Going Clear Movie, Part 1

Posted on July 16, 2017 by Mark C. Rathbun | 22 Comments

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22 responses to “Going Clear Movie, Part 1”

remoteviewed | July 16, 2017 at 1:33 pm |

Here’s Julian Assange’s response to Deep State “Documentarian” (propagandist) Alex Gibney for “We Steal Secrets”:

https://wikileaks.org/IMG/html/gibney-transcript.html

This pretty much says it all about Gibney’s “accuracy” and “objectivity”.

Combine that with Lawrence Wright’s carelessness of facts in what they call “non-fiction”:

http://www.banditobooks.com/essay/content/2.php

Gives us the “documentary” from hell.

Silver lining is that both Gibney and Wright’s careers have become moribund because of their exaggerations and innuendo.
Merrell Vannier | July 16, 2017 at 10:08 pm |

Excellent post, Remote. Thanks for the links. Very interesting. Both Wright & Gibney appear to be mouthpieces for the deep state. Makes me wonder whether their Scientology hit pieces were sponsored by the Intel Community.
marildi | July 16, 2017 at 11:38 pm |

Wow, RV, that Bandito Books article is pretty thought-provoking. A quote from it:

“That we are bombarded on all media fronts by deep-state-sponsored disinformation specialists like Lawrence Wright has long been an open secret. (Make no mistake: I am asserting that Wright is an ex officio deep state asset.) But his winning of the 2007 Pulitzer Prize for Literary Nonfiction is direct evidence that the layers of cooption rise to the very top of the elite cultural hierarchy. (Wright’s book and The 9/11 Report were both nominated for the almost-as-prestigious National Book Award.)” http://www.banditobooks.com/essay/content/2.php
marildi | July 17, 2017 at 12:37 am |

A quote from the other link, an annotated transcript of Alex Gibney’s film “We Steal Secrets: The Story of Wikileaks”:

“Narration by Alex Gibney:
“‘In this environment of expanding secrecy, Assange went fishing for secrets to publish. To bait whistleblowers, he published a list of the most wanted leaks.’”

“Note: Gibney’s choice of words, ‘Fishing,’ ‘Bait’, implies solicitation.

“Throughout the film, Gibney propagates the idea Assange had been ‘fishing’ for the leaks or that Manning had been ‘persuaded’ to leak. This is factually incorrect but also buys into the dangerous proposition that journalists and publishers can be conspirators by virtue of their interaction with confidential sources. The US government is attempting to argue that any news organization that deals with confidential sources can be put into prison for engaging in ‘conspiracy’.”

“Gibney makes a careless error that shows poor fact-checking. WikiLeaks makes clear on its website that, like ‘other media outlets conducting investigative journalism, we accept (but do not solicit) anonymous sources of information’.”

https://wikileaks.org/IMG/html/gibney-transcript.html
Chris Mann | July 17, 2017 at 2:28 am |

We Steal Secrets was straight propaganda. I saw it before Going Clear and that was my impression.

I’ll have to watch it again. I thought you said the Church doesn’t spy on people, or “doesn’t do that”.
Boudin | July 17, 2017 at 6:57 am |

Much like Scientology and Going Clear, Assange denounced We Steal Secrets before he ever saw it. His transcript is from an incomplete and unreleased version of the film. Many, but not all, of his criticisms have been addressed and debunked.
The Oracle | July 17, 2017 at 1:48 pm |

Yes, omitted time flows through all of the tabloid-television interviews. People reaching back decades to describe something that happened and they never mention the incident they are talking about is decades past. Again, small fragments of a whole are cherry picked out to serve up. And there is a purpose behind that and this is exactly the kind of misinformation and misleading theater I am talking about. And these theaters are never presented as close conspiracies, which is exactly what they are.
remoteviewed | July 17, 2017 at 1:51 pm |

I saw the film and the transcript is accurate. You seem to like to use this “debunked” but give no evidence of actual debunking. Saying it does not make it so.
The Oracle | July 17, 2017 at 1:52 pm |

Nobody here implies anyone should not speak up about abuse. But if you are, to be honest about it. Misinforming people is also suppressing the truth.
Richard | July 17, 2017 at 2:18 pm |

Somehow I inadvertently ended up on Ken Wilber’s Integral Theory email list. Just as a reminder that there a bright spots in life and other things to think about, here’s a bit from one of the emails.

The Good, the Beautiful, and the True

Beautiful – Art, Self, Aesthetics (1st-person, Buddha)
Good – Morals, Culture, Ethics (2nd-person, Sangha)
True – Science, Nature, Logic (3rd-person, Dharma)

“Ken often refers to these irreducible dimensions of experience as ‘The Big Three’ of I, We, and It.”

I don’t participate in Integral Life. Scientology was enough of a “philosophical practice” for me for now and I’m happy with overviews of other practices – lol.
The Oracle | July 17, 2017 at 3:54 pm |

Tony Ortega in his alter ising, false reporting, misleading usual:

Today’s tweet.

Tony Ortega‏Verified account @TonyOrtega94 Jul 16
Warrior Marty says everything in ‘Going Clear’ happened too long ago.

If you just watched the above video, Marty never said anything about anything happening “Too long ago”. He mentioned specific times things did occur. He mentioned time is left out.

It is Tony Ortega, who says things “happened too long ago”. And parks this under Marty Rathbun. A lie. A blatant lie. And he churns like this on a constant.

And he has people that appreciate being lied to, and appreciate the fact that he lies to others.

Reply 10 Retweet 19 Like 91

And in the tweet, he implies he has busted Marty lying!

” Sara Goldberg’s story was just the year before it came out. Whoops.”

While it is actually him, who is lying!

Lying. Gaslighting. Mis informing. Inventing enemies. Creating disturbance. Altering facts. Finger pointing and unjustly accusing someone else. Injustice. Bullying on social media. The poster boy for sociopathy.
The Oracle | July 17, 2017 at 3:56 pm |

Sociopathy: A mental health disorder characterized by a disregard for other people.
The Oracle | July 17, 2017 at 4:01 pm |

Thank you for causing good feelings. I am very curious about these views.
remoteviewed | July 17, 2017 at 8:25 pm |

Ironically the time period when the Church did the most spying on its perceived enemies was when Rinder was in charge of OSA which is kind of like Gottlieb leaving the CIA and complaining about the excesses of Mk Ultra.

To paraphrase Marty they bring up incidents that occurred or in many cases alleged to have occurred in the past and make them seem as if they are occurring contemporaneously in the present.

This is what is called an outpoint known as “dropped out time”.
remoteviewed | July 17, 2017 at 8:38 pm |

Gibney unlike Assange who releases the raw intel regurgitates it by adding his own interpretation or spin to it.

He did this with Taxi to the Dark Side which eclipsed a better and more accurate account entitled the Torture Papers because it won an Academy Award.

Much like Wright’s book the Looming Tower (of BS) won the Pulitzer Prize over two well documented accounts entitled Religion Incorporated and Ghost Wars.
marildi | July 18, 2017 at 3:45 am |

Thanks for your input. Thanks for the reminder of what LRH said about the price of freedom:

“Constant and continual alertness is the price of freedom. Constant willingness to fight back is the price of freedom. There is no other price, actually.” (The Genus of Dianetics and Scientology, 31 December 1960, Human Mind Congress)
The Oracle | July 18, 2017 at 4:25 am |

“Seven years ago, the people I work for were smart enough to start Backpage.com, a competitor to Craigslist,” the Voice’s Tony Ortega, who authored a number of stories criticizing concerns over sex trafficking on American shores as nothing more than “mass paranoia,” wrote in July. “What happens when two adults find each other through Backpage.com? I couldn’t tell you … [It] exists solely so that people can freely express themselves—sometimes in ways that make other people uncomfortable. We’re First Amendment extremists that way. Always have been.” Tony Ortega

http://www.thedailybeast.com/village-voice-medias-backpage-attacked-by-clergy-over-sex-trafficking

“I helped turn a weekly newspaper with a Web site into a digital enterprise.”
Tony Ortega

https://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/at-village-voice-editor-and-music-editor-depart-and-weekly-will-have-a-new-address/

Tony, It’s your criminal past catching up with you that is the main event these days. I think it’s time for you to lawyer up. Just saying.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/what-about-backpages-employees/2017/07/14/66cfeda0-6817-11e7-94ab-5b1f0ff459df_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.195967e57642
Brian | July 18, 2017 at 8:00 am |

“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves”

Carl Jung
sweetknees125 | July 19, 2017 at 5:53 pm |

Sorry did have time to listen to the video until now.. It’s like you read my mind. I was thinking about this. Some people just want to be left alone and live their life and move on. The hysteria true.
Brian | July 21, 2017 at 9:13 am |

A true teaching, one that frees a person from dogma and group think, supports and nurtures the individual’s unique expression of truth and creates a space for that expression.

The down side of some exoteric religions, that enforce regimented behavior, is that they do not help develop the individual expression of truth unique to each soul.

Each individual is a unique expression of some individual expression of some principle.

True freedom is not enforced by threat of punishment. That is old school religion.
Joe | October 19, 2017 at 8:58 am |

Hi Marty,

Thanks for the videos. I too, watch and ask “Didn’t any of these people get one gain out of Scientology Technology”?

All with a minimum of 20 years.
And they are going to blame Scientology!!
Wow. What a wrong why.

What were they doing with the cans in their hands?
What did they say at the examiner?

What I don’t see in either COS or these attackers is ARC.
It mostly has been my basic nature since L11 and L12…
Along KRC and you have all the answers of the universe.

You can get a group of 10 Scientologists and ask “Has Scientology saved your life?” Six including me will raise their hands.

Sadly, Leah and the group do not differentiate between an organization and the technology.

Thanks for a bit of sanity!!
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