the base (better word would be “escaped,”) they would eventually be announced at a group meeting and it would be explained to us how they were tracked down and how they are doing really badly in whatever way might make sense to us. And they deserved every bit of it that they were experienced. Couldn’t find work, not making money, unhappy…whatever they did though certainly had to be more that the $2,500 or so we’d make a YEAR. And no one at the base could realize that they WERE much happier being out of that negative, manipulative and demeaning environment–no matter what else was happening to them.

    Leah has the whole crowd, and no doubt the entire TV audience, rooting for her and rooting against the Bad Evil Church. She’s winning that one by 110%. Plus she don’t dance half bad either! 🙂

  15. “Regain your positivity and contribute to the resurrection of others who are similarly situated”.
    My intention is here to achieve the above noted concept. Thank you for expressing it so succinctly Marty.

  16. That Beautiful Supreme God of love God of Wisdom, sits in the heart of us all. He/She makes our eyes to shine when our eyes are used as God’s light beams of goodness.
    Oh Supreme Universal Intelligence in all things, we are Thy Children, Thy Offspring!
    Help us oh Infinite Being to live according to Thy Laws of decency and goodness. Help us to fulfill our individual purpose of conscious evolution. Help us to see the spiritual side to life not just the intellectual.
    I pray that every hurt done in the name of Scientology be healed. I pray that every pain in the heart of every broken family be transformed into a mighty principle that serves others so situated.

    May all the truth seekers in Scientology arrive at that Divine Common Good which metamorphosizes all betrayals of trust into a shining star of wisdom and love, peace and joy, reason and compassion.

    Om Peace Amen

  17. And even you Davey! May you resolve the wrong knowledge and wrong thinking that had led you to conceptualize yourself as something that you are not.

    I know you consider yourself doing good. But you have taken Ron’s mind and superimposed it over your own with the false notion of being the only savior. Such false responsibility can cause a great distortion in your thinking and acting.
    Davey, if you won’t learn on your own, what’s coming at you will help you learn. Wether you like it or not.

  18. one of those who see

    Leah! You are my hero!! It is incredibly brave for her to get out there on DWTS as a new dancer. And she is Florishing and Prospering in the wake of the Suppression from The Church. So well done. Great that she is communicating about what happened. But not in any annoying, over the top way. She is real and people see it. And people love her, as they should. I remember once night, blowing from one of the higher orgs from some insanity and just going out into the city. I was a mess. But, a street musician i knew was playing that night, lots of people around. I went into a coffee shop and ordered hot chocolate and the waiter gave me a refill. I felt safe, loved, comfortable. People are wonderful out here in the “wog” world.

  19. There was a time when thuggery, punishments and escalating punishments were done on Sea Org members for whom escape was difficult. Then it trickled down to non Sea Org staff in the Orgs. Finally, it was occurring on *PUBLIC*. Held against will at Flag, punishments and threats hurled at them in increasing intensity. Leah Remini, even with Celebrity Status was given a procedure given to those in the dreaded Gulag “RPF” Rehabilitation Project Force “The Truth Rundown.”
    Leah Remini was quoted in the Huffington Post an New York Post of stating she endured “5 years of interrogations”. In Scientology Inc. stating something against the party line labels you as “disaffected” “a black propagandist” and the “treatment” is the “Truth Rundown” which can be ongoing for months, if not a year or 2. I describe the “Truth Rundown” briefly in this video.

  20. Madora Pennington

    I agree and want to add: watch out for “ex’s” who haven’t really left yet, even though their body has exited the Cof$.

    Every now and then I run into an “ex” who is so deeply trained in abusive, manipulative Scientology tech, they will run you over in their pursuit of bossiness, and use and all inval/eval necessary to get you to do what they want, which always serves their own agenda.

    You’ll know it if you start to feel like you’re in a reg cycle again. Run.

  21. Leah is a sexy lady. She is the first celebrity that has left the Church of Scientology that I actually have REAL AFFINITY for. Understand? 🙂 She is a whole new breed and wave of free people walking out of and away from the mess called the Church of Scientology! 🙂 If I were a celebrity I would dance with her every day! 🙂 Leah, ARC! 🙂

  22. Did you get the list of Saint Hill people anno 1965 that were declared SP’s ?

  23. Damn the first words of John Cleese this clip sounds like L Ron Hubbard in a lecture.

  24. Exactly.

  25. When I was in Scientology, there was a staff member who was caught giving “squirrels” information from the incomm system..Thumbs up mate…anyway he was declared and we all had to have an emergency meeting…In that meeting it was drummed into us on how he was going to go down the dwindling spiral and how he deserved it….about 2 years later someone on staff told us that he had seen the guy (john) on a park bench homeless and failing in life…This caused another meeting where we were all told “that is what happens when you don’t do Scientology”….It was like they were electrified by it. I didn’t really believe it but it did scare me a little at the time….moving forward to not long before I left and I saw John…WOW!!..Healthy and fantastic. So that staff member had full on lied to us…how surprising!……I intentionally leave my facebook page on public so anyone that might look from the church can see I am alive and well. Love the way Leah Remini is so keeping it in the news, wish we had DWTS america here, then more Aussies would see it.

  26. “It’s not just that they want you to fail. It’s kind of like they want you to die.”

    After he had left, Beghe became the subject of litigation and surveillance, and he said it was some time before he really appreciated what was happening.

    “You realize, they’re trying to destroy me, they’re trying to destroy my family, and they’re very dirty and underhanded. Scientology is psychotic as an organization,” Beghe says. “Would you have a friend who acts like the Church of Scientology does? They think their acts of vengeance are justified and correct. I would never have a friend like that. It’s not safe.”

    For Beghe, encountering Scientology’s program of “Fair Game” only made him more determined.

    “When I became aware that my life and my family’s lives were being threatened, it focused me, you know? I’m not going to sit down and die,” he says. “So I had to do well. I had these lawsuits. I had to make money. And the only way I know to make money is acting.”

    But he said that he and Leah weren’t really the story of Scientology retaliation. “This isn’t really about celebrities. Celebrities are only a tiny percentage of the people who are suffering. I get messages from people all the time. What can I do for them? They’re living in fear,” he says. “People who say they can’t see their mother anymore, or their children. My God, someone like Cindy Plahuta who can’t see her daughter anymore.”

    Disconnection. Surveillance. Harassment. He hears from people all the time who continue to experience Scientology’s legendary retaliation program.

    But he says it puzzles him how the church’s private eyes and attorneys and Office of Special Affairs operatives can continue to do what they do.

    “To be working in OSA and doing that shit, and think you’re saving mankind? You have to be out of your mind. [Scientology leader] David Miscavige is obviously insane,” he says.

    Like I said, the F.B.I. needs to set up a WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM for people who leave or speak out about David Miscavige’s domestic terrorism programs.

  27. “Help one another to gain your own definition.” — Marty

    Such a beautiful line.

  28. She walks the talk as Marty would say. Way to go Leah!!

    You are free of them.

  29. Leah’s great! The best revenge is to Flourish and Prosper, indeed. I think it is obvious that the people who are really flourishing and prospering from Scn are people who A. were positive, and B. took the positive from Scientology and stopped allowing themselves to be told they were doing it wrong.

  30. Leah you are FABULOUS. We all love you. You are an amazing human being! You deserve a medal! Love Wendy Honnor from Australia


    “Linda 8 hours ago 444 thumbs up
    I immediately lose all respect when I find out that someone is affiliated with the COS. I’m glad that Nicole Kidman and Katie Holmes were smart enough to get away from them.”

    This is how David Miscavige has made Scientology more valuable! In his fiduciary trusts as Chairman of the Board! WHO does he owe DUTY to in his capacity as Chairman of the Board? WHO?

    It sure as hell isn’t the Sea Org volunteers. He levies domestic abuse and torture on them.

    It sure as hell isn’t Scientologists! He has thrown them all under the bus! Defrauded them. Squeezed them dry cancelled certs and pushed them BACK down the bridge and off to the right! Wound himself up in court cases of abuse and domestic terrorism.

    It sure as hell isn’t the Church of Scientology, he is BEGGING the Church to be sued instead of HIM in Texas! So the million dollar question is, WHO / WHAT does he have a fiduciary DUTY TO?

    Weeeeell, clearly he is not duty motivated.

    Only to HIMSELF! THAT, is “self absorbed” and ILLEGAL!

    “A fiduciary is a legal or ethical relationship of trust between two or more parties.

    A fiduciary duty is the highest standard of care at either equity or law. A fiduciary is expected to be extremely loyal to the person to whom he owes the duty (the “principal”): he must not put his personal interests before the duty, and must not profit from his position as a fiduciary, unless the principal consents.”

    He has set himself up to be THE PRINCIPLE AND The fiduciary agent!

    And anyone that notices it can expect a hit squad on their front porch!

  32. Principle: Commander of the Sea Organization
    Agent: Chairman of the Board


    Fraud! Misrepresentation! It is so murky and muddy and illegal it is blatantly obvious!

    And while he he wallows in all of this mud, he issues a statement about Leah being “self absorbed”?

  33. That is 1.4 MILLION MORE, MORE, who now dislike the Church of Scientology because David Miscavige and his copies CAN NOT CARE about the person in front of them!

    There is NO excuse for the ABUSE this woman endured! NONE!

    It is a HIGH CRIME to have an ARC broken field! What does David do? ARC breaks 1.4 MORE million people with the Church of Scientology! Because HE DEGRADED Leah Remini behind her back with 1.1 comments and had her tortured with domestic abuse at the Flag Land Base! Hours of hours of sec checks because SHE MISSED HIS WITH HOLDS!

    He is a SCREAMING LIABILITY! This is the Sea Org “getting ethics in on the planet”? Look at yourselves!

  34. You said:

    “In my view, the moral of the ongoing story is:
    Regain your positivity and contribute to the resurrection of others who are similarly situated. Help one another to gain your own definition.

    Yes, Marty – that is what it’s all about. Thank you and yours for your guidance.

  35. Can scientoligists appreciate Hunor ?

  36. Did anyone catch that slippery move he made with “The Basics” courses?

    It is now illegal to read or study Hubbard in your own home. You are ordered to do it as a course!

    Another “bright idea”! Everything right down into the enforce band!

    And guess what happens if word gets out you are learning in your own home? An inspector from the Church is sent out! To ensure you are not learning anything from Hubbard with out paying taxes to David Miscavige!

    This is why there are no books in the libraries!

  37. Michael, this might be a bit off topic, but since this is about stars, does anyone know that Karen Black (OT VII) died of cancer last month? I met her at Flag once. I don’t think Marty mentioned this on the blog unless I missed it. 🙂

  38. my mother was right, stupid fucks all of them. Go and search your own soul

  39. Those two looking at eachother at the end of thr vid speaks volumes

  40. UPDATE: As our commenters pointed out this morning, the Church of Scientology gave Good Morning America a response to Leah Remini’s assertion that it wants her to fail. Here it is…“We know this may come as a surprise to someone as self-absorbed as Ms. Remini, but we could care less if she wins or loses on Dancing With the Stars.”
    Well that says it all right there, doesn’t it? Dedicate your life and soul to a church and here’s what ya get.

  41. It is true, it is toppling. However, I would like to see it finish toppling and being toppled. The time frame for that is what I am wondering about.

  42. It looks to me Michael that the people that complete dm’s version of OT 8 have a lower life expectancy far shorter than the general population. Gee, I wonder if they are PTS.

    Also, it looks to me like the devices in the “Super Power” are taken from “The History of Man” implantation equipment. If that is true than if people ever come out of that run down, they will fall like flies.

  43. Well stated and I agree. In contrast, Leah was absolutely honest, charming and displayed a slight vulnerability which only made me like here more, plus for a novice dancer…she did incredibly well. .

  44. hansje brinker

    Hay Marty,

    I want to let you know that you have reached Holland by a national broadcast on Dutch tv. This evening at half past eight ( Dutch-time):

    Your blog was the first one I visit when I was “in”. I was flabbercast, and to study your blog the first step was made to go away from the church. I am very grateful to you. Thank you!

    Keep up the good work.


  45. “Regain your positivity and contribute to the resurrection of others who are similarly situated. Help one another to gain your own definition”. That says it all really.

    It’s almost exactly 4 years since I publicly left the cult, and my stated intention was to help others get the truth and I am proud to say that along with many others who have stood taller and louder than I, that this intention is bearing tremendous fruit. It’s great to be alive, great to have such a wonderful community and a privilege to help.

  46. That’s OK. Everyone deals with their experience in their own time, and every experience is individual. Life will show them what is needed and wanted. And at some point they will reach for change and healing, or seek refuge in a new indy group to re-enact it all. It is their choice.

  47. I am very Happy for Leah. She seems to be a lovely person, and so full of life. I wish her healing and loads of joy!

    Leah, you are helping so many, just by being you.

  48. Funny Cat Daddy 🙂
    This one is cbs news video with Stephan Fry and the audience. Hilarious!

  49. Yes, Thank you Wendy! And Leah, we are all behind you pushing you up up and away! You shine! And as the Church once said “even heros can have lice”. The church will not transcend life. The church members will be lucky to come back as a rock or perhaps a petrified tree if lucky. They are being lice. Yuck.
    How can one find spiritual enlightenment when being told where exactly to look? It doesn’t happen that way. I get more enlightenment from my morning cup of coffee and watching the birds battle over the seeds in the bird feeder.

  50. The Oracle, you wrote that now it is illegal to study Scn Basics in your own home and must and have to go to a Scn church to read it. When did this change happen? So does that mean that they are no longer letting people do the extension courses for their Basics study? Extension courses were done at home and you either email or mail in your answers to the Sup who reads them and scores your answers and sends you back your grade. Is that not done now?

  51. Late viewing this as I have been on holiday and just got home. Leah Remini – bless her heart. She’s not all that famous here in England, but I do remember the odd episode of King of Queens and her appearance on the John Sweeney documentaries. Poor woman, it sounds like she’s been put through the ringers by DM’s goons 😦 I hope she will be OK, and she really acquitted herself well with her dancing. Her dancing partner seems lovely; I hope that being able to chat to him about her current difficulties was helpful. I do hope she’ll be all right.

    I didn’t know you had this programme in America! I met Len Goodman a year or so at the BBC in London, a very nice man and a true gentleman.

    Love and best wishes to all seeking respite from the tiny talons of DM’s mucky paws.
    IEG x

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