David Miscavige on the Internet and Scientology

Attached is but one of dozens of utterances of David Miscavige that are recorded and  excerpted by his staff and delivered to International Scientology Inc Management as orders on a daily basis.  As we have covered before, Miscavige orders on any given subject never seem to end and more often than not conflict with previous Miscavige orders.  They also more often than not conflict with L. Ron Hubbard policy.  The Miscavige orders take precedence over L. Ron Hubbard policy – and the standing order that all Miscavige orders ,such as the one below, must be word cleared method 9 (a method implanting the message into the head of the reader) by the recipients guarantees that. The net result is nothing gets done – except apparently alteration of L. Ron Hubbard’s words and the six annual events Miscavige lies and preens at.  Wanna know why the church of Scientology will not catch up with the times and make L. Ron Hubbard tech available to the world?   This order from Miscavige will give you some insight.

THE MISCAVIGE ORDER

25 Feb 2003

TO: A/T/CO CMO INT

A/T/WDC FB

A/T/ED INT

RE: MARCH 13TH EVENT

Internet:  You didn’t give me a report on what all is going to be on this Internet.  I need to know exactly what it is since I don’t know that you have to launch every single part of it, including the Source Library.  I am curious what’s on there and I really don’t want something on there that’s going to be outdated in short order.  For instance, there are 80 PLs to be fixed.  There are books being corrected.  So preempting all those books by putting all the text on the Internet could really be a disaster.  Further, there’s a bunch of Internet cronies who like taking things out of context and you are going to give them easy picking to be able to do this.  To tell me that they won’t be able to get access to the Internet tells me nothing.  Because I don’t know how a Scientologist is going to get an access to it.  In fact, it seems like the thing should be IAS required membership, which would both help get memberships and would get the correct access.  I don’t know that the plan is on it, which is not unusual.  I had a whole comm cycle with Sky Dayton and did not hear a single word from anybody in Int following that letter which was cc’ed to everybody.

THE FOLLOWING IS  A TRANSLATION FOR THOSE HAVING DIFFICULTY FOLLOWING IT:

TRANSLATION INTERLINEATED IN CAPS BY MARTY

RE: MARCH 13TH EVENT
THE RE LINE MEANS THAT EVEN THOUGH HE IS GIVING LIP SERVICE TO GETTING SOURCE MATERIAL OUT ON THE INTERNET,IT REALLY – AS ALWAYS – IS ABOUT THE EVENT – WHAT AM I GOING TO LIE TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS TIME?
Internet: You didn’t give me a report on what all is going to be on this Internet.
THIS IS PURELY ASS COVERING. HE HAS ALREADY DICTATED EXACTLY WHAT IS TO BE DONE ON “THIS INTERNET” PROJECT TO USE AT THE EVENT. AND THEY HAVE REPORTED BACK COMPLIANCE THAT THE DRONES HAVE BEEN PUTTING IT TOGETHER AROUND THE CLOCK.
I need to know exactly what it is since I don’t know that you have to launch every single part of it, including the Source Library.
THIS IS ASS COVERING TO INFER THAT HE DIDN’T ORDER IT IN THE FIRST PLACE, SO HE CAN BEAT, PUNCH, SLAP AND KICK SOME ‘KNUCKLEHEAD’ IN THE FUTURE IF IT FLAPS.
I am curious what’s on there and I really don’t want something on there that’s going to be outdated in short order. For instance, there are 80 PLs to be fixed.
I AM STILL FINE TUNING MY COVERT EDITS OF L RON HUBBARD TO FIT MY PREDECLICTIONS.
There are books being corrected.
BECAUSE L RON HUBBARD WAS SO UNLCEAR ABOUT THINGS, I AM SADDLED WITH CORRETING HIM.
So preempting all those books by putting all the text on the Internet could really be a disaster.
MORE ASS COVERING, I DON’T WANT SOURCE GETTING OUT TO ANYBODY, AND HERE IS MY LATEST JUSTIFICATION – I MIGHT CHANGE IT.
Further, there’s a bunch of Internet cronies (HE CONSIDERS ANYONE ON THE NET WHO CRITICIZES HIM AS PART OF SOME CREW OF DO NOTHINGS WHO LIVE BEHIND COMPUTERS – “CRONIES” IS JUST A PLAIN MISUSE OF THE WORD.)
who like taking things out of context and you are going to give them easy picking to be able to do this. YOU CAN’T POSSIBLY PUT SOURCE ON THE INTERNET – HUBBARD IS SO EASY TO MAKE FUN OF (AGAIN ASS COVERING FOR ” THE HELL WITH GETTING LRH TECH OUT AND AVAILABLE”
To tell me that they won’t be able to get access to the Internet tells me nothing. Because I don’t know how a Scientologist is going to get an access to it.
WE ONLY WANT CARD CARRYING ROBOTS TO HAVE ACCESSS TO LRH.
In fact, it seems like the thing should be IAS required membership, which would both help get memberships and would get the correct access.
BUT, ME BEING THE ONLY GUY WHO BRINGS MONEY IN AROUND HERE, YET AGAIN HAS COME UP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA. HOLD ACCESS TO SOURCE AND ONLY DISPENSE – NOT JUST FOR THE COST OF PUTTING IT THERE, AND A LITTLE PROFIT – NO, LET’S MAKE PEOPLE PAY ABSURD AMOUNTS LIKE PATRON GLITTERING FAIRY WITH ANGEL DUSTED TONGUES STATUS AT, SAY, A COUPLE MILL A POP.
I don’t know that the plan is on it, which is not unusual.
OF COURSE NOT, IT WAS MY PLAN IN THE FIRST PLACE AND I HAVE CROSS ORDERED AND ALTER IT SO MANY TIMES,I CAN’T KEEP TRACK OF MYSELF.
I had a whole comm cycle with Sky Dayton and did not hear a single word from anybody in Int following that letter which was cc’ed to everybody.
SKY DAYTON PROTESTED THAT THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY BECOMING SYNONYMOUS IN THE PUBLIC MIND WITH SUPPRESSION OF FREEDOM OF INFORMATION THROUGH THE NET WAS NOT ONLY RUINING HIS OWN REPUTATION, IT WAS DESTROYING SCIENTOLOGY. OF COURSE, I BLAMED IT ALL ON YOUR IDIOTS AND TOLD HIM I WAS ALL FOR FREEDOM OF INFORMATION AND GETTING LRH OUT. I WROTE HIM A FLOWERY LETTER SAYING AS MUCH. I COPIED YOU ON IT – EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOTHING BUT MEANINGLESS PLATITUDES STROKING THE GUY (BECAUSE I AM THE ONLY ONE AROUND HERE WHO CAN STROKE WORTH A DAMN – VIOLENTLY OR LOVINGLY) – SO THAT I COULD AGAIN BLAME MY PRE-HISTORIC AND MEDEIVAL IDEAS ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGIES ON YOU SORRY SAPS.

 

201 responses to “David Miscavige on the Internet and Scientology

  1. :”These Internets are scary”

  2. Looks like Int Base really is like Lord of the Flies.

  3. Huh?

  4. Wadda he say?

  5. Clearly the clever Miscavige is in total confusion. He knows nothing of what is going on.

  6. So Marty, are we all a “bunch of Internet cronies”?

  7. “For instance, there are 80 PLs to be fixed. ”
    ~ DM

    We see you, Miscavige.

  8. Sounds like a man who doesn’t know a lot of stuff and is somewhat out of his depth.

    From reading what he’s written it seems to me there are plans to make books available on a secured website which would only be accessible to card carrying corporate scientologists. I expect the site will actually be a retail site selling digital versions of the books to corporate scientologists; a clever move if you want to reduce distribution costs and eliminate reproduction costs. Bet they cost the same though.

    LOL at the fear they will be out of date. Like paper books magically disappear when Miscavige “fixes” them. >.<

    That last sentence about a lack of response from Int, could it be they're ignoring him!? Surely he's not loosing his grip (on the organisation, I feel he's already lost his grip on reality)?

  9. Do ya think they remove expletives, only they seem conspiciously absent?

  10. Wordy and dull with some passive-aggressiveness flavor and a little shrillness and whining mixed in.

    All he had to say was “I need to see and approve the plans for (a) posting only correct versions of text on the Internet and (b) controlling access to the posted material. I need the plans by (date). Thanks!”

    And of course signed, “ARC, Your COB.”

    Community colleges have some good courses in basic writing skills.

  11. The Captain of the Hindenburg is worried about all that hydrogen gas?
    Huh, Duh, Geez, Cronies?, whats for lunch? Who is my new punching bag?
    Everyone to the “HOLE” Now !!!!!

  12. Holy Crap! And that was a snapshot of his command of the comm cycle in 2003!!!!! I wonder what was uttered forth this morning…….. I perceive something like:

    “Coc&^%$g pieces of worthless s%(t. Non of you As&holes give a damn about all I have done to save this motherf&%$#@g church from those coc&%$g SPs that you don’t do anything about. F$#k, f%#k, f*&k, f@!k all of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get out of here! You are all RPFed as of now!”

    That probably is too rational for DM these days though.

  13. Sounds like this to me: Go here. Go there. Wait come back. What are you doing? How come you’re still here? I thought I told you to go? Where are you? Get back over here NOW! Are you still here? How long does it take you to get out of here anyway? Off with your head for not duplicating me.

  14. martyrathbun09

    Bob – good question. I have interlineated it with a translation by someone (me) who speaks “Scientology Inc Int” jargon. I might add it to the post if comments indicate it is useful. Good suggestion:

    TRANSLATION INTERLINEATED IN CAPS BY MARTY

    RE: MARCH 13TH EVENT
    THE RE LINE MEANS THAT EVEN THOUGH HE IS GIVING LIP SERVICE TO GETTING SOURCE MATERIAL OUT ON THE INTERNET,IT REALLY – AS ALWAYS – IS ABOUT THE EVENT – WHAT AM I GOING TO LIE TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS TIME?
    Internet: You didn’t give me a report on what all is going to be on this Internet.
    THIS IS PURELY ASS COVERING. HE HAS ALREADY DICTATED EXACTLY WHAT IS TO ON “THIS INTERNET” PROJECT TO USE AT THE EVENT. AND THEY HAVE REPORTED BACK COMPLIANCE THAT THE DRONES HAVE BEEN PUTTING IT TOGETHER AROUND THE CLOCK.
    I need to know exactly what it is since I don’t know that you have to launch every single part of it, including the Source Library.
    THIS IS ASS COVERING TO INFER THAT HE DIDN’T ORDER IT IN THE FIRST PLACE, SO HE CAN BEAT, PUNCH, SLAP AND KICK SOMEONE ‘KNUCKLEHEAD’ IN THE FUTURE IF IT FLAPS.
    I am curious what’s on there and I really don’t want something on there that’s going to be outdated in short order. For instance, there are 80 PLs to be fixed.
    I AM STILL FINE TUNING MY COVERT EDITS OF L RON HUBBARD TO FIT MY PREDECLICTIONS.
    There are books being corrected.
    BECAUSE L RON HUBBARD WAS SO UNLCEAR ABOUT THINGS, I AM SADDLED WITH CORRETING HIM.
    So preempting all those books by putting all the text on the Internet could really be a disaster.
    MORE ASS COVERING, I DON’T WANT SOURCE GETTING OUT TO ANYBODY, AND HERE IS MY LATEST JUSTIFICATION – I MIGHT CHANGE IT.
    Further, there’s a bunch of Internet cronies (HE CONSIDERS ANYONE ON THE NET WHO CRITICIZES HIM AS PART OF SOME CREW OF DO NOTHINGS WHO LIVE BEHIND COMPUTERS – “CRONIES” IS JUST A PLAIN MISUSE OF THE WORD.
    who like taking things out of context and you are going to give them easy picking to be able to do this. YOU CAN’T POSSIBLY PUT SOURCE ON THE INTERNET – HUBBARD IS SO EASY TO MAKE FUN OF (AGAIN ASS COVERING FOR – THE HELL WITH GETTING LRH TECH OUT AND AVAILABLE)
    To tell me that they won’t be able to get access to the Internet tells me nothing. Because I don’t know how a Scientologist is going to get an access to it.
    WE ONLY WANT CARD CARRYING ROBOTS TO HAVE ACCESSS TO LRH.
    In fact, it seems like the thing should be IAS required membership, which would both help get memberships and would get the correct access.
    BUT, ME BEING THE ONLY GUY WHO BRINGS MONEY IN AROUND HERE, YET AGAIN HAS COME UP WITH A BRIGHT IDEA. HOLD ACCESS TO SOURCE AND ONLY DISPENSE – NOT JUST FOR THE COST OF PUTTING IT THERE, AND A LITTLE PROFIT – NO, LET’S MAKE PEOPLE PAY ABSURD AMOUNTS LIKE PATRON GLITTERING FAIRY WITH ANGEL DUSTED TONGUES STATUS AT, SAY, A COUPLE MILL A POP.
    I don’t know that the plan is on it, which is not unusual.
    OF COURSE NOT, IT WAS MY PLAN IN THE FIRST PLACE AND I HAVE CROSS ORDERED AND ALTER IT SO MANY TIMES,I CAN’T KEEP TRACK OF MYSELF.
    I had a whole comm cycle with Sky Dayton and did not hear a single word from anybody in Int following that letter which was cc’ed to everybody.
    SKY DAYTON PROTESTED THAT THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY BECOMING SYNONYMOUS IN THE PUBLIC MIND WITH SUPPRESSION OF FREEDOM OF INFORMATION THROUGH THE NET WAS NOT ONLY RUINING HIS OWN REPUTATION, IT WAS DESTROYING SCIENTOLOGY. OF COURSE, I BLAMED IT ALL ON YOUR IDIOTS AND TOLD HIM I WAS ALL FOR FREEDOM OF INFORMATION AND GETTING LRH OUT. I WROTE HIM A FLOWERING LETTER SAYING AS MUCH. I COPIED YOU ON IT – EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOTHING BUT MEANINGLESS PLATITUDES STROKING THE GUY (BECAUSE I AM THE ONLY ONE AROUND HERE WHO CAN STROKE WORTH A DAMN – VIOLENTLY OR LOVINGLY) – SO THAT I COULD AGAIN BLAME MY PRE-HISTORIC AND MEDEIVAL IDEAS ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGIES ON YOU SORRY SAPS.

  15. I read it very carefully. It’s like he had a thought about something he didn’t understand, and then issued it as an order.

  16. martyrathbun09

    Perfect duplication Christie.

  17. martyrathbun09

    Absolutely.

  18. The ravings of a buffoon.

  19. a breakdown:
    what all
    this internet
    what’s on there
    want something on there
    all those books
    all the text
    bunch of Internet cronies
    I don’t know how
    IAS required
    I don’t know that
    had a whole comm cycle
    did not hear a single word
    cc’d everybody

    12 sentences
    use of the word ‘I’ 7 times
    use of the word ‘me’ 2 times

    There you are.
    ha ha ha

  20. This guy was “hand picked” to take over LRH’s hat? I remember hearing that being spread all over PAC at times. What an embarrassment to LRH that people actually believe that.

  21. Well it was 9 years ago. He’s probably got himself straightened out since then. He’s almost certainly the model of literacy and sanity now.

  22. He’s illiterate, technically at sea, and buried in MUs. I’ve seen better thought sequence and sentence construction from third graders. Even if, for some reason, he tried to give a correct order, no one would get it.

  23. And your point is? Are you JOKING me?? This makes perfect sense to me. Which is not unusual. But because you are forcing me to wear your hat, I will now have to find a way to understand this in time for the event. Sherman had damn well better be alerted so he knows what I will say after correcting his usual soft-sell. Report compliance to my office within 24 hours. – Dave

  24. Ziba Feulner

    ROFL…

  25. Ziba Feulner

    Nice, Tango23 🙂 🙂 🙂

  26. Bunch of do nothings that live behind a computer
    God…….. I line charged and have a floating TA

    Hey Honey, I have a new job description !!!!!

    David Miscavige should be on stage at the Laugh Factory

    He’s so funny, this guy runs a Church ?
    Jerry Lewis cant match D.M.s idiocy.

  27. Ziba Feulner

    A slight problem with run-on sentences, Miscavige…?

  28. Marty, could you translate the routings? I don’t remember anything about A/T, for instance.

  29. Alexis Ward

    He doesn’t have a clue…

  30. E.J. Croughs

    You read his mind.

  31. Tony Dephillips

    Gibberish.
    I think he may be semi-literate as part of the problem.

  32. That’s “Acting/Temporary” — Miscavige speak for “You could be off that post in a minute if I so decree. I will in the meantime keep demeaning and undermining your position by making it clear to everyone that you are only temporarily holding this position and acting for some other as yet undesignated sucker who is to be the real incumbent of this post.”

  33. Ronnie Bell

    Ok, I read each sentence twice as I was going through that – backing up and re-reading some sentences three times, and I still can hardly make heads or tails of what this despatch is supposed to be communicating. Perhaps more context is needed.

    Sounds like DM is worried about the internet being too free a source of information, or possibly of losing control over people via that comm line.

    The routings are also interesting. Those posts are virtually non-existent, per what I’ve learned here. It would have been more truthful to address that despatch to “Staff”, “Work Detail”, or “Borg Underlings”, etc.

  34. Thanks Mike. Wow, all top execs and they are all “Acting/Temporary”. What a destabilization.

  35. Mike, you are the Simon Cowell of the Indies; respected, and to the point. Of course without the dodgy haircut.

  36. TheWidowDenk

    Marty: “I might add it to the post if comments indicate it is useful.”
    Me: It’s useful. I didn’t understand it the first three times through. This translation helps! L, Rachel

  37. Sara — I will take that as a compliment, though people have often commented that I have a dodgy haircut… 🙂

  38. Helmuth, speaking for Boskone

    I want a snapshot of his comm cycle for Sept/Oct 2005. That’s when there was a mass Unpersonning of Marty on all CoS websites. Also in that period, due to the odd policy of only registering CoS domains for one year at a time, over 60 org domains fell into expiry and the sites went dark. (They eventually straightened that out after many weeks, and probably lots of money.)

    It’s like a blackbox to me, but it seems likely that he ordered all of INCOMM to work and sleep at their desks, erasing all mention of Marty (they failed), and no one was allowed to get a word in edgewise about the important stuff that was going to fall into the cracks while carrying out his whims.

    Want list: security video of the pie-faced reaction when he was eventually told of the consequences of his orders.

  39. TheWidowDenk

    Fascinating! Especially when the A/T posts are: CO CMO INT, WDC FB, and ED INT. Hardly the way to stabilize management.

    I was escorted out of ASI under the direction of the T/HAS. What an umock of a working installation and contrary to the direct product of a HAS and HCO. When the real HAS returned, it was too late to do much about it all except offer me more money to stay. I said “no.”

  40. Yeah — that wasn’t the only destabilization that occurred. Being sent to the Hole didnt do much for anyone’s stability on post either! In truth, from around 2000 there was absolutely nobody that was stable on any post in International Management. If they hadn’t been officially busted by Miscavige, they were designated as “T/A” and/or all their juniors were publicly informed by Miscavige (usually in front of them) that they were “CI” or “SP” or “DB” or a sex pervert or a criminal or thief or incompetent or all of the above…. I have written a number of posts about how Miscavige completely unmocked international management. ANd because he cannot manage anything himself (his specialty is micromanagement) his only solution to maintaining the facade that Scientology is expanding is to buy shit. Thus the “Ideal Org” program. No management required. Just buy MEST and convince everyone it is evidence of “expansion.” Funny, someone sent me a photo of the utterly rundown, empty Buffalo “IDeal Org” the other day. And for years, Miscavige pounded in the “Buffalo pattern” as the model of his management expertize in action, to be duplicated in every org in the world. Well, he got that part done — now he has empty buildings everywhere, and most cannot afford to maintain the palaces they are in, nor pay the utilities bills.

    This despatch from him is a tiny microcosm of his “management” style. A dog’s breakfast is the model of order and sophistication by comparison.

    It sucks to be Miscavige (unless you are John Allender, then it sucks even worse to be sucking Miscavige).

  41. martyrathbun09

    for Acting and Temporary. He made every post at Int that status, so as to keep everyone constantly half-unmocked.

  42. ThetaPotata

    Makes me respect the day to day hell you guys were in for all those years. Kind of like that episode of the Twilight Zone where all the adults were tiptoeing around trying to appease this monster of a child who was “All Powerful.” I also find it interesting that speaking Scientologese seems to have different dialects and Int has it’s own.

  43. And I am the King of Siam now.

  44. Mr. David Miscavige is illiterate. It is apparent here, apparent at his events (where words are used because they SOUND good and not because they mean anything, a classic sign of an illiterate trying to impress), and apparent in the “Basics” where the editing that I have seen is just a dumbing down of the text rather than a real job of uncovering what LRH “really meant.”

    This is why real education is important. It is important to know the language, important to know what Scientology REALLY is, and important to understand the context of world in which we live. I never understood why some Scientologists refuse to read other sources, when Ron could never have developed the subject if he was just making the stuff up. People act like reading a viewpoint that differs from their own will pollute their thetan, or something. Jesus Christ! Part of confronting life is confronting those that are different, and granting beingness and getting in comm with them, and, God forbid, learning something!

    David Miscavige is a fake. He is a pretender. He has no idea what the cuss he is doing, and yet somehow people are still listening to him.

  45. I’ve seen your other posts on the subject, but somehow the “A/T” just blew my mind. It’s such a slap. I hope more of those people decide they’ve had enough.

  46. Maybe so, but “new papa of handsome young-un” cancels out “dodgy haircut” automatically. Just sayin’.

  47. 🙂 He gets his good looks from his mother….

  48. Aren’t his orders dictated? That was my impression when Marty said his utterances were recorded and exerted and dispatched as orders.

    This doesn’t mean David Miscavige is literate of course; if previous reports on this blog are correct he has difficulty stringing more than five words together to make sense verbally let alone producing meaningful prose. Nor does it mean the person recording them is barely literate, maybe they just did their best to faithfully reproduce his “utterances”, minus I suspect the erms, ahs and expletives.

  49. *exerted should read excerpted, I blame the spell checker.

  50. Well, okay – I’ll grant you that one! 😀

  51. Hey John (& Lynda),
    This is from yesterdays thread, But, since I know you’re here, I want to make sure you see this!

    Where were you when Mark Chambers, the course sup, was falling asleep in the KTL/LOC course room? Where were Lynda, Claudia & Christina, the tech terminals then when I tried to get ‘help’ for him? It was obvious he was not well, and I’ve learned since has dropped his body. Pathetic! As no one at St. Creek did anything to assist him. I know I went several times to Claudia & Christina & Lynda to no avail. Finally I wrote a KR (referencing KSW) and was called into ethics!
    Then there was Paul Faccero, a reg, who high BP, and asked for my help to get it down, as he was not getting any tech offered at St. Creek and he too died.
    Prior to that there was the then EO, Rene Chalepsky who had uterine cancer, she was given up by the staff at St. Creek and came to me for treatments (IV meds from Jim Keller, in Mexico). One day while on couse at the org, I ran into your wife Lynda and she said to me, “Rene’s going to die”. I was dumbfounded and turned to her and said, “not on my watch”! Mid-treatment Rene got pregnant, with Keller’s OK we continued treatment and she delivered a healthy boy. I hope she is well today.
    IF you’re the “Standard Tech Guy” then I tell you the same thing I told the DofP at Flag after GAT: then that means all the 100% Standard Tech that was supposed to be delivered, at orgs and especially Flag was a sham? No, I don’t buy it. And as I told my then DofP and I’ll tell you now-you and Flag are in a lower condition and you need to make up the damage, as what you’re doing is destructive. Too bad you’ve bought into the suppressive reasonableness of your egomaniacal leader. Your brand of tech is DM’s squirreled version, not LRH’s, as I’ve known LRH!
    And, I am sure if he’s around this sector of the universe he’s pushing power to Marty and us Indies.
    John I hope you too can see the light and come out of the darkness you reside in.
    ARC,
    Midge

  52. The Oracle

    ” You didn’t give me a report”
    ” there are 80 PLs to be fixed.
    ” There are books being corrected. ”
    ” To tell me that they won’t be able to get access to the Internet tells me nothing. ”
    ” Because I don’t know…”
    ” I don’t know that the plan is on it, which is not unusual.”
    ” I had a whole comm cycle with Sky Dayton and did not hear a single word from anybody in Int following that letter which was cc’ed to everybody.”

    Good Lord! He needs grade 2! Every other line is a ser fac!

  53. Thank you for your translation of this gobbledygook. My GG translator was not working at all on it.

  54. Much ado about nothin’

  55. Good observation O. Ser Facs and motivators are his stock in trade. I ran down the points of PAB 13 with regard to POB in a posting a year or so ago. It’s a fascinating exercise. Most people without knowledge of Scn fundamentals would call him a whiny bitch. That’s pretty apt too….

  56. Ronnie
    “Ok, I read each sentence twice as I was going through that – backing up and re-reading some sentences three times, and I still can hardly make heads or tails of what this despatch is supposed to be communicating. Perhaps more context is needed.”

    il·lit·er·ate
    adj \(ˌ)i(l)-ˈli-t(ə-)rət\
    Definition of ILLITERATE
    1
    : having little or no education; especially : unable to read or write
    2
    a : showing or marked by a lack of familiarity with language and literature b : violating approved patterns of speaking or writing
    3
    : showing or marked by a lack of acquaintance with the fundamentals of a particular field of knowledge

    Remember the old KTL posters?
    There was one where a big, 1.5 honcho said, “keep ’em igerant!”
    Well, that’s our boy.
    Dumber than a 3 day old dog turd on the sidewalk in Texas, in August.

  57. Perfect way to keep everybody in confusion…

  58. Your humble servant

    The ravings of an obvious madman. This one sentence tells it all: “For instance, there are 80 PLs to be fixed.” This lying hypocrite, who pretends to be “for Scientology” and “for LRH” and “keeping the subject pure and unaltered” has so little respect for the man and the subject that he openly states that Ron’s Policy Letters need “to be fixed.” Treason to LRH and treason to the subject. Anyone is free to disagree with Ron’s PL’s, but to alter them and pretend that Ron said one thing when he really said another is so far beneath contemptible I wouldn’t know how to describe it. If Ron were here, I imagine that just that one sentence alone would have gotten Miscavige offloaded out of the S.O. He never would have dared to say that if Ron were around. Of course, he never could have done the re-written books “basics” campaign or created the golden age of altered tech either.

  59. Miscavige might want to dig out the Key To Life course. If there was ever a person in dire need of precisely that course, it’s him.

  60. Russ, me too!! I don’t get it. I mean I DO get it. COB talked to Sky Dayton. He’s important. REAL important. More than those stupid cronies.

    I can’t wait for the redacted 80 PLs. Maybe he’ll change Simon Bolivar to David Miscavigar, the way it should have been.

  61. Claudio Lugli

    He (beside all 100.000 dramatizations) is totally dramatizing this:

    “Simply stated I found that WHERE VITAL INFORMATION WAS NOT BEING RELAYED OR WAS HIDDEN OR FALSIFIED, THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE WERE DRAMATIZING WITHHOLDS.
    You can see this in newspapers, government policies, the medical profession, psychiatry, economics and especially education.
    I have for years tried to get to the bottom of why people will not teach people. It is the single greatest fault in existing culture in my opinion.
    The answer that fits all cases is a failure to relay information, brief, instruct, train or supervise stemming from a general past and current OVERT OF WITHHOLDING VITAL INFORMATION. This gives a dramatization in daily conduct of failing to relay information, brief, instruct, train or supervise.
    And underlying that is the intentional impulse to do so overtly or covertly in a mistaken attempt to forward their own first dynamic.
    HCO BULLETIN OF 6 OCTOBER 1974
    The Vital Information Rundown

    Is funny that yesterday INDIPENDOLOGO in Italy published a post on this very subject!! It is this exact situation and would be really fantastic watching an auditor running that Rd on DM
    1. Clear and assess:
    VITAL DATA _________
    THE TRUTH _________
    VITAL INFORMATION _________
    KNOWLEDGE _________
    Choose the best read as the item.
    2. a) L&N “What would happen if you communicated_______?”
    b) R3R Quad
    3. a) L&N “What problem have you had with_______?”
    b) R3R Quad
    4. a) Clear and assess:
    Withholding (item) under duress. _________
    Withholding (item) under torture. _________
    Withholding (item) to protect someone. _________
    b) R3R Quad
    5. a) Clear all words plus fully clear each outpoint with examples and demos so
    it’s understood.
    b) Assess:
    Omitted (item). _________
    Altered the sequence of (item). _________
    Dropped time out of (item). _________
    Added falsehoods to (item). _________
    Altered the importance of (item). _________
    Used (item) to wrong tgt. _________
    Assigned the wrong source for (item).
    Made (item) a contrary fact. _________
    Added time to the relay of (item). _________
    Added inapplicable data to (item). _________
    Incorrectly included other data with (item). _________
    Complicated (item). _________
    Suppressed (item). _________
    In order of reads:
    c) R3R Quad
    Locate a time when another ______to/for/from (pick which) you.
    Locate a time when you______to/for/from another.
    Locate a time when another______to/for/from another.
    d) L&N “What would be the intention of someone who______?”
    e) R3R Quad the intention.
    6. a) Assess: Concerning (item) has there been a break in
    Affinity _________
    Reality _________
    Communication _________
    Understanding _________
    b) R3R Quad the largest read.
    c) Reassess ARCU and handle to F/Ning assessment.
    7. a) Clear all words, especially assumption and justify and withholding (in the
    broad sense).
    b) L&N “What assumption would justify withholding (item) ?”
    c) R3R Quad the computation.
    8. R3R Quad all E. Purps that came up during the RD.
    9. R3R Quad all computations that came up during the RD.

    http://indipendologo.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/trattenere-informazioni-vitali/

  62. Who is “everybody” ? Everyone at Int, SO members? scientologists, everybody concerned? wow! Did everybody get this? He didn’t sent one to me 🙂

  63. morelivesthanacat

    And he wouldn’t have abolished LRH ED 339R, The Birthday Game
    Or created the IAS and amassed over a billion dollars while crush regging direct donations for nothing in exchange
    Or created glittering multi-million dollar org buildings funded entirely by fundraising
    Or dismantled CSI, RTC, CMO I (and IMEC) WDC, CMO GOLD, FB, the CLOs…
    Or removed all Int Execs from post/declared Int Execs, the executor of LRH’s estate and the President of the Church (and imprison them), bust, declare, RPF and/or off-load hundreds of other veteran Sea Org members who worked with LRH,
    Or institute Group Confessionals,
    Or ridicule staff and execs by announcing their supposed transgressions from confessionals to mandatory Int base musters,
    Or delay by over 30 years the release of Super Power FOR STAFF (it was meant for staff, not public)
    Or alter the Bridge by subverting the Grades, Clear and the OT levels
    Or in any way practice C/Sing with no certificates
    Or amass a personal fortune
    Or build a 40 million dollar RTC office that is as empty as the Ideal Orgs
    Or disappear his wife Shelly, one of LRH’s most trusted Messengers
    And various other LRH trained messengers, tech terminals and administrators despatched by various means
    Or allowed veteran Sea Org members to die without family knowing
    Or, after years of suppression allowing Mary Sue’s death to be withheld and unannounced
    Or enforcing divorces,
    Or enforcing mass disconnections breaking up thousands of families….

    Hell, I don’t have time for this. Gotta get back to work.

  64. Oops, I didn’t notice this was 2003. I think that’s because Dave’s words are timeless. Sort of like Action Phrases and Engrammic Commands. There they sit, with Dave, stuck in the silence and no motion of “close-but-no-cigar” thetan-ness. An idea in MEST. Mistaken, misconceived, mis…etc., etc.

  65. There you go, bingo and spot-on. “The Responsibilities of Chairmen.” Miscavige, Mao…

  66. Good question!

    He maaaay have been referring to every person at the base who he hadn’t personally declared suppressive. (Comes to roughly 2 1/2 percent of the total base population, oddly enough.)

    Or perhaps it’s those he’s certain are out to get him.

  67. E.J. Croughs

    misapplied, misdirected, misunderstood, missed….. miscaviged.

  68. Out-point on this one is: “Wrong Source!”

  69. Goobity gook… but the part that makes my eyes sting is,
    “For instance, there are 80 PLs to be fixed”
    Nothing worse than then stinkin broken PLs messing things up hey Dave?

  70. Jetero and the Countas Kat

    Claudio, that was brilliant. That ought to crack his case – but good. I just wonder if an auditor could drag him in session strap to his chair long enough to get through that program. We would have to be there to stop him from beating up his auditor for asking questions so personal.

    I can really see why it sucks to be Miscavige.

  71. Gary Morehead. Aka Jackson

    And people wonder who’s
    responsible for the turd floating in the pool?!!!!

    –Jackson

  72. The Oracle

    Laughter!

  73. Ronnie Bell

    Just saw this on another forum, and thought it might be of some use in this conversation:

    Symptom list for Psychopathy – Robert Hare

    (Versons of this list are standard in psychology for psychopathic/anti-social personality disorder)

    A person needn’t demonstrate all of the following to be a psychopath, but the more of these attributes a person has, the more likely they are to be an anti-social or psychopath.

    Hare’s Checklist

    1. GLIB and SUPERFICIAL CHARM — the tendency to be smooth, engaging, charming, slick, and verbally facile. Psychopathic charm is not in the least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything. A psychopath never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from the social conventions about taking turns in talking, for example..

    2. GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH — a grossly inflated view of one’s abilities and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart. Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human beings.

    3. NEED FOR STIMULATION or PRONENESS TO BOREDOM — an excessive need for novel, thrilling, and exciting stimulation; taking chances and doing things that are risky. Psychopaths often have a low self-discipline in carrying tasks through to completion because they get bored easily. They fail to work at the same job for any length of time, for example, or to finish tasks that they consider dull or routine.

    4. PATHOLOGICAL LYING — can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative, and dishonest.

    5. CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS- the use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one’s victims.

    6. LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT — a lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, coldhearted, and unempathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one’s victims.

    7. SHALLOW AFFECT — emotional poverty or a limited range or depth of feelings; interpersonal coldness in spite of signs of open gregariousness.

    8. CALLOUSNESS and LACK OF EMPATHY — a lack of feelings toward people in general; cold, contemptuous, inconsiderate, and tactless.

    9. PARASITIC LIFESTYLE — an intentional, manipulative, selfish, and exploitative financial dependence on others as reflected in a lack of motivation, low self-discipline, and inability to begin or complete responsibilities.

    10. POOR BEHAVIORAL CONTROLS — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper; acting hastily.

    11. PROMISCUOUS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR — a variety of brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs, and an indiscriminate selection of sexual partners; the maintenance of several relationships at the same time; a history of attempts to sexually coerce others into sexual activity or taking great pride at discussing sexual exploits or conquests.

    12. EARLY BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS — a variety of behaviors prior to age 13, including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running away from home.

    13. LACK OF REALISTIC, LONG-TERM GOALS — an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals; a nomadic existence, aimless, lacking direction in life.

    14. IMPULSIVITY — the occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation, frustrations, and urges; a lack of deliberation without considering the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic, and reckless.

    15. IRRESPONSIBILITY — repeated failure to fulfill or honor obligations and commitments; such as not paying bills, defaulting on loans, performing sloppy work, being absent or late to work, failing to honor contractual agreements.

    16. FAILURE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OWN ACTIONS — a failure to accept responsibility for one’s actions reflected in low conscientiousness, an absence of dutifulness, antagonistic manipulation, denial of responsibility, and an effort to manipulate others through this denial.

    17. MANY SHORT-TERM MARITAL RELATIONSHIPS — a lack of commitment to a long-term relationship reflected in inconsistent, undependable, and unreliable commitments in life, including marital.

    18. JUVENILE DELINQUENCY — behavior problems between the ages of 13-18; mostly behaviors that are crimes or clearly involve aspects of antagonism, exploitation, aggression, manipulation, or a callous, ruthless tough-mindedness.

    19. REVOCATION OF CONDITION RELEASE — a revocation of probation or other conditional release due to technical violations, such as carelessness, low deliberation, or failing to appear.

    20. CRIMINAL VERSATILITY — a diversity of types of criminal offenses, regardless if the person has been arrested or convicted for them; taking great pride at getting away with crimes.

  74. Alex Castillo (What LRH intended for us to see)

    Marty, Mike and all friends here:

    I know this is a bit off topic(however relevant in the end), but the truth from my heart is that I am bursting with intent to share what LRH’s Dianetics and Scientology can do for people, i.e. what it did for me, If you would please bear with me, let me tell you:

    Long time ago in 1970, after being at the receiving end of LRH’s training and processing as a Sea Org Member-I was never paying public), I came to the realization that I was a Static, an immortal being with a very long history behind me (and the same for every other human being on this planet). I realized that the Static’s basic qualities are: Compassion, Understating, Love, Wisdom, to name a few; and from there on my life was dedicated to serving the Human Race, to help spread the Tech of Scientology throughout the world and the Universe through the ages into as many lifetimes as necessary. To me, a grown man who had previously experienced the roughness that life can dish out to people, it was the answer. It was the ultimate solution to human suffering and aberration, the methods to liberate humans from the chains of ignorance, crime, insanity and war.

    I remember the day when I was sent to do my SO training at the Excalibur (a Sea Org training ship in LA). Static or not I was terrified of the idea because I did not speak English and I didn’t know how I was going to get through the LRH Intro to the Sea Org tapes (5 I think). I remember having to repeat Tape One more than twice because I could’t understand LRH’s words and then, miraculously and suddenly on the the third try, I started to understand what the Old Man was saying! After that, it was all plain sailing, I finished my product 0 and walked away with a Cert that said I was a Power DPFer (Deck Project Force graduate) and it made mention that I had “broken the language barrier”). At that point I had even more certainty of who and what I was. I so I went on doing my best to help expand Scientology for the next 11 years, working as an Evaluator at the Flag Management Bu, having had yet another shot of LRH’s work, the magnificent Data Series Evaluators Course.

    I guess what I am trying to say here is that considering what and who we are, David Miscavige’s insane, evil actions can ultimately do us no harm. From where I stand, he is IRRELEVANT and Auditors can carry on delivering the same LRH Tech that made me realize who and what I was. No problem there. His criminal acts against society should by all means be denounced and if possible he should be brought to justice but, outside of that, he is just one of the most seriously aberrated mo..f..ckers
    who make life difficult for decent, honest people. Said with all the kindness I can muster right now.

    And I am reminded of some piece of data that has lived with me for the past 30 years: “A problem that has no solution is not a problem”.

    To end my rant, I would like to say that I am so sorry I won’t have the chance to meet you all at the 4th of July party. I dream of it but I am a realist and I see it as an impossible dream. But I will be there in spirit, perhaps dancing La Bamba and passing around the bottle of Tequila Cuervo:)).

    Your Static friend,

    Alex

  75. That’s a hell of impressive a list of Suppressive Acts, that would make up the “Comm Ev of the Century”. Since he does not have any “peers”,( because he got rid of them all), the top 4 “Sp’s” he declared would be wise ones to be on the Committee.

  76. (This is a re-posted response to Windhorse, to his posting in an earlier thread – I wanted to make sure to get the comm to him – no intention to divert the thread. Thanks.)

    Hi Windhorse,

    I love your posts and your spirit. Thank you.

    I think your idea regarding getting together a group of the “disconnected” is very good. As to what to do with that group, whether to bring a suit against Miscavige for breaking up their families, etc., or some other action:

    Perhaps the key concept in these situations is:

    – Asymmetrical Warfare –

    It’s a fancy term, but simple: you only engage in symmetrical warfare when you have a clear upper hand. So, the U.S. brings tanks, bombs, etc. to Vietnam. The North Vietnamese commander, General Gap, a strategy genius (no matter his politics), does not respond symmetrically, that is, with tanks and bombs. He responds asymmetrically, with guerrilla forces, and defeats the greatest conventional military power on the planet.

    Said another way, you don’t play the other guy’s game, unless you are way better at it than him.

    So, in the situation you describe, what is the Miscavige Administration good at? Well, other than the colossal footnuke of suing Debbie Cook, they are pretty good at litigation, if only because litigation is, in good part, a game of money and they have lots of money.

    In the civil rights movement, we had to face this situation many times – out gunned legally, by much wealthier forces, who often controlled the courts. So, we responded asymmetrically (and, when we did litigate, it was also asymmetrically, e.g. in courts that were not controlled by the oppressors).

    The success of the civil rights movement was a direct result of extensive hatting and drilling, which matches what LRH says on the vital necessity of hatting. Others have been down this road and we can benefit from learning their successful actions. This is an excellent work: The Methods of Nonviolent Action. 348 pp., June 1973. ISBN 978-0-87558-071-5

    There is a huge amount of effective technology in this area. Gene Sharp has written it up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Sharp

    Best wishes,
    James

  77. That sums it up nicely. Thanks, Ronnie.

    James

  78. one of those who see

    LOL!!!!!! Perfect!

  79. Poor writing skills absolutely, but there is something more basic than poor writing skills behind this communication. The author lacks a cohesive thought process. Even with Marty’s translation of this Martian dialect, there seems to be something seriously lacking in his cognitive ability.

    Amazing how this differs from the prose at events. No wonder he keeps the biographer around, otherwise he’d sound like an idiot desperately attempting to sound intelligent.

  80. Tom Gallagher

    Note to POB:

    Although I don’t fully agree with the following science, I think most folks will agree with the conclusion:

    “We all sprang from apes, but you didn’t spring far enough.”

    By the way, COB is an acronym for Chimp Or Baboon.

  81. Rory Medford

    If you read Science of Survival and you look at the tone scale and chracteristics of a suppressive person, DM has many and he follows the 1.1 scale to the letter.

  82. Captain Bob

    yes Russ, it makes perfect sense. After a 5th of Scotch. He perfectly understands himself. And when doing the M9 after having had a fifth of Scotch, you too will understand.

    Or, on the other hand, it could be hangover speak.

  83. Ronnie Bell

    {{{ Resonating with you }}}

  84. Ronnie Bell

    No doubt about it. Dave most definitely speaks English as a second language. I think his native tongue is the Vulgar dialect of Gibberish, with a psychotic accent.

  85. James: In a nutshell — I think you are probably right about handling dm in a different way than legal … my friend and I touched on it briefly and he wasn’t interested being more interested in his “new” life and not becoming embroiled with the dm machine.

    I’ll check up on your references. I am still eager to do what I can to see families ripped apart brought back together.

    I definitely need to work on my feminine voice as you aren’t the first one to call me — he …

    Love,
    WH

  86. Ronnie Bell

    Wouldn’t we all love to see that. Barring that, I’ll settle for seeing him in a courtroom, wearing an orange jump suit, with handcuffs on.

  87. Captain Bob

    unfortunately the “paying public” never hear about these A/T’s at International Management. I believe it would raise some eyebrows if they found out, like what do you mean acting temporary? I thought you guys at Int know what you are doing? Why so many transfers at Int Management? And who is the A/T, what is his training and case level? What is his experience as an auditor, an auditor being somebody who knows how to get case gain on another, that would be going up the bridge.

    What does LRH say, never drop curtains.

  88. Rory Medford

    COB= Cult of Bullshit

  89. Ronnie Bell

    I saw we just let Miscavige keep digging that hole in the ground.

    As predicted by LRH, he’s doing himself in nicely, and needs no help from us. In lieu of blowing the scene himself, he’s forcing all of the real OTs, upstats, and brave hearts to be forcibly ejected from the group, which of course will eventually result in a ghost town of international scale.

    Meanwhile, the real group will have already reformed outside his castle walls – having left him to finish burying himself in the courtyard.

  90. Captain Bob

    sorry I disagree Tara. Perfect way to be “never found out” and connect the dots.

  91. “otherwise he’d sound like an idiot desperately attempting to sound intelligent.”
    … frankly, annhowe, I think that is exactly how he does sound at the events.

  92. Your humble servant

    True that. What a list!

  93. Captain Bob

    well actually you’re right Tara. Keep everybody in a confusion so they can never connect the dots. He does it with the public too now.

    DM thoughts and know best ————

    Go here, do that, come back, what are you doing, I told you this.

    Go up the bridge, sorry, you must re-do your objectives, you’re not in PT.
    You must re-do OT7, you didn’t get it. To pass go you must pay every 6 months for sec checks to make sure we ( that means I DM know you are not seeking the truth via research on the internet, we, I mean I must hide these things from you).

    Clear are you?, I don’t think so, back down you go to get some more auditing.

    Trained auditor are you? I don’t think so, you are the blind leading the blind. You must retrain or else your certs will be cancelled. We now have the Golden Age of Tech. What you think I’m wrong, you are an SP.

    The books had mistakes, I fixed them, I mean we did, yes the A/T International Management.

  94. Captain Bob

    Midge,

    John and Lynda really think they are helping to “clear the planet”. They really think this. All they have to do is to just look around, just look around their neighborhood, their city, their state, their country, other countries. And just look at how they think they are helping to clear the planet. There are so many people and so many that do not care. John and Lynda just need to ask themselves honestly is the path of the current COS going to do this, clear the planet?

    These two just need to ask themselves, it’s a stat thing, how much money they have spent in the DM run COS to get up the bridge? They need to ask themselves if they spent that amount of money and time, how will others get up the bridge, the wogs? Is it possible for others working a job to get up the bridge thereby giving us a cleared planet?

  95. Alex, wonderful.

  96. Captain Bob

    would like to see where it’s written, the guy was hand picked.

    You see when you enter into the church after 1986, after reading dianetics and other books, one doesn’t know such things. It’s all ethical, so you assume, they are up bridge, so you assume. In fact all one knows is he got some auditing, had some wins and continued. And continued, and continued. And as long as one has wins, he continues (you can only be upbraided for no results). But as he continues and learns more about the tech, and continues, and he see’s some outpoints, but whatever no big deal. And he continues, and has some wins and wants to help as he reads and learns more, and wants to help his family and friends. But the pressure to help expand goes up and up, and he can be made wrong if he doesn’t help enough. And so he steels himself, because he is trying to help, but the money part is a lot. If only I get up the bridge, I can really help. So he continues. And he see’s more outpoints, afterall he learned about them. But the system is now set-up that you can communicate about them outpoints, but nothing really happens, so he thinks it’s no big deal and maybe I’m wrong.

    And then one day, he seeks more truth. And maybe a friend communicates I think something is wrong. And communicates it is up to us who noticed something is wrong, that we should speak out. But the people that speak out, their communication never gets heard to many people, it’s all a secret. But somehow, it leaks out. And somehow more and more people realize something is wrong.

  97. The Oracle

    I am starting to agree Ronnie. For a long time I thought this was a qual cycle and if DM would leave things could be sorted out. But by whom, I ask myself now. Everyone up at Int available to move forward and take over, has already done everything they can do to keep Miscavige there , protect him, obey him, and support his efforts. Those kind of people are not worthy to take over seeing as how they have contributed to making the current scene and were not able to solve the problem or rise above it.

    I am also awakening to the fact that Miscavige actually is just a bypassed case and not very intelligent. That makes him very ordinary. That the CMO has faithfully and doggedly protected him, obeyed him, and surrendered to him, is a reality adjustment. I have overestimated too many people in management. In the end, a small clique of uneducated, unexperienced, not too bright, little kids in aging bodies that did not have the scope, intelligence, experience, courage, know how, dedication or intelligence for the jobs they snatched. And I think that is just how Miscavige likes it.

    Either way, the lot of us have taken a higher road and whatever is laying down there on the low road is becoming less and less wanted and needed
    by society and Scientologists who really did make it.

    I guess I am finally agreeing, that that isn’t going to be fixed.

  98. Colorwheel

    Is he really that illiterate and illogical in his “orders”? Wow. No wonder Sherman writes for him.

  99. Jean-François Genest

    🙂 “blaming MEST is effect, isn’t it?”

  100. Sapere Aude

    Alex – Thank you for what you have done and are doing. I too came into the SO during this same time period. I believe most of those following this blog have total certainty on the basic truths to be found in the writings of LRH.

    Another piece of data that I always keep in mind is that the solution to the why is always doable within the existing resources. Thus, the solution to DM is within the resources of the indie field, and steps along this activity are occurring daily. I am as certain of the outcome at the end of this endeavor as I am that the sun shall rise again tomorrow morn.

    The gift of the tech, its application, and the win’s that shall follow will be freed of the shackles that we temporarily perceive. Why, and how, do I know this with certainty? Because we are step by step forwarding a line of TRUTH, and the truth and honest data communicated adequately has no barrier. As the being is basically good, then we know that the truth to help them shall in the end be seen for just that.

    As far as I am concerned you have earned the right to “rant” whenever you wish. Until then my friend enjoy the clink of the glass. cheers.

  101. The Oracle

    Off Topic but curious if anyone has any data on this.

    Basics.

    When this whole basics with the books came about I just asked myself what problem Miscavige was trying to solve with this book drama.

    I figured the copyrights had finally expired on the L.R.H. books and it was a solution to hang onto and control recopyright the tech. When people were ordered to burn their original books I grew very suspicious. What solution was that for?

    Have the copyrights expired on the tech? Has the Scientology fallen into public domain? Does anybody know? Does anybody here have any data on this?

    Thanks for any light shed on this mystery.

  102. Captain Bob

    man, I got it, what you said. I just put myself in your position, mocked it up in mental image pictures of what it would be like in the room with DM being there, and your scene, I was just trying to be you, there in your shoes, in a mock up via mental image form, or putting myself in your shoes. that is afterall communication, duplicate the scene not just via words..
    Oh boy.

    I am thankful for you getting out of the SO, under DM SO. And for speaking. You have connected dots. Lessened the confusion from a person who forwards confusions.

  103. Grade 2 is O/W’s. Grade 4 is Ser Fac’s.

  104. “A/T” in front of the post names was the thing that first caught my attention as I knew what it means. That alone confirms everything Marty, Mike or others have ever said about Miscavige destroying International Management. Another nice foot bullet Dave: Convicted by your own screwy memo. (as well as 1,000’s of your other screwy things.)

  105. Captain Bob

    oracle,

    “I guess I am finally agreeing, that that isn’t going to be fixed.”

    I agree. there is no way the church can be fixed from within. How can it be? There is nobody there who can fix it. Per DM’s plan, he got rid of true scientologists, and he has reversed scientology on anybody there. Unfortunately those people there are trapped. And there is no way to reach them, they have no communication from the outside world. And if they do, it is limited to what is be heard, and not what is to be evaluated by the individual, they are told what to think or not think. Those people in the SO think they are clearing the planet for the good of mankind all at the expense of their own dynamics. They just don’t see it, but some escape.

    So here we are. I am not communicating to you , as you see and know. I am communicating to others here who may be in doubt. So I ask you to seek the timeline, to seek your own wins & loses, and to seek your own truths.

    What you consider is what you consider. If you consider your old car that runs well, to be good, then that is what you consideration. If you believe the ads on TV that tells you to turn in your old car for a nice new car because your old car is bad, and go into debt for it for 5 years, then consider it as your consideration or somebody else’s consideration that you accepted.

  106. Captain Bob

    lets see, there a few billion people in China. EXCUSE ME DM, they all work for peanuts. How are you going to CLEAR China?

  107. Captain Bob

    John and Lynda, you are hereby ordered to China to help Clear them and get them up the bridge. Make it so!

  108. Grasshopper: +10,000,000,000. My thoughts precisely. It’s baffling to me why people still listen to him. But hindsight is 20/20 I guess. I used to listen to him. ( Yuk. ) Kind of makes one want to dedicate themselves to exposing Miscavige. It’s enlightening at least as to what Marty, Mike and others must have went through in making the pro-survival decisions they made in order to arrive at where they are at today. And thus things are now better for all.

  109. Simon’s haircut has been compared to a “loo brush” in britspeak (“toilet bowl brush” for you gringos).

  110. Ya think?

  111. Exactly, Captain Bob.

  112. Christie,

    You’ve perfectly described our dear T.O.I (Tornado Of Insanity)! It’s a really great example of chaos in action.

    Gary (still carrying torches for slappy) 🙂

  113. Don’t know, Oracle. And yes, it was off topic. And speaking of off topic, lets inject a little theta here…

  114. Ronnie Bell

    For a long time I thought this was a qual cycle and if DM would leave things could be sorted out. But by whom, I ask myself now. Everyone up at Int available to move forward and take over, has already done everything they can do to keep Miscavige there , protect him, obey him, and support his efforts. Those kind of people are not worthy to take over seeing as how they have contributed to making the current scene and were not able to solve the problem or rise above it.

    There’s no denying that what you say is true. Another truth, is that the people with the right sort of stuff to stop the madman, were astutely spotted, marginalized, isolated, and frozen in place, so that he could beat each one of them down into submission. One by one, he neutralized them all, in order to protect himself.

    What he didn’t count on, and the thing that will prove to be his greatest downfall, is that those he banished are the ones who Do Not Give Up. Whether by their own determinism, or his, most of them are now free of his domination and control, and are stridently pushing forward the actual goals of Scientology, beyond the reach of his interference.

    It’s almost as though Miscavige shot them from cannons, to land in a thousand different places, where they could sprout and grow into new and flourishing organizations of their own. Ironically, he freed the most able and worthy members of the group to go forth and spread the word.

    Think about it. Instead of utterly destroying these good people, as he intended, he ensured their infinite multiplication.

  115. Ronnie Bell

    I just about laughed out loud when the first staff member suggested that I destroy my old books. I kept it in check, though, and simply declined the invitation to destroy my personal property.

    Thank goodness I did.

  116. Simple Thetan

    Not me. Since the day I got to Scientology, I saw him as a useless thug. At the local Orgs, some of us continued to just follow LRH until GAT. Then it became impossible.

  117. 21. Slappy Syndrome — pretending to help a person only to end up slapping them in the face instead. As demonstrated by David Miscavige.

  118. Simple Thetan

    You are right, it sucks to be Miscavige. He is the most unhappy person I have EVER known. The sad part is that he doesn’t begin to even fathom what awaits him next life time. I have seen the likes of him in the next life time. Not a pretty sight. And then he will not have all the MEST around to “compensate”.

  119. Simple Thetan

    Thank you Alex.

  120. I agree. He’s 1.1.

  121. Ronnie Bell observed, “It’s almost as though Miscavige shot them from cannons, to land in a thousand different places, where they could sprout and grow into new and flourishing organizations of their own. Ironically, he freed the most able and worthy members of the group to go forth and spread the word.”

    Great metaphor. Great postulate.

    Revenimus!

  122. Good duplication Captain Bob.

  123. E.J. Croughs

    Receiving auditing while being PTS is a crime, which makes the auditor giving it an accessary.

  124. Perfect duplication Captain Bob.

  125. Marty,
    Please post more of these DMented dispatches from time to time if you have more of them.
    They are not fun to read, as they require us to step into the mind of a suppressive lunatic (Miscavige’s) and look at the world through his eyes. This is not necessarily the most pleasant way to spend a Friday evening. But these Miscavige dispatches do repeatedly indicate and illustrate the “WHO”, who has been causing the religion of Scientology to stop expanding for 2 or three decades. These repeated examples are important, because it is far easier to FIGURE OUT facts like this than it is to CONFRONT them. Miscavige’s behavior and actions are just so evil that it is hard to believe that people stand for it.
    ….of course that would be many of us in the not-too-distant past, so please keep the examples out here in the disinfecting sunlight for all to see, duplicate, and understand.
    By the way, while I see nothing wrong and everything right about using disparaging monikers for Miscavige (POB, etc), I keep using his real name for a reason. A while back someone pointed out that this will result in directing more people who Google the word, “Miscavige” to this blog. So in closing, let me just say: Miscavige Miscavige Miscavige Miscavige Miscavige Miscavige Miscavige Miscavige Miscavige Miscavige Miscavige Miscavige Miscavige Miscavige Miscavige Miscavige ! 🙂

  126. This REALLY got to me too, like others. Acting and temporary. What a CROCK. I guess sometimes the whole picture – i.e. that this monster is a raving whole track lunatic is sometimes just too much to take in, it’s just TOO big. But making all of Int Management “T/A” is a small chunk to look at, a confrontable little piece of suppression and makes you realise this is just EVIL, EVIL, EVIL. Ironically David Miscavige, you jumped up little pipsqueak, you can’t even claim to “T/A” of ANYTHING! You’re not even the T/A COB – there’s no such position. You are the T/A of NOTHING.

  127. Yeah, thank heaven there’s Dave to explain what LRH really meant.

  128. You’re a good man Alex, and it would be an honour to meet you one day.

  129. Just to clarify: DM did not write that despatch. He doesn’t write anything. (And when he does it is almost utterly undecipherable. Occasionally he would make notes or edits to submissions of something like the WIS? book chapters or speeches or something and it would take a team of experts like ED Int and CO CMO Int who had been dealing with his handwriting for years to make the best stab–I am not kidding here, folks.) As I said, DM writes nothing. He dictates everything and his flunk–er, secretaries, type it up. I am sure that one day these will be inscribed on nickel plates and safely packed away in titanium capsules in a mountain hideaway.

    I wish people could see just one transcript of a meeting with DM to get a sense of the quality of “communication” that emanates from the leader of the church. It is strictly Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride. It is another way of how he keeps everyone in his environment slightly off balance all the time. Imagine that coming at you at maybe 200 words a minute (DM speaks very rapidly since there is no logic or grammar filter between his reactive mind and his mouth) in a meeting on something important to do with your post. To be followed by a question directed at you about something he said that is so convoluted that you aren’t sure you understood. Ladies and gentlemen, meet Pie Face.

  130. Sunshine Disinfects

    “Think about it. Instead of utterly destroying these good people, as he intended, he ensured their infinite multiplication.”

    Now that REALLY keys me out!! We are scattered EVERYWHERE. Woo Hoo!

  131. The Oracle

    Bruno Mars fan here . Thank you for sharing.

    Also promoting Lloyd. On par with Bruno. A better dance tune and I will send you tickets when he hits Las Vegas! This video took 14 months to produce~!

    Theta Theta Theta!!!!!!!!!!!!

  132. The Oracle

    Final product:

  133. The Oracle

    Some words edited.

  134. Li'll bit of stuff

    Yup, and barring that, let’s see, there’s a seldom
    socially used human rejection response ; puking!
    It’s an involuntary reaction to something the body
    regards as toxic or poisonous or disagreeable!
    We are all familiar with that reaction of nausea,
    when in proximity to that objectional substance.
    In line with this dude’s equally disgusting ploys
    in destroying people’s lives with toxic outpourings,
    may I suggest one massive road tanker full to
    capacity of human puke and other foul smelling
    excretions, be delivered to his “GOLD” base
    and returned as a consignment of thoroughly
    rejected “goods” based on consumer protection
    rights. All costs to be borne by the consignee.

  135. Li'll bit of stuff

    Ronnie, reminder, we don’t have to keep it “clean”
    to be acceptable, just GREEN! ( green power! yess!)

  136. Tom, I am reporting you to the Chimp and Baboon Anti-Defamation League!

  137. Li'll bit of stuff

    Alex, always so very liberating to read your beautiful
    posts. You are are “bursting” because you are just
    so full!! ( of ARC )
    Thank you , Maestro
    Timeless ARC,……………..Li’ll bit

  138. Got caught by that too, think I scrolled past the 2003 date straight to the March event.

  139. Gern Gaschoen

    I was on an SO post with Foster Tomkins for a few years in my Int experience.

    We knew, in the 70’s and early 80’s, that there was going to be a global computer network connecting humanity. LRH had described it in some of his conversations with Foster and others about the subject of Computerization, as “theta on a wire”. It wasn’t just a ‘discovery’ of LRH and the SO mission, more an observation that computers would take over.

    For there to be any stupidity in the Exec Strat on the subject of the Internet means only one thing: TOTAL SQUIRREL, SP DECLARE.

  140. Yeah, it’s the same impression I get. I’d be surprised if he’s actually done KTL and equally shocked and disgusted if he hasn’t. It really beggars belief either way.

  141. Gern Gaschoen

    I am dismally saddened to have lost my library, not by Squirrel ranting but just by MEST having a big Space component regarding the actual location of the books. I had a great collection. I can’t quite believe it’d be so hard to buy a new copy of Typewriter in the Sky right now, I’d be so tickled to have my old copy back.

  142. Gern Gaschoen

    Just the fact that we have to ask ourselves the question “what are the Leaders of Scientologys’ Statistics?” and not have a green-on-white answer is enough for me.

    DM, if you read this: post your full stats for the duration of your COB’ness, or get off the post. That is an order.

  143. miscavigeisscaredofsam

    Real Translation:
    People continue to leave my cult in droves and are accusing me of being a total charlatan despite all my best efforts to intimidate them.
    My carefully constructed retirement plan is in the toilet and I don’t have an exit strategy figured out yet.
    I thought taking out this Hubbard guy would solve all my problems but people just won’t wake up to the fact that I am right and he is wrong. Posting his ramblings on the internet will only exacerbate the problem as there are too many fools out there who insist on continuing to follow his old no-longer used anymore outdated materials in preference to my far superior creations.
    STALL!!!

  144. Nope Jackson. I aint wondering about that stinking, foul, rancid, evil turd. There is no question in my mind who it came from. He lives in Villas, surrounded by razor-wire, security guards and his own reactive mind. And he is going crazier by the day.
    This despatch is from 11 years ago.
    OMG.
    I dread to see one from this year…

  145. I said I needed my old books for FDS. If there was anything wrong about the original books, so I want to sort it out, I said.
    This made sense to the staff member.

  146. I didn’t understand any ideas he was trying to communicate. So I didn0t read the translation.
    It makes sense that staffs are so confused.
    No clear communication letting everybody wondering about what they got to do.

  147. Now that’s some funk with krunk!

  148. Li'll bit of stuff

    Hey Oracle, I sent you some E-mail stuff about 2wks
    back and got your auto-response telling me that your
    calendar year had closed. Still a valid reply??
    On the more creative theta line— wat’cha think of
    American Idols contender…Joshua Ledet.. singin’
    ” If you don’t know me by now ” ???

  149. Ahhh, Thanks, Cap’n! NOW I see why so much of all that M9ing I did on his stuff didn’t result in much understanding – omitted Scotch!! The Examiner would’ve needed a fifth or two, too – to be able to “see” the elusive “3-swing F/N” after those Method 9 Gobbledygook Clearing sessions.

  150. I can guarantee you that Miscavige has not gotten the E.P. of the KTL clay table processing in addition to not having the ability gained by doing the course.

  151. Hi Marty,
    And need us not forget this part:

    “TO: A/T/CO CMO INT”
    AND LET ME REMIND YOU THAT YOU ARE ONLY ACTING/TEMPORARY CO CMO INT, WHICH MEANS IF I’M IN A PARTICULARLY FOUL MOOD WHEN I SEE YOU NEXT, OR IF I DO NOT LIKE YOUR ANSWER, OR IF THE WIND BLOWS IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, YOU’LL BE OFF POST IN A SECOND FLAT AND I WILL WHIMSICALLY PUT SOMEONE ELSE THERE WHO WILL NOD THEIR HEAD AND SALUTE AT ME INSTEAD — WHICH IS A MUCH MORE POWERFUL CONDITION SINCE I POSTED MYSELF AS C.O.B AND LRH IS NOT HERE TO CORRECT THAT AND WE BOTH KNOW THAT YOU ARE SCARED SHITLESS OF ME AND DO NOT HAVE THE BALLS TO CONFRONT HOW I AM ACTIVELY SUPPRESSING YOU, THE ENTIRE INT BASE AND SCIENTOLOGY…..

    “A/T/WDC FB”
    SAME GOES FOR YOU, EXCEPT THAT YOU ARE EVEN MORE ACTING AND TEMPORARY…

    “A/T/ED INT”
    DITTO FOR YOU, YOU COCK-S____KING SHIT-HEAD!

  152. martyrathbun09

    More perfect duplication.

  153. Non Sequitur Joy Rant:

    Magnetic projections of objects dance around us like solid water

    Each compound dream in mock stillness is whirling with a trillion pokadoted subparticles laughing in shiny bliss

    And space as solid as the ocean connecting dream forms on the shores of their space placement.

    In Joy I am born, In Joy I live and In Sacred Joy I melt

    No birth, no caste, no death have I

  154. And with the warmth of realization, these solid objects melt like icy dreams and are resolved back to their source as thought and thought is dissolved back into pure consciousness and individuated consciousness is resoved back to the Supreme Dreamer of Dreams: spotless, free, blissful forever more. We are the Unified Field.

  155. I have read the memo several times and am left shaking my head each time. The “translation” from Dave-speak that Marty wrote is funny, but also gives some background for non-Scientologists like me.

    Miscavige’s style is completely the opposite of the way things work in successful large companies. This is clearly causally related to the “unprecedented expansion shrinkage” with stats going “straight up down and vertical.”

    I’m trained as a writer, so the first thing I am struck by is just how completely illiterate the text is. Even allowing for the fact that this is transcribed dictation, it’s not the thoughts of somebody who is capable of a complex intellectual argument. In my strategy consulting work, I have been in meetings with famous, accomplished CEOs and have usually been struck by how good they are at putting together a complex argument easily understood by their audience. When the audience can follow the argument, they can “duplicate” it quicker, and are more motivated to make it happen. None of that exists in the posting above.

    In Miscavige-land, the fantasy world of Int Base, every word that Dave says is treated as brilliant, well-chosen and the gospel truth. People stuck word clearing each brain fart drive themselves crazy to try to figure out a way to understand something that is basically illiterate gibberish to begin with, and then try to find a way to engage in some form of cognitive dissonance to ignore the fact that the order may have contradicted a different brain fart from a few minutes or a few days prior. They can’t just forget what they already know.

    There is no long-term strategy driving the organization, only reaction to the issue of the moment, so whatever random synapses are firing in Miscavige’s brain at that particular instant are not guaranteed to be consistent with anything that was a priority of the organization a minute, an hour, a day, or a year before.

    In the real world, there are a lot of people on the headquarters staff whose job it is to make sure the company is protected from the random brain farts of the CEO, and to make sure that things the CEO says are in touch with what the rest of the company (and the rest of the world) believes. This is an important function for all big companies, and they work hard at it even if the CEO is educated, highly trained and good at his job; it’s even more important when the CEO is new or is perhaps not the sharpest knife in the drawer. CEO’s of really big companies know they live in a bubble and are appropriately fearful that this fact can lead them to say dumb stuff and make bad decisions. In other words, successful real-world CEOs are intensely aware of the possibility for unintended consequences for what they say and do and they take steps to prevent it.

    So CEO’s of successsful companies have every word scrubbed before it goes out. The staff that does this is not doing “word clearing” ordered by Miscavige, which presumes the draft message is perfect and that they are idiots; they are checking to ensure that the CEO has done everything possible to make sure his message is clear and easily understood by everyone who reads it. The presumption is that the first, second or third draft of anything is hardly perfect, but needs to be improved. This includes making sure that it is checked against prior communications, and any changes to policy or positions are explained and clarified. In other words, they eliminate accidental “cross orders” and they “sell” the reasons for any changes for something that could be interpreted as a random cross order if people don’t know that there are reasons why some policy has to be changed.

    And big companies have a strategy; they actually have lots of them. A big part of the CEO’s job is to make sure that all the top managers have bought into the strategy and are working to execute it. The CEO must not only be the gatekeeper for changes to the corporate strategy but must also ensure that everyone understands when and why the strategy is changing. It’s the exact opposite of the knee-jerk reaction to random brain farts that characterizes Int Base.

    And finally, most really successful big company CEOs are at least somewhat able to hear bad news about mistakes they have made or that the company is making; their personal ego is less important than the overall success of the company, since what’s at stake is billions of dollars in sales and the jobs of tens of thousands of people. Few (read: zero) big company CEOs suppress bad news that threatens their ego by hitting or verbally humiliating their employees. CEO’s these days get fired for lots smaller transgressions. For example, Yahoo’s new CEO may end up having to resign not because he hit somebody but because he lied about his college major — he said he studied business and computer science but only actually majored in business. That’s a lot higher standard for accountability for telling the truth than Miscavige is held to.

    So thanks for a post that encapsulates in a nutshell exactly why the corporate organization is going down the tubes.

  156. Burn Original Books????That was an order from management?
    Would that include Personally autographed by LRH Dianetics books??

    Some guy in Germany did that in the 1930’s.
    Didnt work out so well for the German people.

  157. Ronnie Bell

    Scott, forget the KTL. It doesn’t appear that Miscavige ever got the E.P. of 4th grade English instruction.

  158. Lana,
    It would read like so:
    MARTY, MARTY, MARTY, MIKE, MARTY, MIKE, MIKE, MARTY, COOK, MARTY, MARTY, MIKE, LANA, MARTY, MARTY, MIKE, MARTY, JACKSON, MARTY, MARTY!!!!! MIKE!!!!! FAIRMAN, BEGHE, HAGGIS, ZAMUDIO, MARTY, MARTY, MIKE, MARTY, MARTY, INDY PARTY, MARTY, KIMOTO, MIKE, BABIES, MIKE, MARTY, COLBRAN, MARTY, PARTY, MIKE, MARTY…etc.

    Geez Dave, talk about snapping terminals or what.

  159. The Oracle

    Agreed with, except the trapped part. Nobody is trapped there. They want to be there. And those reasons are personal for all of them. This is what happens when society makes it a crime to run away from “home”. Thetans don’t really have “homes” except for their bodies when they want to get nice and comfy and stuck in one. The biggest crime in this universe to disappear. That makes all of us criminals eventually.

  160. Probably the real reason he dropped out of high school (9th or 10th grade, wasn’t it?) was that he was doing poorly. It wouldn’t be at all surprising if he was failing core classes and was not on track to graduate at all. With his personality, he probably was a miserable student who couldn’t accept instruction or produce a product (know best) and argued with or undermined teachers and classrooms constantly. It would have been an easy justification to blame the school system and teachers rather than accept any responsibility. Joining the SO in a make-wrong would have been a perfect out.
    Leonore

  161. The Oracle

    In fact, if someone does disappear, you are supposed to file a missing person’s report with your local police. It happens at Int too if someone goes missing, HCO all over the place over 10 people sent to Texas to round up one fellow, musters several times a day in some Sea Orgs to make sure nobody has gone missing. I think this is the most aberrated dramatization in the Sea Org. If you leave, you are declared suppressive.
    At Int they really have problem. If they leave they are suppressive, if they stay and support Miscavige they are suppressive. Because it’s not O.K. to walk away, drive away, or run away. You can call that a trap or you can call it an inability to know about conditions. Conditions is on the awareness side of the grade chart.

  162. The Oracle

    Well said!

  163. The Oracle

    +1.

  164. That’s funny. Not sure why you left yourself out though…. 😉 Or Sinar or Tony D or Tony O or Steve or Tiz or Ken and Yvonne or Karen or Scott or Marc and Claire or Sam or Luis and Rocio or Bert and Lynne or, or, or…

    His nightmares must get worse by the day. Mine have faded, I rarely wake up in the middle of the night in a panic about how the hell I got back behind the fence at Int….

    It sucks to be Miscavige (sucks even worse to be sucking Miscavige like John Allender….)

  165. The Oracle

    Sorry about the auto response, it’s off now. I couldn’t find your email though. Please resend. I haven’t seen American Idol. I’ve had a nano ipod stuck in my ear since I discovered http://www.audible.com/

  166. Ronnie Bell

    Fact is, everyone in Miscavige’s misbegotten life failed him in every way. It’s obvious that no one ever took the time to grab him by the collar and apply enough Tone 40 intention to snap him out of his dramos when it could have still made a difference.

    And as he got older, and even more destructive, not one person ever mustered the courage to step in his path and break his nose, like they should have.

    This is precisely how petty bullies rise to the level of world-class dictators.

  167. Addendum to translation:
    From now on, limit the word “of” in all Hubbard’s material. Begin with the Factors, Number 5, change: “And the purpose of a dimension point is space and a point of view” which will now read “And the purpose of a dimension point is space and a point TO view”.

  168. P.S. I just don’t get that word “of”, so me, COB, will rewrite the Factors, Axioms, re-give all lectures, and eventually expunge “of” from the subject to Scientology. Where-to, this is my will, Do as I Wilted.

    COB.

  169. Ronnie Bell

    It sucks to be Miscavige (sucks even worse to be sucking Miscavige like John Allender….)

    This guy Allender must be even more degraded than DM is. After all, he’s been to this blog, and has read some of the commentary here. He hasn’t got the excuse of not knowing about Miscavige’s crimes, so he is in fact, an accessory, and a willing accomplice to those crimes.

    In my mind, that is the very picture of a person who doesn’t give a damn about the religion of Scientology, or its goals and purposes. Such a person is wholly un-invested in such lofty ideals, and is completely committed to the concepts of domination, control, and tyrannical power over others.

  170. Ronnie Bell

    GREEN! ( green power! yess!)

    A radar flyer I talk to recently informed me that the pressure to Donate! has recently been ratcheted up on Los Angeles public. As soon as she told me that, I immediately got a mental image picture of Miscavige hurriedly stuffing suitcases full of money on his way out the back door.

    She also tells me that he wasn’t at the L.A. May 9th event. Curious, eh?

  171. Ronnie Bell

    Since the day I got to Scientology, I saw him as a useless thug.

    You’re my kind of thetan. Wish I’d been able to spot Miscavige sooner. As a public person, I never knew enough about the guy to peg him one way or the other.

    By the time he’d firmly established himself as Supreme Rulah, I was no longer obediently attending major events, and I didn’t read every word in the glossy mags, either. It took a while for me to make enough close observations of the guy to begin having my doubts.

    Even then, there’s so much suppress on information and communication within the church, that it’s hard to trace effect back to true cause. I saw a lot of things I didn’t agree with, but there were just too many holes in the jigsaw puzzle for me to name Miscavige as the source.

    It wasn’t until I gave myself permission to Look, that I finally put it all together. This very blog filled in most of those gaps for me. Kudos to Marty, and to everyone who’s contributed to that ongoing KR.

  172. Ronnie, Wow. That’s a huge outpoint if I am reading this correctly. It’d be nice to get some more info on this, like who spoke at the event and such if DM didn’t. Let us know if you hear anything as I have no comm lines to church members/event attenders anymore.

  173. Geezes, talk about comm lag…
    I got so confused when I first read Daves written drivel or as stated on this thread, dictated to some hapless typist that it took me over 24hrs for what he said to begin to filter through. When he said, quote:

    “Further, there’s a bunch of Internet cronies who like taking things out of context and you are going to give them easy picking to be able to do this.”

    He’s takling about us – the Independants, the old time outdated Hubbard Scios, “the others” – you know the self determined types, the uncontrollable rabble, etc etc. From his twisted perspective he sees anyone that knows what that pesky Hubbard what saying is prone to connect the dots with written text and the God forbid superior understanding that Dave has and take it all out of context.

    Dave has had enough of being misunderstood, he tries so hard! He’s been forced to drastic measures and it’s not his fault, none of it is. Please, give him a break – you pick…

  174. Ronnie Bell

    I’ll let you know what I hear back from my radar flyer. I’ve already sent a comm to her, asking those exact questions. Soon as I hear something, I’ll post it.

  175. Ronnie Bell

    Great post, and great observations/comparisons, John.

    It’s only in corporate religious institutions, third world countries, and first world governments, that incompetent bullies like Miscavige can prosper.

  176. Ciao Marty and Ciao to all the new world indipendents.
    Tonight it’s been a Big Party at “La Reception”, i and my wife Luana have attested OT V.
    I’d like to give a big thank to our Auditor, Ignazio Tidu, and to all people in the world that allaow Scientology to be free from Monopoly in the independent field.
    God bless the day that Facebook Police sent me the “invitation” to cancel Tiziano from my Friends.
    you never betrial a friend.
    Since that moment we start to climb the Bridge.
    Thank you.
    Francesco & Luana Minelli
    ———————————————————————–
    Ciao Marty e Ciao a tutti gli indipendenti del nuovo mondo,
    Questa sera abbiamo fatto una gran festa qui’ alla Reception, io e mia moglie Luana abbiamo entrambi attestato oggi OT V !
    Voglio inviare un sentito ringraziamento al nostro Auditor Ignazio Tidu ed a tutti nel mondo che permettono una Scientology libera dai monopoli nel campo Indipendente.
    Benedico il giorno che la Polizia di Facebook mi ha “invitato” a cancellare Tiziano dai miei amici.
    Gli amici non si tradiscono MAI.
    E da quel momento e’ stata tutta una salita sul ponte !
    Grazie.
    Francesco e Luana Minelli

  177. John P.,

    That sounds like a very sane and workable system – and DM’s system? Is insane as he is. There is no logic to it and no sanity to be found. Plain and simple.

  178. Tony Dephillips

    Hi Dan,
    I really got that. Only a truly incompetent SP does that.

  179. Captain Bob

    I guess you can say what I mean by trapped, they are trapped,,,,,is

    I mean they are trapped in their own considersations, their own thoughts. And I guess I mean they do not know there is not just the COS, but the freezone and the Indie’s. So how can they decide to leave or not leave. They think there is only one place for freedom. And they do not know the COS=CO$ under DM. Thus they are trapped but do not even know it..

  180. Very good Jim, lol.
    One must not overlook that other pesty word Dave just doesn’t get at all – static.
    When is nothing ever important? Give, give and give till it hurts to Dave, nows that’s more like an Axiom COB would be so proud to.

  181. Globetrotter

    Marty,

    Thanks for publishing this.

    Why do you say method 9 is “a method implanting the message into the head of the reader”?

  182. Captain Bob

    thanks John for write-up. Definitely there is a held down 7 in the computing machine of DM. He has a few solder points to many on his circuit board thus shorting himself out.

  183. GetTheConcept

    Jim, is it really supposed to be “point of view” instead of “point to view”?

    Dave Fagen

  184. HannibalTheFirst

    Dean the technical term for this is “whiny weasel”.

  185. Li'll bit of stuff

    Got’cha T.O. that’s absorbing, for sure! Still think you
    will be blown away, when you hear this young ‘un of
    just 19 years, shatter the benchmarks of aesthetics
    and power. THIS is what SOUL should be, could be,
    no, make that……IS! Just google up the title…play..
    and see if you agree…..
    And, will resend to you….meantime, have a really
    enjoyable Mothers Day….XXX Li’ll bit

  186. LOL, I cannot disagree.

  187. Ah the problem is David Miscavige already believes he knows what the Key to Life really is and it’s not what it says in the books. The key to life is money and power and the pursuit of same is the way to happiness. If he’s unhappy he knows he doesn’t have enough money or power and so must do something to get more of both. He’s always unhappy, except when he’s around Tom Cruise, but he knows he’ll get there if he just keeps plugging away with the pursuit of money and power. He doesn’t have time for distractions like doing a key to life course.

    Allergy warning: the opinions presented above are what the author thinks David Miscavige’s opinions are and do not reflect the opinions of the author on such matters as the key to life. I could of course be completely wrong.

  188. Li'll bit of stuff

    BTW, T.O.,There are two versions, for Joshua; (a) the
    live visual Idols stage version, and (b) the (still) studio
    version, both totally unique perfomances, which I
    guarantee will take you to an emotional place, you
    have’nt been for a while. I’d love to be physically with
    you, to watch your reactions when experiencing these
    performances for the first time ..just..very, very special.

  189. Li'll bit of stuff

    Sorry you (we ) missed a ” Golden ” opportunity, to
    do the necessary, Ronnie! Now, we just have to let
    him ( it! ) run the spiral downward, unaided! (shame!)

  190. If all Int posts are A/T, then are all Int products A/T?
    A/T Basics
    A/T GAT
    A/T Ideal Orgs
    A/T Int Reserves
    A/T red & green vols
    A/T highest evers

  191. The Oracle

    On that level, yes, I see your point.

  192. The Oracle

    He is talented that’s for sure!

  193. Ronnie Bell

    Ok, I’ve heard back that Dave Petit, Senior C/S WUS, was the main speaker, and that the event was held in one of the rooms of the Universal City Hilton. Attendance was approximately 1,500 people. Reportedly, the event was light, and very uptone. High ARC, like events used to be. No mention of DM, and only one of RTC. No reports of crush regging afterwards.

  194. LOL Christie — now I see that DM simply masters and applies some of the whole track “goals” — when I say masters and applies, I really mean dramatizes, of course.

    In psychology there is the concept of the double bind, or catch-22. You are damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Put someone in a tough enough double bind and they are likely to crack.

    There does seem to be something deep in the human psyche (in whatever language one wants to use, and whatever the origin) that both abhors a double bind and yet seem unable to escape a double bind.

    One thing (among many) admirable about the Independent movement (IMHO) is a realization that the “must/must not” double binds of corporate leadership is the problem and that when one sees the source of the problem for what it is, one can finally step out of the double bind.

    Headley’s book (a fine read) gives lots of examples of double binds and contradictory orders given by COB. Others have pointed out the same.

    So now I must go. No, stay. Wait — no, decide. Must not decide. Start. Finish first. Leave. Arghh. 🙂 Happy mother’s day to all.

  195. It would not be retro-active. If you want the Internet access, you’ll need to double-down on your membership fees to have access. Million minimum if you want the access to lectures, another million if you want the transcripts. And yet more if you want any sort of search function. All of this to gain access to altered and edited “tech.”

  196. I’d Miscavige is just taking a back seat it’ll be business as usual behind the scenes d imagine though.MaybeD

  197. Who cares what their quals are? Where the hell is A/T in the Green on White? HCO PL ” Quicksilver.” Hello?

    OMG. Int deserves this guy for not lynching him loooong ago. Seriously. I thought ED Int had balls. Wrong!

    And all this was going down 10 years ago. Can you imagine how FUBAR things are now? Ouch.

  198. Thanks Ronnie for checking and giving us this info.

  199. I had an accidental meeting with David Miscavige in Copenhagen (1996) during the IAS Event. http://wp.me/p2Cfx3-1nP

  200. Did you follow up what ever happened to Miscavige Sr. and Daves brother, Ronnie Jr?
    How about you writing a blog post about their disappearence?

  201. Pingback: Ask COB – Apr 28 2014 | Scientology 411

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