Independence Day 2012

We send you our best wishes and we hope that you are enjoying the company of family and friends on America’s Independence Day.

As most of you know the annual Indies (Independent Scientologists) Day celebration is this coming Saturday and Sunday in Minnesota.  Stayed tuned here over the next few days for Independence news that will herald a trend that ushers in the end of the tyranny Indies have made such great sacrifices to effectuate.  While they certainly won’t grab the media attention that Miscavige’s latest public relations coup has, Katies Holmes Breaks Miscavige Shackles, the long-term effects of coming events will do more to loosen the tyrant’s grip on the free practice of Scientology than just about any events to date.

Those attending the Indies Day celebration will witness and participate in history making.  Remember, as you watch and participate, that these events were made possible by all you have done to date.  Keep in mind also that it will require unity of purpose and vigilance to overcome the reciprocal the tyranny has already begun to mount in response to the developments to which I allude.

I leave you with a quote from the forgotten US founding father, Thomas Paine, the most important US founder in my opinion – also in the opinion of 2nd US President John Adams by the way.   It is something that all Indies, Americans and world citizens should take to heart in these times:

These are the times that try men’s souls.  The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.  Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.  What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value.  Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM  should not be highly rated. 

160 responses to “Independence Day 2012

  1. Welcome to Minnesota! It looks like you’ll get some rain part of the weekend, but at least it won’t be hot and humid the way it’s been.

  2. Lisa Hamilton

    Happy Independence Day! Have a great and productive weekend together!! Wish we were there!

    Love, Lisa and Mark

  3. TO: Independent Scientologiest of the World
    CC: DSA Munich Org
    CC: Verfassungsschutz Germany
    from: Vasile Silaghi, Germany

    I, Vasile Silaghi (Germany, by Munich) hereby declare my independence from the Church of Scientology.
    I consider myself not anymore a member of this Organisation.

    All the reason for my decision, you can find in the E-Mail written by Debbie Cook.

    I’ve just saw and read much to many reports from longtime, veteran, highest qualified, trained and supportive good people, which were thrown under the bus and wasted by the current management lead by David Miscavidge. Most of the time because they’ve tried to exercise their inalienable and God given rights for self-determinism and to think and talk freely. All those Names you can find on Marty´s and Steve Halls Blog.

    Furthermore, I want to let you know, I do not leave the faith, the applied religion philosophy of Scientology and will and I´m continuing on my spiritual journey.
    I am and will remain a Scientologist, an independent Scientologiest, and will use the wisdom for myself and those who ask for it.

    My Philosophy, by L. Ron Hubbard:
    ”For I know no man who has any monopoly upon the wisdom of this universe. It belongs to those who can use it to help themselves and others.“

    Than my purpose is also to help with that:
    1. L. Ron Hubbard’s legacy shall be resurrected
    2. L. Ron Hubbard’s family shall be vindicated, including all belongings given back
    3. David Miscavige and minions shall be investigated and brought to justice for all the reported crimes
    4. CoS management structure shall be reinstall as intended and designed by LRH:

    And finally in my opinion, if the Church would be in the hands of some very high trained, experienced and practicing veteran auditors with their hearts on the right place and not some bully, self-appointed, power and money craving man, like right now, the Church would accomplish just that for what it was intended.

    I´m OUT and I am HAPPY.

    Thank´s for listening. Goodbye!
    And Happy Independence Day 2012!

    (aka:: flytrike)

    @ Thoughtful, there is some work for you, would you please put this onto the Indie 500 list:
    ”Vasile Silaghi (Germany), Scn. since 1991, Munich Org staff 2,5 years, Book One and Class IV Auditor, ARC SW completion, IAS Sponsor.
    I was done with the CoS after the 99the LRH Birthday event in march 2010, choosing to remain dedicated to LRHs Standard Tech. Left the CofS also because in my opinion with the current management, they are not using the philosophy to help and free beings but to control and manipulate people.”

  4. I’m doing an extra solo session today, and the FNs will all be for you Yanks … hmmm … better say ‘… for all you Americans,’ in case there are some Southeners here!

  5. Happy 4th of July. Have a great celebration in Minnesota. Hundred may physically be there but tens of thousands will be there in spirit. The ranks of the Independents continue to swell. Scientology, its theory and practice, will survive. DM should never have hit marty’s friend. Interesting how that last straw has led us to this point. A lot of good folks are standing tall.

  6. I am so jealous. I wanted to come to the celebration but wasn’t able to this time. But you can bet I’ll be tuned in! Happy Independence Day to all!

  7. Hark! Is that the distant sound of a victory roll I hear?

    I was watching a documentary about Bomber Command last night. It was very sobering. Young men (18 – 22 mostly) going out night after night knowing they only had about a 80% chance of coming back alive on any given night, and a 50% chance of surviving over the duration of the campaign (years 1942 – 1945). The Halifax and Lancaster bombers they flew were the air equivalent of Ford Transits; slow, easy to spot and perilous. They were sitting ducks for the Luftwaffe and they knew it. They also knew they didn’t have the “glamour” of Fighter Command who saved Britain from certain German invasion in 1940. There would be no ticker tape parades for them or lofty speeches from Prime Ministers. Indeed after the war they were more or less shunned and ignored by the good and the great until this very year when finally there has been a memorial erected for them in Green Park this week (hence the timing of the docu.).

    We don’t have to literally put our lives on the line – usually, and when I feel like patting myself on the back for leaving the cult and confronting its psychosis head on it’s a useful reminder of what real courage is, and what sacrifices others have made like this.

    Not to say that those who have taken the step despite great personal danger (such as losing family members) is not heroic in its own right though. The fight against evil takes many forms, and this is just another battle which seems mercifully to be drawing to a close.

    Happy Independence Day to y’all. (Did you know that 26% of Americans don’t know what they are celebrating Independence from?)

  8. FCDC Class of 74

    A wonderful Independence Day and subsequent week end to all Indies. I unfortunately cannot attend but know that I stand in reserve to any action necessary for the freedom of our cause. I am spending this day with children and grand children and like a reservist I await the call. Bill Indie 335

  9. Good work Marty!

    Thanks for being so free speaking in public!

    Inadvertently, the apostate Scientologists (a false label) are doing more good for Scientology’s slowly changing image.

    Even though the long known and shared bad news is new news to the public, it’s all good long range.

    Sort of a slow motion 3rd dynamic group engram being run out.

  10. Wonderful Vasile!

  11. Have a great Indie get-together! I certainly will be thinking of you all and of all who carry the torch, in whatever way they can, of freedom. I know the value and greatly appreciate being able to contribute to its future.

  12. Happy Independece Day everybody. I will not be there for obvious reasons, but I wish a year of freedom to all independents, as well as everybody else.

    Speaking of everybody else, I am into chapter 15 of the book where you write about the goodness of people. As I was reading it, I was reminded of an incident that happened to me. In one of my travels I stopped at an inn only to find out it was a biker’s hangout.

    I was sitting at the bar when in walks this big burly biker. He looked ANGRY. He sat next to me and everybody cowered. I asked him in a concerned voice: “are you okay?”

    To my surprise, he started crying. He just came from the dentist and was in terrible pain. I conversed with him for a while and he got better. As I was eating my food some guy started talking derogatorily about blacks. To my surprise, the bar man asked him to leave, and as he was leaving he was ridiculed by the crowd (including myself).

    I think you are absolutely right. Kindness can be found everywhere, not only in Scientology.

  13. Welcome Vasile. Good job! Happy Independence Day!

  14. martyrathbun09

    Apostate Scientologist is an impossibility. An apostate by definition leaves his religion and attacks it.

  15. eileenclark101

    Wish I could be there this year, sounds like it will be productive as well as lots of fun. Have a great time everyone!! Looking forward to hearing the news. Thanks Marty, et al for that has been done this past year that is cause for such celebration.

  16. martyrathbun09

    Welcome Vasile!

  17. Congratulations to y’all on your Independence Day in the USA.
    There is nothing more dangerous than a patriotic Amercian when their collective freedom is threatened, history says so.
    Greetings from downunder.

  18. Roger Thought (LO)

    Grüss Gott Vasile !

    Es freut mich !

    Bitte schreibe es noch auf deutsch und post es bei Felicitas !

  19. Richard Royce

    Bravo Vasile! Here is some sinergy. Just yesterday I was thinking out of the clear blue, “What ever happened to my boyhood friend Alex Silaghi” and today your last name appears!

  20. Great post, Vasile. Thanks for coming out with your real name and standing up to be counted as an independent Scientologist!

  21. Independent Scientologist

    Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend this year’s celebration because of some unavoidable business travel, but I will eagerly await the updates appearing on this blog!

    I count myself incredibly lucky to understand what a precious gift Scientology is, and what a golden opportunity we have right here right now to avail ourselves of the tech. How long will that opportunity last? I don’t know. That’s why I am a dedicated every-day solo auditor.

    Freedom – it’s a precious gift!

    – Ron Matlock

  22. Awesome Vasile!

  23. Thank you for acknowledging the sacrifices we have all made in greater or lesser degrees, it’s been well worth it (hind sight being 20/20) and I wouldn’t change it for the world as we’re back on the Bridge which would have never happened in the current RCS (if not just for affordability alone, but we all know about the other issues). Getting standard auditing outside of the toxic RCS environment is like the difference of sailing in smooth waters vs stormy ones, so much progress is being made. We’re sorry we cannot attend due to other commitments but wish you all a very very happy celebration and we’ll be connected via the internet! Betsy & Mike Reppen

  24. VWD
    Way to go!!

  25. We are here, fighting suppressive rulers as common men and women without armies only armed with and idea as our weapon. An idea that spreads all over the globe like a wild fire of promise to the common man and women.

    No matter political or religious affiliation. This idea is precious beyond gold, and has the collective power to dissolve empires not suited to support it.

  26. George M. White

    Happy Independence Day to all

    Buddhist proverb:

    “We can do the impossible and become Free”

    George M. White

  27. Marty,
    Glad our tickets are already booked for this event. Can’t wait to see all you guys and get up to date on the latest news.

    The media is definitely not done with miscavige and TC.

    I thought this quote was particularly funny:

    “Short of going into the witness-protection program, how can Holmes disentangle herself and her daughter from the Church of Scientology?”

    Then Jenna Miscavige weighs in:

    The niece of Church of Scientology leader David Miscavige has condemned the hardcore religious fraternity in the wake of Katie Holmes‘ decision to divorce the organization’s poster child, Tom Cruise.

    Jenna Miscavige Hill, who defected from the Church in 2005, said the ultra-zealous organization is no place for “an innocent child” like Suri, the couple’s six-year-old daughter.

    In a statement to Celebuzz, the ex-member said:
    “While it is very unlikely that Suri Cruise would have the same upbringing as me (due to her parent’s celebrity status), any organization that is capable of mistreating and neglecting the needs of children, regardless of their social status, and which has a long history of breaking up families is no place for an innocent child,”

    See you all on the weekend. Happy Independence to our friends who can’t make it.

  28. Izhar Perlman - Lisbon

    Have a great party and best wishes from Europe.

  29. Foarte bine Vasile.

  30. Happy Indy day to all. Not able to be at the annual event. Ron Matlock is very wise when he states, “Freedom-it’s a precious gift!”

    Love the mystery Marty places on this weekend…oh my…oh my what is my favorite point guard up to now?

    Much Theta to all…Jack Airey

  31. Roger Thought (LO)

    Happy independence Day to you all !

    And here the newest news :

    Truth comes out at fast speed !

  32. Have a great Independence Day everybody!

    Wow, we’ve come so far in such a relatively short time. It’s amazing! To think of all the fantastic things that have happened since that profound document – the Declaration of Independence – was signed 236 years ago is mind-boggling.

    It’s even more amazing to see the positive changes that have occurred in the few short years since the advent of Independent Scientology. Like the signers of that historic declaration, Scientlogists from around the world are declaring their Independence from the enforced allegiance and oppressive control of David Miscavige’s Church of Scientology.

    Karry and I are so glad to have reconnected with our true group. The future is once again wide open and the promise of freedom is renewed in our hearts.

    And in that spirit on this 4th of July, I’d like to thank Marty Rathbun – who like the signers of America’s Declaration of Independence, has been a tireless advocate for freedom and a true catalyst for positive change in the world.

    Thank you Marty, for setting an example and inspiring Scientologists the world over to “mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor”.


    Scott Campbell

  33. Great! It would probably be better to notify Steve Hall by email, as he has requested … see his site at

  34. Li'll bit of stuff

    Vasile, hearty congratulations, on your
    announcement. Independent at last!
    You have no idea just how much this
    coming out will free you. Throwing off
    the heavy mask is like throwing open
    a heavy prison door, and stepping out
    into the sunshine! Enjoy!
    All the best for the future, and looking
    forward to more posts from VASILE!!!

    ARC, Calvin. Indie500 no# 301

  35. Enjoy and celebrate your independence, Vasile, as we celebrate both yours and ours.

    Happy 4th of July everyone.

    Vic K.

  36. The apostate label is like the cult label, it has slippery inflections that technically logically lead to its use making no sense.

    I guess you would also take issue with my label of official Scientology, since technically current official Scientology is so off the Hubbard rails it doesn’t deserve “official.”

    But corporate Scientology isn’t correct technically either, since LRH did authorize and later promoted and agree with all the religious corporations setups. The negative inflection “corporate Scientology” backhand label isn’t a good label, because LRH left the movement in a corporate setup and THAT is his wishes, and that fact seeps into the minds of those that know this, and hear the negative “corporate Scientology” label’s use.

    Not to argue, but better to enjoy this day off.

    I like “official Scientology” since I believe longer range, it will inevitably evolve out of its baddest ways. (I err in dreaming about the long future of inevitable reform of official Scientology and DM’s leaving the stage isn’t going to collapse all the rest that LRH has put there with his extensive admin writings.)

  37. Great post, Martin, one of the best ever in my opinion. And so very appropriate on this 4th of July. It is an excellent reminder of how valuable the freedom is that we enjoy and celebrate, and of the very real sacrifices both known and unknown that have been made over the centuries to achieve and protect it.

  38. one of those who see

    Hello Vasile!!! Happy Independence Day to you from America!!!! A toast to freedom today!

  39. My wife Kay Christenson and I are with you in spirit, as you gather in Minnesota. My study twin on Solo NOTS, Kay Clark Proctor will represent us there. My guess, on parsing Marty’s words in this post, is that the upcoming events will no doubt accelerate the delivery of REAL Scientology technology, as LRH intended it, enabling countless beings to have an Independence Day, every day.

    Thanks to LRH for the marvelous tech, and to Marty, Mike, Steve, et. al, for continuing to shine the light of truth, so those of goodwill and courage can connect up carry on.

  40. one of those who see

    Marty! What an exciting post today!!!! Happy Independence Day!! Have a wonderful weekend. I am truly there in spirit and hope to meet all of you someday soon. Perfect quote from Mr. Paine. To my fellow Scientologists still supporting the Tyranny: Come join us. You can not free people by enslaving them. This concept (we will free you by enslaving you) is some kind of dramatization straight from the bank and has no place in Scientology or the universe for that matter.

  41. Vasile,
    My sincere congratulations!

  42. Li'll bit of stuff

    Great story ST, and something I believe in and
    practise with confidence, just like you:
    TR’s and granting of beingness, some of the
    bests gifts LRH bestowed upon mankind, ever!
    How sad, when those who have such potent
    tools at their disposal, can’t/won’t use them.

  43. Li'll bit of stuff

    Thank you for all your dedication Marty & Monique!
    Happy Day of Independence!!!

  44. Welcome Vasile and much happiness as you go forward.
    Happy 4th of July to all.

  45. Ronnie Bell

    Vasile, thank you for standing tall and declaring your independence from the corrupt, evil, and maggot infested body that calls itself the Church of Scientology, Inc. You’ve just taken the first step toward regaining your honor and personal integrity as a Scientologist.

    Welcome to freedom!

  46. Scott,
    My exact sentiments, thank you for expressing them.

  47. Hell just froze over….. Fox News just ran a segment on Cruise/Holmes and Scientology. Never thought I would see that…

  48. This leads to a bigger discussion, but I almost don’t want to influence it.

    Viewpoint PL is what is branded in my brain when I use labels I use in describing Scientology to other people.

    To me what LRH wrote that makes Scientology, all of it, what it is, is the bottom line what people in future generations will HAVE to use at the primary stable data of what to call and label what, of the major themes in this subject, Scientology.

    Hubbard’s writings disses all the splinter groups, bar none, and he’s consistent.

    The current derogatory term used by Scientology incorporated is “apostate” to demean anyone NOT in good graces and sticking to the current Scientology command intention. That’s backed up by Hubbard, despite the fact that us ex members know that Hubbard’s rules also should have been employed to long ago root out Miscavige from his Napoleon persch (Pope on a Box, whatever).

    Even the new religion scholars are now wised up with Scientology’s propaganda, so you’ve won your case, that battle’s won.

    But the new religion scholars think of the gotbucks Scientology movement officially as the incorporated network of Scientology churches, missions, etc.

    Freezone and Indepenent Scientologists while they might have more of the heart and soul goodness (but I allow good intentions for those still official Scientology), and maybe, you are thinking that official Scientology’s gonna splatter and fall apart, but what if it doesn’t.

    And what is official Scientology anyways.

    It’s what LRH wrote.

    That’s my viewpoint.

    I think in the end of the day it will be LRH’s conclusions about how to keep the Bridge there and available versus the older religion’s various tactics to keep themselves going generation after generation.

    LRH gave a long term thought, and he put all his thought into it.

    Whether he’s right or now, I think is an important discussion, and I think those that exit the top admin ranks where the strategic level decisions about which “sector” to focus on (the celebrity sector is DM’s hobbyhorse, or was for a while), is important to think about.

    The WDC and Exec Strata were to be manned up with long term thinkers, with people who knew the whole Hubbard admin scriptures lineup of options.

    I think because people got a chance, especially Exec Strata staffers, and to me it’s a 10-20 year learning curve to even getting up to being capable of making really strategic decades positive decisions.

    Example, when someone finally chooses to end the overzealous disconnection option, will be ONE major good turning point in future official Scientology history.

    Example, when someone in top ranks Scientology finally ceases using all of the offensive Guardian’s Office and earlier Hubbard ordered tactics to counterattack enemies, that will also be a major turning point.

    Having read so much of LRH’s admin writings, and his final years private writings, to ASI, to Int, and having taken seriously, and wondering how it long range would all turn out, I’m inevitably driven back to LRH’s last public LRH ED wishes.

    The core of Scientology is the Bridge, and the admin stuff is just to keep the Bridge there.

    The latest freezone convention members were even wondering how to long range maybe organize so they’ll continue the tech.

    Max is just going ahead, he’s setting up his Ron’s Org new building in Switzerland, which seems a long range plan worthy of continuing to watch.

    It is always a much longer range endeavor, these religion endeavors.

    I will butt out now.

    Happy Independence day to all. .

  49. NIce Vasile !! VWD !!

  50. Ronnie Bell

    Wonderfully stated, Scott. I echo everything you said.

    Indeed, the future of our priceless religious technology has been assured because of the hard work, sacrifice, and great risks taken by those pioneer Independents who came before us. They blazed a trail out of the degradation and darkness of an organization gone mad, and carried our precious technology into the bright light of freedom.

    They stood tall in that light, and defiantly told the truth about the organization to all who would listen. In so doing, they showed others the way back to sanity, real brotherhood, and truth. I can’t thank them enough for what they’ve done for me, my family and friends, and for all humanity. They have quite literally saved the Route Out for us all.

    The parallels between their deeds, and those of America’s Founding Generation, are many, and are very appropriate. In decades and centuries to come, their names will be as familiar to the multitudes, as those great men we remember this Independence Day.

  51. Ronnie Bell

    …the long-term effects of coming events will do more to loosen the tyrant’s grip on the free practice of Scientology than just about any events to date.

    Wow! I’d say that I’m in breathless anticipation, but that would be an understatement. I’m going to be on the edge of my seat for the rest of the week!

  52. Thanks for sharing your day you started indepedence great vasile.

  53. Thanks Martin! I love some of those old documentaries too.

    I did my stint in the US Army as a young man, not wholly unlike the SO or LRH Green on White (comparisons are profound if one cares to look into it)… except perhaps for the level of punishment.

    Even the United States military grunt (infantry) training, as tough and tumble as it is, and believe me some of that training is a living hell, would never dole out such egregious and continual life (personality) usurping punishment as the SO head puppets via the Midget’s SOP can inflict.

    Happy & safe INDEPENDENCE DAY to one and all.

  54. I just wish to say Enjoy your forthcoming event this weekend/ those that go
    Also by the way I enjoyed the Book thanks to Marthys, Its an easy to read and good data for those on edge for and in the between stage of what happening /Except what chances is there for those confind to hemet to get to see this unless sneaked out off base ( if such Liberties , and run into some one to show them it . Thats wishful thinking I surpose.

    The Daily Mail in the Uk today covers widley Homes/Cruise on the on going divorce matter / along with news of kate protecting her daugtehr from being recruited early into the Sea Org as mentioned .
    Its been on centre pages, smothering it with photo’s of the compound and descriptions of costs to refurnbish from what it orginal was and who the church bought the compound from.
    Also ensuring a coverage of snipers are picture centre pages of the Mail.

  55. Sapere Aude

    Vasile – welcome to the world of freedom to be, to do and to have! You are amongst some of the very best people.

  56. Happy 4th of July to you all!!!!! Love Carol and David
    FYI, Megan Kelly on Fox News did a story this am on Katie and Tom and the COS. I have not seen Fox ever do a story on the COS.

  57. Tony Dephillips

    Plus 1!

  58. Eloquent stated sentiments Ronnie.

    I fully agree with you and look forward to the day when mankind evolves to a higher state of being because of individuals who would not give up – no matter what opposition they encountered, in their quest for spiritual freedom for all.

  59. Vasile congratulations on Freedom. Happy Independence Day!!!!!

  60. Should have read “Eloquently stated”. Ha!

    Yeah, I’m eloquent too…

  61. Kevin Tighe

    Mark Shreffler has announced his Independence in an email to friends today. IMHO Mark is the #1 raw public disseminator over the past 25 years. He plans to continue his amazing dissemination skills in the Independent field. He stood by me after I was declared. I will most definitely have his back.

  62. threefeetback

    Time to replace Gretta with someone new.

  63. Tory Christman

    Congratulations, Vasile! Your life is now yours….may you enjoy it and continue to shine your light where ever there is darkness. Sunshine Disinfects 🙂

  64. Happy Independents Day to you all, especially Marty, Mosey, Mike, Christie, Steve H (his wife and little girl on the way) and many more brave and loving souls here. Much Love,

  65. Tory Christman

    Thank you, Marty, for this most important quote! “he that stands now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.” Amen! I have to tell you all, you would have been SO proud of Sam Damingo at our “SP Dublin Convention”. She helped create history—being the FIRST Convention that had ALL: Ex-Scios, Anonymous, Indie (Sam) and Critics all together, in harmony. I thought of many of you throughout the week-end, and could only smile and the joy we all had, and how healing is continuing OUTSIDE of C of $ at a rate the Cult cannot block. May freedom continue to rein! Tick Tock, Tick Tock….Time is on *our* side! Love to ALL, Tory/Magoo

  66. Indie Anon

    Marty’s teasings are so good!
    First, he teased us about his book (☆☆☆☆☆).
    Now he is teasing us about the phoenix…

  67. Congratulations and High Fives to Vasile ! Warm, warm welcome

  68. Hollywood Reporter interviewed all of us~~~

    Rathbun, Rinder, De La Carriere, Scobee and Headley.

  69. Tory Christman

    Great job to ALL of you!! I was hoping this would occur 🙂 Thanks to Karen, Marty, Mike, Amy and Marc the wild man Headley 🙂 🙂

  70. Bruce Pratt

    Mr “Diuretics” and “Sirentology” is independent!? Holy firecracker! I hope that’s worthy of fireworks in celebration. He was an awesome, incredible speaker and disseminator when I had the opportunity to cross paths with him a couple of times in LA.

  71. Claudio Lugli

    To all the brothers and sisters in America, may you have a wonderfull INDEPENDENCE DAY.
    We Indies have a goal in common-
    We Indies are getting there.
    Thank you to you all for being here with us.
    We are proud to be with you!

    Claudio & Renata

  72. Ronnie Bell

    Mark Shreffler has announced his Independence in an email to friends today. IMHO Mark is the #1 raw public disseminator over the past 25 years.

    Wow! The best and brightest just continue to stream past the razor wire. The Scientology Underground Railroad is becoming an express train!

  73. Enjoy this day and your Independence Day. God knows y’all have earned it.

  74. Thanks for posting, Chuck!

    Happy Independence Day to you, too.

  75. LOL! Dawg!

  76. The Oracle

    Happy Birthday! Welcome to the world!

  77. Welcome out Vasile! You picked a great day for the announcement!

  78. Chris Mann

    I like that one. Everyone has a better one than me. Can I “re”-come out? I was sort of under a lot of stress when I came out and I just “yanked off the bandaid” if you know what I mean.


  79. Chris Mann

    promo and email

  80. A very warm welcome Vasile

  81. What a day. Hollywood Reporter story. Mark Shreffler goes independent. Looks to me like the flood has started.

    How long can Dave tread water????

  82. Since this is Independence Day, and since freedom from the reactive mind is what it’s really all about, I thought I would post this win from one of my PCs this afternoon.

    July 4, 2012
    Through some amazing auditing and persistence, I’ve finally achieved THE STATE OF CLEAR. To finally have acknowledgement of this state is very special. When it happened, it literally “popped.” At first, I was reluctant to let it happen–but I let that go and POP! I’m excited to see what I can create now in my universe! With no need for the creation of the bank I really feel like I am myself again, and I can handle what comes my way. My ears are still humming (in a good way)! There is clarity of thought and a great peace of mind. Thanks to LEC: Les, for the perfect auditing for me; Anita, perfect support and encouragement; Frankie, my perfect C/S. Teamwork definitely got me this far! And LRH! BP


  83. Happy Independence Day to all today. Happy Independents Day to all who attend this weekend. My thoughts are with you, even if my body is not.

  84. For those wondering why Rupert Murdoch suddenly took on Scientology when he’s got his own problems (and is a little creepy himself), this
    explains it.

  85. Tom Gallagher


    It’s July 4th (how apropos) and moments ago I finished reading your new book. I basically read it in one sitting; couldn’t put it down.

    What I took away from your writing was a profound sense of rehabilitation of my gains from my past auditing and study. Then again I experienced those ‘aha!’ moments, too. Not only do you clarify what is wrong with Scientology (Inc. think) but you deftly point out what is truly right and good about the subject as well. Thank you!

    Well worth the 1776 cents or is that sense.

    Happy Holiday!

  86. Ronnie Bell

    In case this doesn’t work, it’s an attempt to post a picture of Old Glory in commemoration of today’s festivities:

  87. Great article. Just great.

  88. Indie Anon

    It might be a good idea to add, on the right side of the blog, a publications section with 2 links, one for your paper book, and one for the kindle edition. So, anybody who is lurking this blog, may see them.

  89. Rory Medford

    May todays day of feeling free spread out through the year and I hope this message this blog puts out reaches the people who want to experience real Scientology. If you don’t like what you see and hear in Corporate Scn and you want to speak up come on over to the Indy side we will listen and not muffle or stymie your thoughts. On the fence? Not happy with corporate SCN? Jump on over and join a group who cares and is not out for all of your money and time

  90. The Hollywood Reporter interview was great. After reading it, I’ve concluded Tom can’t win this.

    Here’s why: if Katie loses Suri to Tom, it won’t be the end of things, it’ll be the beginning.

    Nicole was seen as “Tom’s Australian wife”, and little was know about the children. The public wasn’t invested. But Katie is adored from her time on “Dawson’s Creek”. Suri is recognizable the world over. The public is very interested and invested.

    Should Tom become the decision-maker, the press will continue to follow what happens to Suri, and continue to investigate Scientology, and you all will be fighting for her too (I think?). Tom can’t win this…no matter what happens in court.


  91. Sapere Aude

    Les – that is a Wonderful!! win. A win for all concerned. The wins from the application of the tech, without any alter-is or suppression, is what makes all this worth it. Thank you all for what you do!

  92. Will his best friend Morten Runow follow?

  93. How about this Ronnie?

  94. WOW!!!
    When we were in Vegas, Mark came up and did a seminar for 9 people we had on our lines. 7 of them signed up right away for a course at the vegas org. This was back in the early 90’s. He is just a great speaker.

  95. Under the radar but today I threw out 3 bags of promo and Videos. It would really mystify an outsider that one in ‘the church’ is not even allowed to NOT keep so much promo. It was use to be a crime for me to toss out almost anything.that was forced on us at all events.

  96. Tom Gallagher

    Amazing news. By the way, Mark was the first person I talked to in Scn by way of an HCO interview circa 1974 @ the Cincinnati mission. Time flies………..

  97. martyrathbun09

    Don’t believe everything you read in the press.

  98. Chuck, I love reading your posts. They are so “meaty” – very thoughtful and cognition provoking. Please keep them coming!

  99. Ronnie Bell

    Thank you, my brother. That’ll work. Happy Independent’s Day to us all!

  100. I don’t, but from what I’ve read on this blog, it sure sounds like something the FBI should investigate. That said, please delete my post if it is incorrect!! I definitely don’t want to spread dis-information!!

    And thanks for letting me know it’s not true! 🙂

    Happy 4th!

  101. Ronnie Bell

    LMAO! 🙂

  102. Especially the Daily Mail — who are proving to be the most incompetent of all in their reporting on this story….

  103. Ronnie Bell


  104. Katie just filed a motion to make the divorce PUBLIC:

    If I ever get divorced, I’m calling Martin Holmes, because he is playing on a whole other level. Little high school dropout Davy and his 2nd tier lawyers aren’t capable of besting this man. Heeeee

  105. Ronnie Bell

    Thanks for the link, Karen. I posted it to the Indie FB group. Awesome article, with tons of detail. That vampire up in Hemet must be screaming in agony from all the bright light being shown on him. Great job.

  106. Anyone going to be in NYC on July 17th? Open to the public!!!!

  107. Ronnie Bell

    Fan-f’ing-tastic! This is what it’s all about!

  108. DarnIt, it’s not a crime to throw that crap out. Really. I promise. It’s not.

    Crimes are things done by the Cult of $cientology. And one of them is convincing you that throwing away that crap is a crime!

  109. Thank you….good to know. No more DM for me. Ironically, just noticed they have the same initials as Tom’s best friend.

  110. Ronnie Bell

    Come on out and play, Darn It. 🙂

  111. David Miscavige by name is now in the news as being TC’s “manwife”.

    Happy Independence Day Katie Holmes.


  112. Welcome out again Chris 🙂

  113. That is some wild news Kevin !! Hopeful for his smooth and successful transition to the right side !! :)) I had the brief pleasure of working with Mr. Shreffler on an event at Mt. View back in the late 80’s. He can command an audience to be sure.

  114. +++++++++++ big time congrats BP & Les !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  115. Indie Anon


    I clicked, on the right side of the blog, in the “image to read profile Scientology’s heretic’”, and it took me to The Independient’s web page, which is a slide show with almost nothing written about you.
    HOWEVER, right under the slide show’s picture, there is an ad by Goggle: “Who is Marty Rathbun? Videos, Biography, Photos The data will shock you” LINKED TO

    This is the right weblink to The Independient’s web page:
    This web page has the full story. (Even though it has a Google Ad linked to

  116. Vasile, This is surely something to celebrate. I have added your name to the Indie 500! Congratulations and thanks for helping to keep Scientology working.

  117. Thank you and right back at-cha!

  118. Marty, that’s a beautiful postulate you’ve laid down for Independence Day 2012!!

  119. martyrathbun09

    Thanks, will fix.

  120. Kevin, thanks for the news re: Mark Shreffler. That’s big-time good news. With “Shreff” doing dissemination now in the Independent field better really prepare to deliver.

  121. Sunshine Disinfects

    FANTASTIC NEWS!! Love him to bits. There has to be more fall-out over this. I so hope he soon announces his independence here and leaves a contact email address

  122. Tom Gallagher

    I stopped by the local cafe in my neighborhood Tuesday. An older couple I’ve become fond of were there having their usual early dinner about 4 pm. While we were chatting the ‘Cruise/Holmes news’ flashed on the big screen TV. Shirley then told the story to us patrons that she went to high school with Katie’s grandfather, dated him back in the day and moved on but kept in touch and this year are jointly organizing their 60th high school reunion this August in Toledo, Ohio. They were and are still close friends.

    I’ll cut to the quick: Fritzy (Katie’s grandpa) told her that it became clear within the family that TC was gay and controlled by the ‘cult’ Shirley was emphatic that the entire family was circling the wagon to protect her and her daughter.

    Shirley and her husband Jim’s story of their experiences of having a vacation condo on Clearwater Beach near Flag would necessitate another posting, however it jives with the observations of the “Inc. Think” ™ we’ve all observed.

    It’s really a small world after all.

  123. Luis Garcia

    Congratulations and welcome, Vasile!

  124. Luis Garcia


  125. GREAT article Karen! An easy read and communicates extremly well. My thanks you and Mike, Marty, Amy, Mark and all that are pushing the truth forward. Marty’s book continues to give. I am now reviewing it again.
    On the side: any indies, non indies, outies or former members of the CofS or Sea Org want to get in comm or need a terminal in Sonoma County, call me, I’m friendly, will listen and will do anything I can to help! 707-536-5022

  126. Li'll bit of stuff

    You too?? Me too Chris—Calvin! LMAO

  127. Luis Garcia

    Awesome! This is what is all about.

  128. martyrathbun09

    Could you retrieve that material please and email me about it? Thanks.

  129. Li'll bit of stuff

    Your THETA shines through anyway, Scott!!!

  130. Just me, isn’t it so crazy how introverted one can get going up the bridge x?!@ I have been reading for weeks … I knew it wasn’t right but there wasn’t a choice …. I had one too many bad ‘trips’ and had to decide that I just didn’t care any more …. then I started looking …

  131. Li'll bit of stuff

    Great news indeed Kevin! That is one tough
    switched on character, if I ever saw one!!
    Hope to see him show up here very soon!

  132. Ronnie, hugs love, you make me smile (BTW I have a son in the ….)

  133. Who you talking too ? Hope not me, I would have to rush to the bins. LOL

  134. Captain Bob

    i dunno. The only thing one can be upbraided for is no results.


    either one delivers the product or one does not. And if one does not deliver the product, then one goes out of business. But the $OS has a different viewpoint or tactic on how to keep people involved.

    In researching lots of data……………..

    I dunno. Either one gets the grade, the level, the EP, or not. And plain old thetan talks about it on his website/blog, that would be David Lawrence. But when I researched somewhere I remember reading somebodies account, the somebodies viewpoint on when the attestation line started. Circa the 1967 or so. And at that point the gains were the responsibility of the pc as opposed to the church.

  135. Captain Bob

    but auditing and case gain is for the pc, not the church.

  136. Huge Congrats to the PC, Auditor, C/S and all the terminals involved. Keep on winning!!!!

  137. Interesting comment by Gary (Lurch) Soter in the Hollywood Reporter article:

    Soter responded: “The Church doesn’t comment on any individual parishioner or his or her spiritual journey. This is a private matter and it is inappropriate for comment. The Church has respected and will continue to respect the privacy of both parties during this difficult period.”

    What he should have said was: “the Church happily and routinely comments on the spiritual journey of anyone they consider isn’t kowtowing to Miscavige, including taking information out of their pc folders, but if its someone we don’t want to talk about we say we never comment.”

    Soter has become Miscavige’s new sockpuppet. Tommy bit the dust. Apparently Monique isnt doing the media thing any more, so its down to Lurch. And he just says what is dictated to him by POB.

    Another of his humorous comments was “All of these people are ex-communicated self-promoters who are sadly exploiting a private family matter for their own personal financial gain.” (referring to Marty, me, Karen #1, Marc Headley, Amy Scobee and Jenna Miscavige). Another line straight from the mouth shaking dictaphone of Miscavige — he knows the highest motivation in his universe is money, so therefore everyone must think like him. I am sure the reporter included this statement because it made him look like the fool he is — she knows she didn’t pay anyone and she reached out for comment. Nobody is around pimping themselves or others to the media — though you can bet POB will be back to his pimping ways real soon, if he hasn’t already fired Mission Pimp II to find Mrs. Cruise IV (to keep up with the Mission Impossible franchise).

    It sucks to be a “manwife.”

  138. Li'll bit of stuff

    EP, This is a great day indeed. Free of the
    Reactive bank at last. Taking back your own
    self determinism sans the formerly unknown,
    un-inspected reactive computations that
    can influence one’s life so detrimentally.
    And great work Les & Anita, it’s so heart-
    warming to see another deserving being step right out and away from that darkness, and into the sunshine made possible through
    your teamwork, and using that genius gift from
    L.Ron Hubbard, called STANDARD auditing!
    What a great day for you all! Enjoy!

    I look forward to the experience too, one day!

  139. This is a brilliant move. If there’s anything Cruise/Miscavige won’t want is an open court. Remember the Debbie Cook matter…… court and what a fiasco that turned into for the cult.

    I’m sure we’ll get ringside reports from Tony Ortega. This is right in his backyard.

  140. Joe Pendleton

    Marty, just finished your book. Hard for me to find the right words to express how I feel about it. It’s a beautiful book. It’s a compassionate book which deals with improving the human condition and it deals with increasing knowledge and enlightenment as a CONTINUAL activity (and a joyous one too). It’s about taking the limits off of one’s potential for thinking and knowledge (and we should not AGEE to any limits). It’s also about increasing one’s freedom. It’s a provacative book too; that is to say, it provoked me to think in ways I hadn’t just a few days before. And things are “still happening for me” – I’m not even close to being done with the EXPERIENCE of receiving your communication. In other words, you done good. Of course I don’t want to give you any type of FINAL acknowledgement, as I want more, so I’ll just say thank you again and “OK. Continue.”

  141. Joe Pendleton

    above, that should read “not AGREE to any limits” (I don’t think “agee” is a word!)

  142. Karen,

    Thanks for posting this. IMHO this is the best news article since this media blitz on the Cruise/Holmes mess, it actually attempts to give some sort of Time, Place, Form and Event. The good news is the expose of Dave’s influences on (a via and indirect way) on the relationship and just how nutty he is. Warning to OT VIII minions, stay the hell away from the freewinds this week, your brain will shrink more than you can imagine.

  143. Mike,

    I concur. Dave has limited his Church “Spokesperson” to Soter and Lawyers. Man this is classic Hitler digging himself into his bunker. Time to replay that movie scene where Hitler being played by German actor Bruno Ganz, is having an absolute fit, in front of his few remaining trusted aides, while the ship is sinking.

    Thanks to the Hollywood Reporter and other US Media outlets for finally having some balls to stop being afraid of Corp. Scn.

  144. Robert Earle

    Gotta love the new handle POB (aka TCs manwife) lol

  145. It sucks to be Manwife Miscavige.

  146. Robert Earle

    Nice story Tom. Hope to read the next installment. Very interesting.

  147. martyrathbun09

    Joe, thanks for sharing your thoughts. That right there made it worth the time.

  148. martyrathbun09

    Thanks for the pithy analysis. Next think you know they’ll have Lurch face the cameras – that would be the media feeding frenzy of the century.

  149. Holy crap Cindy, that is brilliant! It sounds like “Top Gun” is being out-gunned.

  150. Marty, if you want someone to collect this stuff as it comes in and send it to you, I’m happy to do it. Normally it goes straight to the recycle bin.

  151. threefeetback

    Now that Anderson Cooper has come out of the closet, he needs to set up a sequel to his Xwives Interview with Manwife Miscavage and ask him if he has “anything to say or ask.”

  152. Bravo!

  153. Happy Independence Day! Now try getting a bank account, job, hospital visit, cell phone, credit card, brokerage account, insurance policy, utilities, phones, etc. without a socialist slavestate number. Then attempt to assert your common law right to travel behind the wheel without plates, registration, insurance, a license, etc. Then go to the airport and attempt to purchase an airplane ticket with cash. Odds are you won’t make it as far as the TSA-hole grope down artists, you will be rounded up and interrogated about where you got the cash and are you a drug dealer. (It’s only ok to be a drug dealer if you are an Eli Lilly certified Prozac pusher.)

    Yup, independence. Good thing we fought the British and won that. Who knows … if we didn’t fight or if we lost, we might all be saddled with paying income taxes, sales taxes on everything, being told what we can eat, drink, grow in our own garden, or smoke, groped for our own safety, and/or forced into a government run healthcare plan. Yup, good thing we won. Enjoy!


  154. Li'll bit of stuff

    Steve, Ho-ho-ho! So now we know why you’ve
    been a bit preoccupied lately. Hey man! Always
    great to hear about “someone special” becoming part of the family. Hope you keep us posted?

    ARC, Calvin..

  155. *** I would like to thank you in retrospect to everybody for this warm welcome. ***

    You ALL are just amassing people.
    I feel very honoured by you.
    With respect and admiration,

    @ Roger Thought (LO):: thanks Roger, I will do it soon.

    @ Richard Royce:: this is the theta universe in action, where is Alex living?

    @ Ardealu:: mulcumest frumos.

    @ Chris Mann:: Chris, welcome OUT again! You are funny. 🙂

  156. Marty,
    By your own admission, you worked in this organization doing very ugly work for many years, believing in what you were doing. From what I have read, you decided to leave when DM sent you to the ‘Hole’. I presume he was deliberately edging you out, maybe planning on sending you to one of the remote bases they maintain. Maybe for ‘re-education’ or ‘ethics training’? Any high ranking executive in any large corporation would be outraged and embittered to find themselves marginalized in this way.
    Many years ago when I was aged about 20 ( I am now 39) I was invited by a young person on the street to have a free IQ test. I subsequently spent an hour at a Scientology center. I was repulsed and offended by the entire experienced. I had never heard of Scientology, but after going through an introductory audit and then being sent to meet with a senior manager I saw that their methods to draw me in were transparent and highly unethical. The senior manager who examined the results of my ‘personality test’ (no IQ test was forthcoming, no matter how persistent I was in requesting it), was very aggressive in her attempt to demoralize me. Her aim was to make me feel like complete failure. She advised me that my life was in an appalling state and I was urgently in need of Scientology. Clearly, Scientology was the adult and I was a child, a bad, stupid, failure of a child. She told me that I needed to purchase LRH’s books immediately. When I told her that I could not afford them at that time she disgustedly interrogated me on my financial situation. I was an unemployed full time student doing very well at university but I did not feel that need to advise her of my academic success. Right from the beginning, when I stood on the street and agreed to take the fictional IQ test, the evasive, unintelligent noises made by the low ranking recruiter sent a clear message that this would be a regrettable experience. I was bemused by the pseudo scientific demonstration with the E meter. The aggressive treatment by the senior manager was enough proof that this was first and foremost a business enterprise and a completely unethical organization. Fascism, Communism, religious cults all employ the same manipulative and controlling devices. I never forgot this experience, such was my disgust. My recent reading of LRH’s work has not improved my impression. I am especially amused by his creative use of language in creating obfuscating and officious terminology, and using it as an authoritative and controlling tool. ‘Ethics’ is one of the more blatant misuses.

  157. By the way, today I am not a Scientologist, have never been a Scientologist, and yet I have lived a beautiful life thus far, and a spiritual life. Scientology would have fed off my resourcefulness, intelligence, creativity, passion and success like a parasite and diminished me. And no, that is not my name and email address below. I would never expose myself to someone like yourself, who claims to have been exploited by the very same machine that he helped create.

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