The following passage from The Four Agreements by Don Migel Ruiz was first published nearly twenty years ago. Consider the implications with the subsequent widespread proliferation of social media, online life, and “reality” culture.
Looking at everyday human interactions, imagine how many times we cast spells on each other with our word. Over time this interaction has become the worst form of black magic, and we call it gossip.
Gossip is black magic at its very worst because it is pure poison. We learned how to gossip by agreement. When we were children, we heard the adults gossiping all the time, openly giving their opinions about other people. They even had opinions about people they didn’t know. Emotional poison was transferred along with the opinions, and we learned this as the normal way to communicate.
Gossiping has become the main form of communication in human society. It has become the way we feel close to each other, because it makes us feel better to see someone else feel as badly as we do. There is an old expression that says, ‘Misery likes company’, and people who are suffering in hell don’t want to be all alone. Fear and suffering are an important part of the dream of the planet; they are how the dream of the planet keeps us down.
Using the analogy of the human mind as a computer, gossip can be compared to a computer virus. A computer virus is a piece of computer language written in the same language all the other codes are written in, but with a harmful intent. This code is inserted into the program of your computer when you least expect it and most of the time without your awareness. After this code has been introduced, your computer doesn’t work quite right, or it doesn’t function at all because the codes get so mixed up with so many conflicting messages that it stops producing good results.
Human gossip works exactly the same way. For example, you are beginning a new class with a new teacher and you have looked forward to it for a long time. On the first day of class, you run into someone who took the class before, who tells you, ‘Oh that instructor was such a pompous jerk! He didn’t know what he was talking about, and he was a pervert too, so watch out!’
You are immediately imprinted with the word and the emotional code the person had when saying this, but what you are not aware of is his or her motivation in telling you. This person could be angry for failing the class or simply making an assumption based on fears and prejudices, but because you have learned to ingest information like a child, some part of you believes the gossip, and you go on to the class. As the teacher speaks, you feel the poison come up inside you and you don’t realize you see the teacher through the eyes of the person who gave you that gossip. Then you start talking to other people in the class about this, and they start to see the teacher in the same way: as a jerk and a pervert. You really hate the class, and soon you decide to drop out. You blame the teacher, but it is gossip that is to blame.
All of this mess can be caused by one little computer virus. One little piece of misinformation can break down communication between people, causing every person it touches to become infected and contagious to others. Imagine that every single time others gossip to you, they insert a computer virus into your mind, causing you to think a little less clearly every time. Then imagine that in an effort to clean up your own confusion and get some relief from the poison, you gossip and spread these viruses to someone else.
Now imagine this pattern going on in a never-ending chain between all the humans of earth. The result is a world full of humans who can only read information through circuits that are clogged with a poisonous, contagious virus. Once again, this poisonous virus is what the Toltecs called the mitote, the chaos of a thousand different voices all trying to talk at once in the mind.
Even worse are the black magicians or ‘computer hackers’ who intentionally spread the virus. Think back to a time when you or someone you know was angry with someone else and desired revenge. In order to seek revenge you said something to or about that person with the intention of spreading poison and making that person feel bad about him- or herself. As children we do this quite thoughtlessly, but as we grow older we become much more calculated in our efforts to bring other people down. Then we lie to ourselves and say that person received a just punishment for their wrongdoing.
When we see the world through a computer virus, it is easy to justify the cruelest behavior. What we don’t see is that misuse of our word is putting us deeper into hell.
Yep , that’s it .
In hindsight, I’d have loved to have had either of my parents READ good literature and stories to me, as a child, before bedtime.
Tolstoy reading, not Hubbard writings (or any other of human history’s crackpot writers), for children’s ears.
In hindsight, I today favor reading books by smarter people who are well read, to share their ideas about human history.
Voltaire’s “Candide” is a standout book.
Sadly very true and very apropos.
So true! Liken this concept also, ‘to your body hears every word you say’. More gossip, more self denigrating communication, more evaluation,….it’s all more, more. The worst part is you don’t even have to say it, you can just think it and the energy is out there. So folks, heads up, be aware it’s a cesspool out there.
Very astute post IMHO Marty. Keep on keepin on.
I have a few points to make, to sort of tie what you said, into a few valid points LRH made and my own view points:
1. Axiom 138 : Aberration is the degree of residual plus or minus randomity accumulated by compelling, inhibiting, or unwarranted assisting of efforts on the part of other organisms or the (material) universe.
Aberration is caused by what is done to the individual, not what the individual does, plus his self determination about what has been done to him.
In my words: All of our problems are due to what our parents did to us or for us that they should not of done to us or for us. And what our parents did not do to us or for us that they should of done to us or for us.
All of our problems are rooted in failed parenting.
We are all only as good as we have been bred and brought up.
We are all products of genetics, a conception, a gestation, a birth and an up bringing. If you have a problem with the product, you have to check with the factory for the cause of the problem.
2. Not knowing the difference between:
a. a belief and a fact (a truth and a belief)
b. a fact and an opinion
c. right and wrong
d. true and false
e. intelligent and stupid
f. intelligent and ignorant
g. think and believe (to think and to believe) (I believe, I think)
(When people say they believe, they usually/actually mean they think.)
h. stupidity and ignorance
i. good and bad
j. rational and irrational
k. reasonable and unreasonable
l. good judgement, poor judgement and perverted judgement
m. sane and insane
n. natural law (the laws of nature) and man’s law, humanism, hedonism, individualism.
o. cause and effect.
p. truth and political correctness
q. sensible and non sensible
r. a dialectical and an eristical discussion,
and a lack of common sense and good critical thinking skills,
is the basis for much insanity, much incompetence and pretty well all conflict and seemingly unsolvable problems on earth.
The problem with many people is that they do not know they could think.
And if they could think, they do not know how to think.
There is a right way and wrong way to do almost everything.
Most people think stupid, and backward or perverted
There is crooked thinking and straight thinking and honest thinking.
3. Social medial such as facebook, twitter, etc.. is gossip on steroids.
4. AUTHOR: Edwin Markham (1852–1940)
QUOTATION: We all are blind until we see
That in the human plan
Nothing is worth the making if
It does not make the man.
Why build these cities glorious
If man unbuilded goes?
In vain we build the world, unless
The builder also grows.
Or he is also quoted as saying it this way:
In vain we build a world if at first we don’t build the man.
I expand that to say:
In vain we build a world if at first we don’t build the man with a noble Godly Character.
Here are a few more words of wisdom
◄ Psalm 127:1 ►
A song of Solomon.
Unless the LORD builds the house, the builders labor in vain.
Unless the LORD watches over the city, the guards stand watch in vain.
The truth is nothing more or less than the right answer to any problem.
Only the truth will solve our problems.
The reason all hell is breaking lose on earth, is because the very large majority of people in the world are operating on ignorance and false and limiting data.
5. LRHs write up on “The Role of women in society”, in “Science of survival”.
Man woman equality is equal to a dead battery. (Walter Russel.)
6. The government is a manifestation ( a creation) of the electorate. There is no fault in the government that the electorate cannot find in themselves. If the electorate has a problem with the government , they only have to look in the mirror for the cause of the problem. When the electorate becomes honest, intelligent and competent, the government will become honest, intelligent and competent. The more the people complain about (or criticize) the government, the worse the government will get. It is similar to one spouse criticizing another spouse or parents criticizing children. The more criticizing, the worse the spouse and conditions will get.
7. Democracy can only be given to sane, sensible, intelligent, responsible, properly educated, people with good intentions and who are sane enough to pull in the right direction.
Same with freedoms.
There are many things wrong with the world.
The present situation is a perfect storm with everything gone wrong.
One way to attempt to attempt to sum it up in a few words, is:
That there has been a serious flaw in the understanding and practice of freedoms, liberty and happiness.
People think freedom means they can do anything they want.
Nothing is further from the truth.
There is no such thing as unlimited freedom.
All freedoms have limitations and conditions.
Freedom can only come with responsibility.
Freedom cannot be given to the irresponsible, the stupid, the insane, criminals and the like.
8. On earth, the truth is determined by honest, probituous men.
But ultimately everyone and everything is subject to universal law.
Everything on this earth as well as this universe, is governed and controlled by universal law. Anything that is not in alignment with universal law will fail, sooner or later. Failure is feedback from the universe that something was not in alignment with universal law.
All men must get in alignment with universal law, theirs is the agony of waiting.
I was called a terrorist yesterday, but when I came out of jail, many people embraced me, including my enemies, and that is what I normally tell other people who say those who are struggling for liberation in their country are terrorists – Nelson Mandela
The lure of the pseudoscientific vocabulary and promises of Dianetics cannot but condemn thousands who are beginning to emerge from scientific illiteracy to a continuation of their susceptibility to word-magic and semantic hash.
S.I. Hayakawa 1951
“Reality” shows, TMZ, Hollywood’s ET and the like, magazines such as “People” etc, papers – “The Daily Enquirer”, much of Facebook, Twitter, all gossip, all viruses that infect us. So true.
Are you sure the above 1951 quote of S.I. Hayakawa isn’t itself “word-magic and semantic hash” – and negative gossip, as per the blog post?
Compare that quote to the positive output in a letter to Hayakawa by Frank Gerbode – which he based on actual observation at the time (1975). Here is a portion of that letter:
Dear Mr Hayakawa, AS A PSYCHIATRIST AND A SCIENTOLOGIST, I have had a unique opportunity to observe and compare the effects of traditional psychotherapies and Scientologic techniques, in my own hands and in those of others. Scientology and Dianetic techniques work better and faster than any other techniques I have observed in relieving human suffering and increasing ability without creating either a sense of dependency on the therapist or a tendency to copout and blame others for one’s troubles. If you talk to a person who has . . . (received Scientology counselling), you will observe a highly responsible and causative individual.
I would like to deal further with the issue of the psychotherapeutic copout. Any theory that attempts to explain human behavior by means of fixed mechanical laws of cause and effect has the potential liability of becoming a copout such as you describe. Freud thought that all aspects of mental behavior were completely determined by childhood experiences; the behaviorist believes that all behavior is the inevitable result of present external stimuli acting on patterns established by past conditioning. So why single out Scientology for vituperation in this respect?
I urge you to investigate Scientology more fully. Talk to a few Scientologists. Perhaps read a few of the more recent Scientology publications. If you do this, you will, I think, find that there is a great deal of agreement between your views and those of Mr Hubbard.
Yours truly, Frank A Gerbode, M.D
Be impeccable with your word…
Michael Fairman, what you said is exactly what a friend of mine pointed out to me the other day. He even used the term “virus” just as you did, and said it’s spreading. Those comments, as well as yours, (and of course the main post) really made me think about this matter, and how the media, especially entertainment programs, often panders to the lowest, basest elements of society, and puts forth actions as acceptable behaviors which then becomes “the norm” and influences the population as a whole. Some say the media is a reflection of society, others say society is shaped by the media. I think both may be true, but my question is why sink to the lowest factions, why not provide more uplifting information? My strategy has always been avoidance – I try to just stay away from what I don’t like, the ‘bad stuff’ so I don’t have to see it or deal with it, but I am finding it very difficult to do that these days, and finding that avoidance just doesn’t work anymore. So, I wonder, what’s the answer? Sorry, I have no insightful comments to offer here, I guess I am just looking for answers. Thanks for the discussions, always love reading thoughtful commentary and views.
Top ten favorite books of all time for me. It’s helped many people.
“Don’t take things personally” should be in the 11th commandment.
Not counting the ‘cringe’ I experience when reading about any comparison between the human mind and a computer (thanks Ron, lol) Mr. Ruiz’s analysis struck me as being quite beautiful (i.e. spot on).
The question for me is, what is the anti-virus software for the human mind? Not ‘where’ is it, but ‘what’ is it?
The problem is clear, the solution, no so much.
No doubt, gossip is a virus to our human thought (via thinking) though it’s most devastating effects appear in our human emotion (via feeling) for the simple reason our human emotion is creative, while our human thought is directive.
I imagine at first glance ‘education’ is the key. But such an idea presumes (and is predicated upon) a ‘willingness’ to receive such an education. Which willingness may or may not even be present owing to the original problem at hand, i.e. ‘conditioning’ via examples of ‘others’.
If I cannot find a ‘solution’ for myself (HOW to don’t gossip, lol), I imagine I may inadvertently find myself gossiping about the problem (those bastards).
Oh shoot, here I am commenting again. Last one, promise. I really shouldn’t post unless I could say something that would be helpful to someone else, but I just re-read the article (excerpt) and found myself really mulling it over in my mind. I work in a corporate office type environment, and don’t know how gossip affects those who work in other professions (for instance, someone who works alone or with one other person, or doing something outdoors probably would face different work-place challenges than mine) but it’s a serious issue for me. The reason is that I totally dislike and won’t participate in malicious gossip designed to harm the reputation of someone else, or for any reason actually, and the problem is, it’s rampant in the office and encountered pretty much every minute of every day, and… if one doesn’t participate, one becomes a target themself. It is very difficult to find kind, ethical people who won’t participate in the gossip, thankfully, there are some, and people who share similar traits tend to gather together, but it’s so annoying to have to deal with this every day. I don’t talk bad about people, I don’t like to listen to others do it, and don’t seek out or feel any satisfaction at others misfortune nor attempt to get ‘revenge’ on anyone. I say this not to showcase myself or try to say that I’m any better than anyone else, or more ethical, as I am not, I am just me, good and bad, as all human beings are, no more or less than any of the millions on this planet, but to point out that it’s a huge problem navigating in a gossip-fueled environment. It’s hard to communicate with people in a straightforward, honest way, when they are pre-programmed to strategize, maneuver, etc. so how is one to be effective in their job and get things done if they won’t play the game? When I don’t like that type of behavior, when I won’t do it, when I want to remain true to my values, yet don’t want to be targeted myself? lol, still looking for answers. (remember that Charles Schultz ‘Peanuts’ cartoon where Lucy had a little booth with ‘help – 5 cents’ or something written on the sign by it?) I always thought that would be a good idea, if we could just walk down the street and find someone with all the answers for 5 cents. Please feel free to offer me your 2 cents worth. thx.
Many years ago I felt good gossip concerned someone I already didn’t like. Hearing rumor(s) about people I didn’t dislike or actual friends of mine left me either highly skeptical of the rumor or downright annoyed/disgusted/angry at those enjoying/spreading the rumor. Over time I came to see gossip as pure poison no matter the source. But that took a long while.
Also, I’ve always heard the phrase about misery as ‘misery loves company.’
Yes, I am sorry to say that my mind has become infected…
“I imagine at first glance ‘education’ is the key. But such an idea presumes (and is predicated upon) a ‘willingness’ to receive such an education. Which willingness may or may not even be present owing to the original problem at hand, i.e. ‘conditioning’ via examples of ‘others’.”
I think education is the key. Yes, people are conditioned, but more basic to any conditioning is their innate positive feelings toward others and life in general.
Yes, I’m afraid that my mind has indeed become infected. Thanks for this quoted passage by Don Migel Ruiz. Very wise.
Time to get to work applying some disinfectant.
Thanks for sharing this link justmeteehee. I’ve been looking more into Rick Hanson and I can see that he does great work. I plan on reading his most noted book “Buddha’s Brain….”.
Very fine post Dio. I couldn’t agree more that government is a manifestation (creation) of the electorate, and that freedom comes with much responsibility. Sadly, most Americans don’t get this, so they are soon going to lose their freedom. I am convinced of this. I think the point of no return has been crossed. Again….sadly.
You state or quote: “Aberration is caused by what is done to the individual, not what the individual does, plus his self determination about what has been done to him. In my words: All of our problems are due to what our parents did to us or for us that they should not of done to us or for us. And what our parents did not do to us or for us that they should of done to us or for us. All of our problems are rooted in failed parenting. We are all only as good as we have been bred and brought up.”
I believe Cognitive Behavioral Therapy’s approach is more efficacious: It’s not what happens to us that matters – it is how we react to what happens to us that is important. Many a person with the most rotten parents imaginable and many brought up in horrendous circumstances have risen to great heights – or at least are happy, functioning adults. Their parents are viewed as great teachers of what not to do.
gossip is not a word that sounds really heave or really negative to me…
but the use of the word black in a negative way sounds really negative and heavy
and contradictive to me…—people call negative/destructive magick
black magic–why? WHY? black people still suffer and struggle with negativitiy and
racism etc. because some white people are against black people , because they have a
black/dark coloured skin— i don t agree to use the word black in a negative sense or whatever and people should STOP calling negative/destructive things(like bad magic)black….you even have a picture of a black woman! & you still talk about ‘black’ magic…have you ever said to her – black magic black magic black magic!how would she feel if you really said to her BLACK(magic) is negative & destructive! should i care about the gossip and discrimination and demonisation of the word black??? no- but you see Mother Kali is black…so what should i do -say well you are Mother Kali but al blackness is wrong en bad and destructive,,you black people black magic black clothes black books black races ….in that case you should remove the picture of the black woman on you profile–or tell me the real reason why black is negative ?
Nice thread Marty. Some interesting posts. It reminds me of the old saying (the sanitized version) “opinions are like ‘belly buttons’ everyone has one.
And being the ChristianScientology voice on this blog and mentioning belly buttons, presumably Adam did not have one (neither did Eve). So that is where we have to go to resolve this particular virus. God had every intention of giving Adam his heart’s desire, and it was only after the devil had bad mouthed God that Adam choose autonomy from God. If you remember he became fearful and hid himself. This was the beginning of B.P.C. (by pass charge) and it’s been getting more and more ever since.
So what is the answer? – fight, flight or freeze does not work, but acknowledging the B.P.C. does. “An acknowledgment ends a communication”. Most people do not want to be either agreed or disagreed with, but much more want to be heard, and heard in such a way that they feel understood and if that understanding comes from a place of love it will sort out gossiping. The Bible has an interesting verse apropos this situation “Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable–if anything is excellent or praiseworthy–think about such things.” Philippians 4:8.
Love with understanding
Exactly….looks at L. Ron Jr. (Nibs)
He was able to dissociate with how he was raised and what he was taught by his lunatic father.
Even David Miscavige was able to lead a successful life after being raised by a ‘horrible’ man (to be read with heavy sarcasm).
It works both ways……parents can be horrible and the kids turn out ok or decent parents can have horrible children.
If it were any other way, then no one would be able to rise above their circumstances. I think history is full of examples of people overcoming terrible parents and vice versa.
The seed of gossip can only take root and bear fruit in fertile ground.
“Buddha’s Brain” by Rick Hanson is the second book on Mark’s recommended reading. Click on the horizontal menu at the top of this blog.
Sorry — but with this logic, I should cut off my left hand … since as a left handed person I’ve had a tough time my whole life. Teachers didn’t know how to deal with left handed children. When I went to school. There is a great deal NOT made for left handed people until more recently.
AND language is RIFE with slurs on left handedness. Lunatic. Gauche. to name a couple.
And once upon a time, children were forced to write with their right hand. I had an uncle who “allowed” me to remain left-handed as long as I held a pen/pencil the same as right handed person. Which created lots of smudges.
Witches were burned at the stake – in part because they were left-handed.
Islam considers backbiting the equivalent of eating the flesh of one’s dead brother. According to Muslims, backbiting harms its victims without offering them any chance of defense, just as dead people cannot defend against their flesh being eaten.
Judaism considers gossip spoken without a constructive purpose (known in Hebrew as an evil tongue, lashon hara) as a sin. Speaking negatively about people, counts as sinful, as it demeans the dignity of man.
The Epistle to the Romans associates gossips (“backbiters”) with a list of sins including sexual immorality and with murder:
28: And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29: Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30: Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31: Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: (Sociopaths).
32: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. (Romans 1:28-32)
While gossip and blackmail both involve the disclosure of unflattering information, the blackmailer is arguably ethically superior to the gossip.
From one social study:
Block writes, “In a sense, the gossip is much worse than the blackmailer, for the blackmailer has given the blackmailed a chance to silence him. The gossip exposes the secret without warning.” The victim of a blackmailer is thus offered choices denied to the subject of gossip, such as deciding if the exposure of his or her secret is worth the cost the blackmailer demands. Moreover, in refusing a blackmailer’s offer one is in no worse a position than with the gossip. Adds Block, “It is indeed difficult, then, to account for the vilification suffered by the blackmailer, at least compared to the gossip, who is usually dismissed with slight contempt and smugness.”
Pope Francis refers to gossip as a killer “terrorism” and labeled it a “disease” that could destroy “in cold blood.” “It’s the sickness of cowardly people who, not having the courage to speak directly, talk behind people’s backs,”
In Scientology, a person undermining you with gossip is considered to be parked in a lower condition. Enemy. Which means, it is on them, not the target of the gossip:
“You can therefore know your enemies by those who seek to knock out any part of your
(a) Power (b) Authority (c) Personnel (d) Wealth (e) Property.”
And Sun Tzu said that if you know your enemies, as you know yourself,you are not really in peril:
It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.
If this is true, then a menacing particle working to knock out your authority through diminishing your reputation, would only be effective by remaining in the shadows and keeping the target in a “not know” about the source of the gossip. Or, keep the target in “not know” about some aspect of the enemy condition. For instance, person gossiping is in bed with hidden enemies of the target. Either way, the intent and purpose is malicious and backed by ill will. And denotes conspiracies, and cowardice. As the word “gossip” itself , stems from women gathered in the birth chamber, and the talk they exchanged in an era when women were given no voice in social matters.
I looked at the link you gave right under the first half dozen paragraphs or so of your post but couldn’t find anything there that was related to them. You may have accidentally posted the wrong link, but in any case, wherever you found those paragraphs, they are direct quotes from the Wikipedia article on “Gossip, ” which is a good article for this thread. For anybody interested, here’s the link:
Dogs don’t gossip. Dogs pick up on human energy and see fear and anxiety as weak energy. Dogs do not listen to weak energy and they do not listen to followers. Dogs are not a “every man for himself” species. You do not find gossip in any symbiotic species. Except mankind. When simple nature is more socially evolved than some particles mankind, you begin to see the beauty in nature and it’s lessons in survival.
Unlike sociopaths, dogs also feel shame and remorse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiswC-GKs4c
Most people do not want to be either agreed or disagreed with, but much more want to be heard, and heard in such a way that they feel understood and if that understanding comes from a place of love it will sort out gossiping.
End of quote:
I will reword that a bit:
Most people do not want to be either agreed or disagreed with, but much more want to be heard, and heard in such a way that they feel understood and if that understanding comes from a place of love it, if done enough, over a sufficient period of time, a person will go clear.
Re: This part of what you said:
Most people do not want to be either agreed or disagreed with, but much more want to be heard, and heard in such a way that they feel understood and if that understanding comes from a place of love….
Is the reason why auditing, when done right, works.
(And keep in mind that only a very small fraction of the data, the technology, the philosophy in scientology is correct.)
When auditing is done right, it is the best form of spiritual healing known to date.
Auditing (when done right, by a competent auditor) is the only formal human process known, where a person, can speak his truth, (and is the centre of attention) in the most safe space that can be made. The ultimate catharsis.
The true auditing space, is a space where a person can exhaust all his troubles, all what has been done to him, all that he has done, etc.. in safety or at least relative safety.
And when he exhausts all that is evil (all that which is not in alignment with love and truth/universal law) in him, he will go clear. Failure is feedback from the universe that something was not in alignment with universal law.
The only stuff that gets stuck in the mind and spirit, or the only stuff that does damage to the mind and spirit, (or the only stuff that is aberrating to the body, mind and spirit) ) is all that stuff that is not truth and love, and all the stuff that is not in alignment with universal law.
All that is in violation of universal law (commonly known as God’s laws, or God’s plan) is aberrating.
Only truth is clearing. Only that stuff and activity, that is,…. which is in alignment with universal law is clearing.
Only the truth will set us free.
Seek the truth in all things and the truth will set you free from bondage.
If a person is allowed to speak enough truth, to a safe terminal, he will eventually go clear.
That is the process of good auditing.
But keep this in mind> “clear” (a true state of clear) is synonymous with the kingdom of heaven (or kingdom of God).
And Jesus said: no one enters the kingdom of God, except through me.
My hypothesis is that is why there are no true clears in scientology.
That is because scientology is missing the Jesus factor.
Instead, scientology is embedded with the Allister Crowley factor, as well as the LRH factor.
And this is why scientology is in the condition it is in, with the disreputable reputation it has.
The most disreputable reputation on earth in all of the history of the earth.
Hanson is a wonderful voice of sense and reason. I pick up Buddha’s Brain often.
Do you remember the Welcome to the Sea Org pack, what one had to do in the beginning of joining the Sea Org, here it is:
Click to access scientology-wso-pack-1990.pdf
The very last tape transcript is “It’s A PRO World”.
And what is that lecture about, why it’s about getting agreement thru Public Relations, or getting agreement. It is not about getting truth, but about getting agreement to get people to agree with scientology and hubbard.
I like the four agreements Marty references, How ironic Hubbard twisted it. laughter.
I wish my parents did the same.
I came across this daily (thought for the day) type blog some time ago and I felt yesterday’s reading would resonate with all spiritual seekers.
It is quite free to receive these inspiring pieces on a daily basis, enjoy!
July 19, 2016
Your Gem for Today …
Ego Usurping the Search for Enlightenment
After years of suffering and searching, you may come upon non-duality or enlightenment teachings that are pointing to the way out of suffering and searching. A burning for truth arises in you and takes hold. You know that, whatever is pulling you in the direction of enlightenment is a force so strong, it must be followed. Most spiritual seekers do not feel as though they have a choice. There is a sense of being drawn towards an awakening.
Trust the force that is pulling you towards awakening. But notice the ways in which the ego likes to usurp that force for its own gains. The egoic drive can usurp the spiritual search and turn it into an addiction to the idea of future enlightenment.
You become like a dog chasing his own tail. You constantly think about and discuss enlightenment, comparing one teaching to another, one idea to another, one teacher to another. If this is happening, you can bet that you have created a new story of self out of the search for enlightenment.
Do not make that into a problem. Simply notice when the mind is lost in thinking about enlightenment and how to get there. When a simple, non-resistant openness arises within you to the sights, sounds, feelings, thoughts, and situations of the present moment, enlightenment is possible. All else is ego.
~ From: Reflections of the One Life, by Scott Kiloby http://www.kiloby.comInquiries: firstname.lastname@example.org
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“That is because Scientology is missing the Jesus factor”. Well said, and the Jesus factor is the “God factor” and the God factor is LOVE.
I hear in my mind’s (ear) the words of L Ron Hubbard “I developed Scientology because of my love of understanding”. Unfortunately he then chose to put “love in the waste paper basket” on the grounds that it was INDEFINABLE and he had decided that a “science of mind” must be approached as an engineer which necessitated every word being defined.
It is interesting he didn’t say “I developed Scientology because of my affinity for understanding”. Having “an affinity” for understanding is not good enough, for to have a closeness for something can never take the place of being one with it.
Thanks Deo for your reply.
You wrote that Hubbard “chose to put ‘love in the waste paper basket’ on the grounds that it was INDEFINABLE and he had decided that a ‘science of mind’ must be approached as an engineer, which necessitated every word being defined.”
I think you have misduplicated what was actually said by Hubbard about love. The reason he chose – at times – to use the word “affinity” instead of “love” is explained in the chapter on Affinity in *Science of Survival*, as follows:
“In view of the fact that the word ‘love’ has at least two outstanding meanings in the English language, a misunderstanding could result if it were employed to represent this factor in theta.
“’Affinity’ is a broad term and means simply a sympathy of feeling, an affection, the feeling of one person for another, as we use it in Dianetics. Affinity, in the theta sense, Dianetically, might be compared to cohesion and adhesion in the physical universe, as applied to energy. There are degrees of affinity, according to our definition, as represented by the tone scale. These range from a feeling of well being along all the dynamics down the various stages of emotion to severance of feeling from any and all of the dynamics. Affinity broadly includes emotion.”
In that same chapter, he actually uses the word “love” in each the different descriptions of affinity in relation to the various tone levels. For example:
“At the top of the scale around tone four, the individual experiences love, strong and outgoing; he experiences friendliness, this is an extroversion of affinity…”
Note that even someone like yourself who is mostly positive about Scientology can misunderstand parts of it – and then it gets repeated until it eventually becomes “true.” It’s an interesting phenomenon.
Long time no communication, it’s good to hear from you.
What I quoted to Deo is as near as I can get it to verbatim. I am referring to a tape which I am guessing is contained in the “study course” material. He says “I am putting the word love in the waste paper basket along with all the pulp novels written on that subject, and instead of the word love we are going to use the word affinity a word we can define. AFFINITY – the consideration of distance”. On this particular tape LRH is making it clear he does not think much of love as popularly understood.
I don’t doubt he has had much more to say in his written work but in my experience peoples’ spoken word and their written word are not necessarily one and the same thing. We usually put more thought into the written word, hence the saying “One should engage their brain before opening their mouth”.
Axiom 23 states “The static has the capability of total knowingness”. Total knowingness would consist of total ARC.
Axiom 24 states “Total ARC would bring about the vanishment of all mechanical conditions of existence”
Axiom 25 – Affinity is a scale of attitudes which fall away from the co-existence of static, though the interposition of distance and energy, to create identity down to close proximity but mystery.
You will notice the word LOVE does not appear in these axioms. The fact is the highest Scientology will ever reach is IDENTITY, which always involves AFFINITY. Affinity ceases to exist at “co-existence of static” and is outside the scope of Scientology, and in Scientology can only be postulated as a theoretical possibility.
A THETAN is an IDENTITY and as such is incapable of experiencing anything higher than affinity. This is not a put down but a simple fact. To rise higher than the SOUL level it is necessary to be open to THE SPIRIT and spirit is God, and “God is love”.
In terms of “human wisdom” that was the wisest thing LRH could do with LOVE, to put it in the waste paper basket, because it would stop the subject being developed if love was left in the computation.
Scientology takes man to the every edge of his ability to understand, and that is why it is such a let-down for many folk. It can never deliver what everyone craves – to be loved UNCONDITIONALLY.
I gave my all to Scientology. I would have joined the Sea Org. like a shot, but I was deemed to be P.T.S. Little did I know at the time it was Scientology that I was P.T.S. to, so while the Org. was assigning me ENEMY in fact I was in POWER and consequently I have never DISCONNECTED.
Of course I can never again be ‘just’ a Scientologist, it would be like “putting new wine into old wine skins” Mark 2:22, for now I both love and understand Scientologists.
As you know Maraldi I have a great admiration for LRH but I am not blinded to the fact that he was a human being and as such was subject to the same plight that every human being is subject to – the choice to be autonomous to our creator, and as a result to buy into the illusion of SIN SICKNESS and DEATH.
You might find this site helpful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Four_Loves and particularly the fourth love C S Lewis mentions.
Agape—unconditional ‘God’ love
Charity (agápē, Greek: ἀγάπη) is the love that serves regardless of changing circumstances. Lewis recognizes this one as the greatest of the four loves, and sees it as a specifically Christian virtue to achieve. The chapter on the subject focuses on the need to subordinate the other three natural loves—as Lewis puts it, “The natural loves are not self-sufficient”—to the love of God, who is full of charitable love, to prevent what he termed their ‘demonic’ self-aggrandizement. Lewis did not actually use the word agape although later commentators did
Lots of love with understanding
Good to hear from you too, my friend. 🙂
You wrote: “He says ‘I am putting the word love in the waste paper basket along with all the pulp novels written on that subject, and instead of the word love we are going to use the word affinity a word we can define.’ On this particular tape LRH is making it clear he does not think much of love as popularly understood.”
Well then, even from your own recall, he says he’s throwing out the WORD “love.” He doesn’t say he’s throwing love itself “in the waste paper basket.” And the only reason he’s throwing out the word is that its meaning “as popularly understood” is not the kind of love he was talking about.
Actually, I got that he was talking about the same thing you are referring to – unconditional love. The Axiom you quoted is one reference for that, as it indicates that at the top of the Affinity scale is “co-existence of static” – and unconditional love is generally thought of as a feeling of oneness with others. Also per LRH, “THE EIGHTH DYNAMIC—is the urge toward existence as Infinity. This is also identified as the Supreme Being.” (from FOT)
But I would have to agree with you that LRH as a person evidently did not aspire to that state and I don’t think anything in scientology tech directly aims for it, either.
I love this quote by Don Miguel Ruiz
“Don’t take anything personal”
Hello dear one
People often accuse me of “splitting hairs” and it seems to me this is a classic. Differentiating between the word LOVE and love itself got me thinking because “THE WORD IS LOVE”.
It is impossible to talk about unconditional love for the simple reason it starts where communication ceases. “Co-existence of static” is only a theoretical idea in Scientology and by its own admittance is UNOBTAINABLE. In this MEST universe it is impossible to be one with another for it would violate the fact that “two objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time, if that ever did happen it would cause the vanishment of the ego – a state unknown in Scientology. Equally THE EIGHTH DYNAMIC is an “urge towards” existence as infinity, not the realisation that is what you are.
At least we agree that although we may aspire to the state of unconditional love it remains out of reach to all human beings. It is like INFINITY, you can approach it, but there is always another step. It is the action of striving for it that keeps it out of reach.
L.R.H. reminds me of Jack Nicholson in “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” when he says “Well I tried dammit didn’t I”.
To me Scientology is the final step at attempting to figure out how this universe works. I don’t think L.R.H. understood “Quantum Physics” he did understand Albert Einstein but then Einstein admitted he did not understand the “strangeness of quantum mechanics”.
Tom Campbell does a good job of explaining it but even he, it seems to me, fails to make the final connection. The Bible opens with “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth”. Could it be that to know God is to know how creation comes about, and we can finally answer the question “What is REALITY”.
Lots of love always with understanding
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