Steve Poore: A Re-Introduction to Scientology

Dear friends and fellow Scientologists,

Some of you may have noticed that I haven’t been too active or visible at OTC meetings, OT Ambassador activities   (I have been an OT Ambassador since 1995), Int Events, Ideal Org fund raising meetings, Ideal Org openings, etc. over the past many months.  I haven’t been back to Flag for about a year.

Some of you may have wondered what’s happened.  Well, the truth is, I have been wondering that myself.  I have pondered this and even concluded that my withdraw must be caused by my own overts and withholds.  I’ve originated this to Tech Terminals at Flag, D of P, Flag MAA, to my FSM and even to close friends (that I must have O/Ws causing withdraw).  I have been in session at Flag several times over the past year or two and in metered interviews with MAA.  I have also written up OWs.  Still, I found myself not really reaching or wanting to participate in these church activities including my own Bridge progress. (And yes, I did complete The Basics about 4 years ago and had good wins).

There just seemed to be these nagging considerations of outpoints that would not as-is, go away.  As of this date, my Ethics File at Flag is very empty with the exception of many dozens of Commendations as an OT Ambassador for 17 yrs., Power FSM and Front Lines Disseminator in the WISE Sector for the past 29 years.  I’m not saying here that I am some perfect little angel, but those of you who know me, know that I have been an unwavering, staunch supporter and defender of our church, Scientology and LRH for 35 years.

Why am I communicating to you?

“We of the Church believe … that all men have inalienable rights to think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the opinion of others…” The Creed of the Church of Scientology, 1954.

Hung-up at Doubt.  “But if he’s PTS, he’s stuck in a problem and is unable to come to a decision.  When a person is faced with suppression…The first manifestation of and the first consequence of a problem is indecision…FALSE DATA.

False data can also cause a hang-up on the Doubt Formula…stuck with this suppressive false data.” – HCO PL 18 DECEMBER 1982 ETHICS CONDITIONS: HANG-UP AT DOUBT

Did I have “false data” was I under “suppression”?

I’ve realized in recent weeks, that I have effectively been in sort of a state of indecision and silent protest for many months, even several years now.  And that I have had some major and basic considerations that I just couldn’t reconcile.

Precept # 7 TWTH: “Seek To Live With The Truth.  False data can cause one to make stupid mistakes.  It can block one from absorbing true data.”

I also know as a trained Data Series evaluator, that behind Out-points there is a Situation and below that a Why.

“Personal  integrity is knowing what you know – what you know is what you know – and to have the courage to know and to say what you have observed. And that is integrity.” -LRH

There is a tag line message in Church Promo that states: “think for yourself.” I personally think this is good advice.

LRH states this another way:  “Look, don’t listen.”  HCO PL 7 February 1965 KSW Series 1, Keeping Scientology Working

“A true group must have a management which deals in affinity, reality and communication, and any group is totally within its rights, when a full and reasonable examination discloses management in fault of perverting or cutting ARC, of slaughtering, exiling or suspending that management.   ARC is sacred.”  Essay on Management

“[People] learn to keep their mouths shut, and it’s the wrong lesson. When in doubt, talk. When in doubt, communicate… you’ll be very successful all the way along the line if you just remember that.”  The Phoenix Lectures 1954

“What would happen if all men were free enough to speak?  Then and only then would you have freedom.”  HCO PL 8 February 1960 Honest People Have Rights, Too (OEC Vol. 0, p. 461)

“There is no slightest advantage in getting somebody to believe some fundamental truth uninspected. …and when he can inspect without fear, he can know the truth of things.  And the odd part of it is that once you know the truth of something, it can’t bite…”, excerpt from London Congress, TRUTH AND FREEDOM 23 June 1960

“Any management which operates as a censorship or a propaganda medium will inevitably destroy itself and injure the group.”  HCOPL 9 Jan 51 An Essay On Management (OEC Vol. 7 p. 567)

Okay, so I’m speaking freely and speaking out.  If my observations and comments are just lies, and I’m only attempting to rabble rouse, then how can reading this harm you or anyone?

There is an ironbound rule in handling things:  WHERE YOU FIND OUTPOINTS, YOU WILL THERE ALSO FIND A SITUATION.”  SITUATION FINDING, Data Series 30

Below are just a few of the outpoints and situations that I have been attempting to understand or to think with.  The outpoints and situations I’m listing here have become increasingly impossible to ignore.  This is of course my data and observations; you will need to think for yourself and decide for yourself based on your own observations and your own data.  “Look, don’t listen.”

New definition of Floating Needle at Flag.  About 2 years ago, I was given an interesting indoctrination by a Word Clearer in the OT VI course room at Flag. The Word Clearer insisted on me agreeing that the definition of “rhythmic” as in “…rhythmic sweep of the dial…” was that the needle had to swing three times before it could be called an FN.

Here is LRH’s definition:  “A floating needle is a rhythmic sweep of the dial at a slow, even pace of the needle.  That’s what an F/N is.  No other definition is correct.”  HCOB 21 July 1978 What Is A Floating Needle? (Tech Vol. II, p. 204) this definition of FN is also in the Tech Dictionary.

I also noticed over the past few years at Flag, in the AO HGCs, that at the after session examiner, the examiner would consistently sit there after I picked up the cans and stare at the meter, wait and wait.  This was very odd (outpoint) as in each case I obviously had FNed at the end of session and here I was having trouble FNing at the examiner.

After this happened a couple of times, I learned to sit there and review in my head or in some cases verbalize my wins and cogs in session, and even in some cases, when that didn’t work, begin thinking about just some win in life to get the meter to FN.  This experience was very odd (outpoint), as in all my 30 + yrs. of auditing, I’ve never experienced having trouble at the examiner.  I just sort of thought, oh well, I guess it’s just me.

Now, looking back on this over the past few months, I have also realized that maybe I wasn’t the only one experiencing this as I’ve noticed consistently long lines at the examiner.  I had the same experience at the Success Examiner, trouble FNing. The last time at Success I was red-tagged, sent to Qual and told by the Qual Sec after she watched the video, that I in fact did FN and then I proceeded to attest.  Recently, I was able to confirm with other Flag Public that they have had the same experience and observations.

LRH:  “One often wonders why people are so ‘reasonable’ about intolerable and illogical situations.  The answer is very simple: they cannot recognize outpoints when they see them and so try to make everything seem logical.  The ability to actually see an outpoint for what it is, in itself is an ability to attain some peace of mind. …The human reaction is to react to an outpoint. And then get ‘reasonable’ and adopt some explanation for it, usually untrue.

You can safely say that ‘being reasonable’ is a symptom of being unable to recognize outpoints for what they are and use them to discover actual situations.”  HCO P/L 30 September 1973 Issue II Data Series 30, Situation Finding (Management Series Vol. 1, p. 128)

“A lot of people are on a stuck flow of being sensible and sane — and that winds up in stupidity.   So they get reasonable.  Their confront of evil isn’t up to it — basically, their confront of outpoints.”  HCO P/L 18 March 1977RA Data Series 43RA, Evaluation and Programs (Management Series Vol. 1, p. 167)

“It is horrifying to behold how easily people buy dub-in.  This is because an illogical sequence is uncomfortable.  To relieve the discomfort they distort their own observation by not-ising the outpoint and concluding something else.”  HCO P/L 18 May 1970 Data Series 7, Familiarity (Management Series Vol. 1, p. 29)

Back to this new definition of FN. Was there a Hidden Data Line?

“The first goof relating to Releases is the one done for fifteen years — running past a free, floating needle on any type of process. THIS is the goof that held back all Scientology.  And if it continues to be done, known as well as it is now that you mustn’t, one can only consider it suppressive — not just ignorant — as who now doesn’t know you wreck a Release by running past the floating needle?”  HCOB 2 August 1965 Release Goofs (Tech Vol. VII, p. 631)

“But how would one, who has not studied policy or is not very far advanced in his tech training know when he was being given an off-policy or out-tech order?

1. If it seems kind of stupid it is probably off-policy or out-tech…

2. Require that one be shown in the exact issue or book what the policy or tech actually is.

3. Read it for yourself and don’t listen to any interpretation that seems far-fetched.”  HCO P/L 13 January 1979 Orders, Illegal and Cross (OEC Vol. 0, p. 145)

“Some students have believed there was a “hidden data line” of tech in Scientology, a line on which Scientology tech was given out by me but not made known to students.

… There is no such line. The whole of technology is released in HCO Bulletins and HCO Policy Letters and tapes I do and release.  I don’t tell people anything in some private way, not even Instructors. ‘…If it isn’t written, it isn’t true…’ Somebody says ‘Ron said to — ‘ and on a veteran staff you hear the rejoinder ‘Let’s see it…’ So we have learned the hard way —  ‘If it isn’t written, it wasn’t said’.   HCO P/L 16 April 1965, Issue I KSW Series 22, The “Hidden Data Line” (OEC Vol. 4, p. 347)

“A ‘hidden data line’ is a pretense that certain data exists outside of HCOBs, books, and tapes.”  HCOB 1 September 1971, Issue I C/S Series 57, A C/S as a Training Officer—A Program for Flubless Auditing (Subject Vol. 1, p. 214)

IS THIS NEW DEFINITION OF FLOATING NEEDLE BEING IMPLEMENTED BY RTC AT FLAG? – read on or go to the attachment here and read 31 Factors for Scientologists to Consider.

I discovered that “Since this redefinition of F/Ns was first incorporated into the Pro Metering and Solo courses, students have been referred to sources as far-fetched as the Art Series, the Marketing Series, a physics text, and The Encyclopedia of Music, in order to understand it.”     Friends of LRH web-site.

Incorporated into SOLO COURSES?   


“Psychotics deal with doing people in. Their whole mission in life is destruction.


They inveigh against lower levels gains and seek to discredit them since these run contrary to their aberrated purpose.


But when it gets to Clears and OT levels, psychos go berserk!”




The above (re-defining FN) is JUST ONE example of gross corruption of the Tech, Policy and KSW.


“So we can assume that people who are a bit inclined to malign, knock apart and shoot the human race, and have that as their only goal, can get into Scientology and can remove things from the technical line, or pervert or alter things in the technical line, which then makes Scientology unworkable.”  “And the higher on a command line the power is drawn from, the wider area the alter-is covers.”  Class VIII TAPE 1 “An Introduction To Standard Tech” 24 September 1968


It has been very perplexing to me why so many high profile senior execs (most on post for decades and are now “blown” or declared), have resorted to talking to the media about alleged injustices and human rights violations occurring at the very highest level of our church.

I couldn’t think with this approach.  I considered this an obvious violation of Church policy …reflecting badly not only on The Church, but worst of all, dragging Scientology and LRH’s name through the mud.

This has been very upsetting to me and I’m sure to you too.  My consideration has always been, if there are disagreements of church policy and programs or injustices, then, the thing to do is handle it on the correct lines and within the group using Scientology Ethics and our Justice System.

As I began to check into this, I discovered that these terminals did in fact attempt with great persistence and personal sacrifice, to handle these outpoints on the correct lines.  And in many cases their efforts extended over many years and even decades.

Church management’s response has been to discredit them by asserting they suddenly “went bad” and so have declared them as SPs.  The church has even gone further by proceeding to call them apostates, heretics and squirrels and have orchestrated Black PR campaigns to affect their destruction.

Apparently, each had concluded that there was no justice available and no change/correction forthcoming under current church management.  But instead of keeping quiet as ordered, they eventually resorted to going public in the media and courts rather than just letting it go, or going away—silenced.

This situation of course has made it increasingly difficult for me as a front lines disseminator in the WISE Sector over the past 29 years to do my job and contribute to our mission of a cleared planet – it makes it hard, really, near impossible for all of us to forward our purpose.  Currently the public’s perception of the Church of Scientology is the worst it’s been in our history! This is from my personal experiences of having done thousands of Handle Steps on Raw Public over these many years, and still do in PT as a front-lines disseminator and Power FSM.

It has become a glaring outpoint of the obvious disappearance over the last several years at international events of our senior church leadership/executives.  For example the many senior and veteran Int Execs and WDC members, and CMO Execs including our President, Heber Jentzsch, Ken Hoden, Norman Starkey, Janet Light, Guillaume Lesevre, Ray Mitoff, Mark Yeager, Greg Wilhere, Karen Hollander, Diana Horwich – Hubbard, and even David Miscavige’s brother and father Ronnie Miscavige Jr. and Ron Miscavige Sr. and so many more. Oh yes, Guillaume Lesevre did speak at an event some months back but not as ED INT, and is now absent from the scene once again.

Ever increasingly, veteran SO staff who have served faithfully for decades seem to disappear for years and then curiously re-appear; out, off staff and in many cases declared and now resorting to telling their horrific stories of physical abuse and injustice to the media.

Interestingly (outpoint), the attacks through the media (even the ones we hear about in Europe) in recent years and months are not coming from the real SPs on this planet, the international bankers and their government agencies, the CIA, Interpol, etc and their lapdog controlled media they use to forward their Black PR.  NO, the attacks are coming from the Media, but with who’s data?  Mostly from ex-church staff, especially SO members and high profile public Scientologists who have had to resort to the media and to the courts for the purpose of seeking justice and correction, but mainly to expose the crimes of top leadership in our church, namely David Miscavige.

Why do all the attacks in the media seem to be coming from within; ex-members and ex-SO staff members?  What/who is creating this horrific out-PR situation and poisoning the church’s image?  Why is the public perception of Scientology at an all-time low, even though we are supposedly doing more public outreach programs than ever before?  Why is the media and the entertainment industry incessantly and increasingly making a mockery of and holding up to public ridicule Scientology celebrities, our Church, Scientology and LRH?

Scientology is now a household word, not because of its good works publicized but is sadly now because of the human rights violations and atrocities being committed and condoned at the very top level of church management.

There comes a time when allegations of Senior Sea Org Management Terminals who were speaking out could no longer be ignored.  SO terminals who I respected and admired over the past 35 years, including Mike Rinder, CO OSA, Debbie Cook, CO FSO, Mark “Marty” Rathburn, Inspector General RTC, Vicki Aznaran, ex Pres. & COB, RTC, Marketing Execs: Steven Hall, Jeff Hawkins, veteran FSO registrar, Hy Levy, LRH Trained Class XII, Karen de La Carriere Jentzsch and many more including former FSO CL XIIs and CL VII Auditors & CS’s have come forth and told their experiences of outrageous suppressive behavior from Int Execs including mostly David Miscavige.

There are many more senior execs at the highest level of our church who have “blown” and have been effectively silenced.  There are many high profile celebrities including Paul Haggis, film producer/director, Lisa Marie Presley, Larry Anderson (orientation film) Michael Fairman, Dianetics TV Spokesperson, Jason Beghe, actor and many more who are “out” – some silent but many others blowing the whistle.


HCOPL 15 March 1977, DS 41, Evaluation: The Situation

A few relevant excerpts from this policy:

a) – “Back of wrong data you will normally find an impure intent.”

b) – “Now any time you find thirty people on staff being removed because they were suppressive, you know they had the wrong Why, because the percentages are wrong. … I can assure you they’ve left the suppressive on the staff and I can also assure you the guy that did it was suppressive.”

c) – “CLOUDING UP A SITUATION – Occasionally you’ll find a scene wherein a person’s or area’s PR is greater to him than production – PR, personal PR, means more than production.  And that is a characteristic of a suppressive.  He’ll fog the situation up with big PR about how good it is so it can’t be handled.” -LRH

You might ask yourself; Who is causing all this Internal Strife, creating all these enemies, all this hate that the media loves to report on?  I know I have asked myself these questions.  If any of this concerns you (and it should) go to my attachment and read 31 Factors for Scientologists to Consider.

“There are people who suppress. They are few. They often rise up to being in charge and then all things decay. They are essentially psychopathic personalities.  Such want position in order to kill. …They arrived when they arrived, in charge of things, because nobody when they were on their way up said ‘No’.  They are monuments to the cowards, the reasonable people who didn’t put period to them while they were still only small bullies and still vulnerable.”  HCO P/L 7 December 1969 Ethics, The Design of (OEC Vol. 1, p. 483)

Every OUTPOINT or SITUATION that you or I can observe can be explained, clarified or be backed up by an LRH Reference or LRH References and this can be successfully done without taking said references out of context to apply to these Outpoints or Situations.


I have been wondering about the big broad Div 6 Dissemination Campaigns that we have all been hearing about at Int Events by COB for years.  These would flood the Orgs and Missions with brand new public.

Over a year ago, I was briefed (regged) by Planetary Dissemination Senior Fundraiser, Rudy Kempner.  He told me that we were very close to securing a huge $1 Billion PR & Marketing Campaign, that as a complete package it was only going to cost the Church $100 Million.  He just needed me to donate $5K.  This all sounded great to me!  Wow!  This would be a dream come true and I shared my excitement by briefing many of you about this.

Of course this has never happened.  Sure, I’ve seen a few of the PR ads, and PSAs, (mostly at Int Events).  The problem is, even if there was big volumes of these in the media, they don’t align with what LRH says about marketing “Books make Booms…” (DMSMH), and he was not talking about all the Basic Books in raw publics hands, or in libraries.  We hear about the millions of website hits, and all the “public reaches”, but why are the Orgs and Missions not flooded with New Raw Public?  Don’t believe me, go to your local orgs and missions and look, and not just at existing Div 2 public on Basics.  Where are the floods of New Public?  Who’s stopping the Big Broad Raw Public Dissemination Campaigns that we so desperately need to boom all the New Ideal Orgs?

And besides all this, LRH clearly states, “Word of mouth is a superior form of advertising to newspapers, radio and TV ads. People tend to believe their friends.”  HCO/PL PR SERIES 41

Is this (good and positive word of mouth) really possible in this current environment?

I have heard some say: “The public is out-ethics” or “PTS”, “The society has degraded and that’s why we don’t see floods of raw public…” as an explanation for why there are so few new public on lines.

LRH- “There are no dog pcs or bad students.” HCOB 25 June 1972 Recovering Students and Pcs (Tech Vol. X, p. 185)

“THE PUBLIC HATES LIKE HELL TO BE DENIED DIANETICS AND SCIENTOLOGY.” HCO P/L 25 September 1972 Recovering Students and Pcs (OEC Vol. 4, p. 269)

“It has been found that the whole reason for any lack of prosperity of an org is INTERNAL. The surrounding area of the public has very little to do with whether stats are up or down.”  HCO P/L 7 March 1972R Esto Series 1R, The Establishment Officer (Management Series Vol.2, p. 3)

“The public stays away from orgs in droves which alter technology.”  HCO Executive Letter of 1 September 1964 Technical Lectures by Other Personnel (OEC Vol. 7, p. 1191)

“Bad tech makes it almost impossible to get pcs or students in.”  HCO P/L 29 May 1961 Issue I KSW Series 3, Quality and Admin in Central Orgs (OEC Vol. 0, p. 18)

“But the truth is that the public is with you just so long as results are achieved.   As soon as they aren’t achieved, areas become upset.”  HCO P/L 26 October 1971 KSW Series 6, Tech Downgrades (OEC Vol. 5, p. 97)

“I’ve learned this over the years: The entirety of our stats are internally caused.  WE CAN CAUSE STATS AT WILL.  External actions don’t affect them.  A newspaper can write reams of entheta and it doesn’t affect our stats at all.”  HCO P/L 18 March 1977RA Data Series 43RA, Evaluation and Programs (Management Series Vol. 1, p. 167)

“The public is always there.  Any enemy action does not change our stats.  They are changed inside the org or by higher orders only.”  LRH ED 104 INT Auditing Sales and Delivery Prg #1 2 June 1970 (OEC Vol. 5, p. 258)

“It has been proven continually that orgs which function on policy deliver and prosper.  Periods of decline have been preceded by gross omissions, unwarranted changes or destructive actions which obstruct or distract from delivery.”  HCO P/L 29 December 1971RB, Flag Representative, Purpose of (OEC Vol 7, p. 1407)

“What destroys an organization is its own germs.”  Tape: Org Board and Livingness 6 April 1965

Here are some other concerns I have:  The never ending delayed Release of Super Power, The Ideal Orgs Program, All Orgs St. Hill size for the release of OT IX & X.  IAS Fund Raising.  What is the difference between “Command Intention” and LRH’s Intention?  If any of this concerns you (and it should) read my attachment The 31 Factors for Scientologists to Consider

“If the tech/admin ratio of 2 admin to 1 tech is kept and even brought up toward 1-1, and if promotion is excellent and effective and tech service and org service is good, it is easy to lay aside enough to earn new quarters.  So the image can be improved.” LRH

“If correctly reported outnesses that threaten the org are NOT corrected, then one assumes that suppression exists.”  HCOPL 7 DEC 69ETHICS, THE DESIGN OF

“We can stand in the sun only so long as we do not let the deeds of others bring the darkness.”  HCOPL 8 FEB 1960

“So the ogre which might eat us up is not the government or the High Priests.  It’s our possible failure to retain and practice our technology.”  HCO P/L 7 February 1965  KSW Series 1, Keeping Scientology Working (OEC Vol. 0, p. 7)

“All right.  As far as the state of the organization is concerned, this organization of Scientologists will be as successful as it communicates, one with another – and not necessarily into a central office – but as successful as it communicates, one with another about its problems and antipathies and demonstrates these into a reality and says what’s going on and discusses it and keeps together, you might say, as an understanding. …

“So there is no barrier in Scientology to good communication.  There are no fixed convictions across the boards, one way or the other.  The only thing you’re invited to do is just, please, understand what is going on.  Don’t make a wild guess at it and a fixed conviction and jump down somebody’s throat.

“I have, time after time, restrained the organization and parts of the organization from trying to unmock Scientologists and, just yesterday, restored the certificates of a fellow who’s evidently been quite wronged by another organizational member in Australia.  Why?  They’ve both got good intentions, I sent them cables and told them to talk.  It’ll all work out.

“There is no organizational trouble we can’t solve.  But there is a world situation that will remain unsolved right down to the last whimper unless we stay together, work together and do something about it.”   LRH – 4th London ACC, The Role of a Scientologist, 27 October 1955  this web-site has been created by some of the most highly trained Auditors, C/Ses and Execs on the planet.

I lay full responsibility for this gross corruption of out-tech and illegal policy development and implementation directly at the door step of RTC but moreover and specifically with COB David Miscavige.

“It is more than policy that one gets the condition he fails to correctly and promptly assign and enforce.

It’s a sort of natural law. If you let your executives goof off and stay in, let us say, a Danger condition, yet you don’t assign and enforce one, they will surely put YOU in a Danger condition whether it gets assigned or not.

Remember that when your finger falters “on the trigger.”

(HCOPL 30 Oct 67-I, CONDITIONS, HOW TO ASSIGN, OEC Vol 1, p. 566ff)

Of course, predictably, for speaking out like this, there will now be a full blown concerted effort by the church (OSA) to orchestrate a smear campaign against me and trump up all manner of false charges of “suppression” on my behalf and proceed to Declare, and Expel Me – all in an effort to silence me and disconnect me.

That’s okay. I will not be stopped from doing my Bridge or from supporting and defending LRH and his legacy – and will not be stopped from forwarding my purpose of helping people with Scientology.  And one day, my sincere hope is – that sooner rather than later, we will all get our Church of Scientology back and then we can restore LRH’s legacy, and his aims and goals together.

Dear friends, please ask yourself this question:  Is it really possible to go full OT and reach true spiritual freedom in this environment, when day by day the Tech and Policy that LRH worked so hard for, and devoted his life’s work to, is being chipped away, little by little, altered, perverted and even reversed (see Black Dianetics) in very subtle ways and on a very subtle gradient?  This trend is not reverting but only accelerating over the years.  Let’s end this madness!

After much consideration, deliberation and evaluation over the past few weeks and realizing that I can no longer support Church Management or those who support it, I have decided to withdraw my support for current Church Management and am hereby announcing my resignation and disconnection from The current Church of Scientology led by David Miscavige and all those who support him.

My Goal Finder is LRH.

Today I join the world wide group called, ‘Independent Scientologists’ where honest, on source, LRH technology is being delivered by some of the highest trained, On Source Auditors and CS’s (CLVIIs, CL XIIs)  per KSW.  And where exposing the out tech and criminal activities of the current Church of Scientology Management is the order of the day.


Best wishes.

Steve Poore

PS: To Compare “Command Intention” policy and programs to LRH’s Policy and Programs go to Friends of LRH web-site:

250 responses to “Steve Poore: A Re-Introduction to Scientology

  1. Again awesome!!!!

    DM is seeking to knock out the KR system by attacking the use of media od broadly publishing his LIABILITY condition. This at once self-assigns a condition of TREASON.

    Miscavige, your condition of confusion awaits. And not releasing Super Power is enforcing a hidden data line… Erm… SNAP!

    lol, The short nob protest too much.

  2. Excellent write-up Steve. Welcome to our community!

  3. Steve — wonderful write up. Welcome to the sunshine. You will find more REAL friends and like-minded people in this group than in the corporate church, as those who remain there are incapable of thinking for themselves and only do what they are told. Sad but true.

    The “old” spirit of Scientology is flourishing and prospering outside the marble palaces of the “ideal” orgs and I am sure you will find it refreshing never to have to sit in front of an examiner waiting for the meter to play dixie again (apart from many other enjoyable things).

    The world of Scientology is no longer defined by the corporate church because people like you no longer grant the RCS that right. It’s that simple.

  4. Oh, it’s fuckin’ on, Dave. Can you see your future yet?

    Amen, Steve! Welcome to the land of true freedom, joy and lots of delightful peeps you’ve probably missed for a long time.
    Congratulations on your very thorough write up. Please post it on many web sites as I’m quite sure you WILL help MANY people. Enjoy!
    Tory/Magoo~~”in” for 30 years, escaped out in 2000—Happily free for 12 years now, and proud to be your local, friendly SP! 🙂

  6. These resignation letters just keep getting better, and Steve, this one is freakin’ fantastic. Your words will help show the way for more people to follow you out of Davey’s dark, dismal and degraded dungeon.

    Thank you for writing it and welcome!!

  7. Fantastic write up! Welcome home! ML, Jay

  8. Steve,

    Thank you for your write-up.

    Marty’s blog is the alpha dog when it comes to theta. It’s the actual truth about what is actually, tragically, occurring within the church.

    Nowhere will a person get closer to the actual truth of the church situation than at this site.

    Your contribution here is valuable! The purpose is to key people back out after having been severely mind-fucked by the DM implant station.

    Good job and welcome to the beginnings of hard-won freedom!

    You have our full support.


  9. Welcome OUT of the Cult of Miscavology! Your write up was so well done! The LRH quotes will save many lurkers out there time to write their Public Announcement up – because all of them fit the bill! All of them. You did not miss a beat! Good for you for speaking up and getting out!

  10. OMG Steve-I was just thinking of you!!!!!!!and wondering if you were going to cog-Voila-this beautiful wirte-up.Holy mackerel-good for you! Welcome!

  11. Yes, great write-up! The remaining members of the current C of S have got to notice their numbers dwindling and dwindling…..? It is their only hope, to notice and to LOOK. To wake up.

  12. Poet Laureate


    One by one we bring the future

    Like waves dancing ships to shore

    Two by two we plan thru midnight
Minding Freedom’s Sacred Chore

    Three by three we gather courage
Brash as risen Spartan Guards

Four by four The Spirit sings
Like aesthetic rebel Bards

    100 wide – Purpose Commands!
500 strong we brave the test

    1000 daggers to the heart

    Lays the veiled serpent to rest

And “The Truth” goes spoken
- chains go broken

    And The Chairman of Death
    Vanishes in the fires
    Of fine art.

10 – 1 – 12

    (Edited version of poem)
    written: 9 – 10 -12

  13. Poet Laureate

    Dedicated to you today Steve – for your courage and wise words to all.

  14. Michael Fairman

    You touched all the bases – clearly and thoroughly. The “church” has no rebuttal – only lies. Thank you and welcome,

  15. Wow! A real blow-by-blow write-up, taking us through the process with you. Thanks and welcome out. Note: It can take awhile for the layers of suppression to peel off, but peel they will.

  16. Steve,

    I never met you personally, but I was really moved by your write-up.

    And I agree, FRIENDS OF LRH is the best! It’s the reason I’m free of the tentacles of the Church. Like you, I’m proud to acknowledge them and their great work every chance I get.

    By the way, I couldn’t figure out why I hadn’t heard back from them when I wrote them recently, since I always heard back from them before. Then I just last night saw the note on their homepage saying they hadn’t been able to receive e-mails for awhile, but that it’s all fixed now. (I just wanted to mention this in case any body else had the same problem)

    I LOVE your post Steve! I’m so happy you’re out!


  17. The confusion is blowing off of Scientology.

    Profound Doubt announcement/Resignation letters like Steve Poore’s above seem to be surprising us on a weekly and sometimes daily basis lately.

    And my mind rests a little easier each time it happens.

    As Inspector General RTC, Marty Rathbun was Scientology’s top Tech AND Admin terminal on the planet. And I know that he knows one thing with absolute certainty: THIRD DYNAMIC DE-ABERRATION WORKS.

    And we are most fortunate that he knows this.

    Look back to only a few short years ago. We were a rag-tag collection of discontented Scientologists who had found to our individual horror that our ruin was, in fact, THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY!

    But there was no one to “handle” our misunderstandings and objections…

    Then along comes Marty.

    Problem solved.

    By doing “The Truth Rundown” with Childs and Tobin, by starting this blog, by telling the truth and making himself available to ANYONE that needed help, he showed us that it is possible to know truth once again.

    And thus we became enlightened.

    Soon, need of change was pressuring us once again to do something about it, and we began demanding improvement.

    And the Independent Scientologist movement was born.

    People started getting “cleaned-up” and back on the bridge! People got their Tech straightened out, got back in the chair and started delivering Standard Tech auditing! People started training and using Standard Scientology to truly help others once again! The true and original bridge has been recovered and is being delivered! Success!

    And we continue to expand. Our march toward freedom for all is once again on the path to fruition. Those contributing to this motion are ever increasing in number and ability to contribute. The future looks bright.

    Yet it hasn’t been a smooth path by any means.

    Death, tragedy, outrage and betrayal have marked the perilous path we have chosen to follow. It hasn’t been easy for many of us suffering through forced disconnection, harassment and attacks by Miscavige’s minions.

    But it’s been worth it.

    Because in the face of all this and on our behalf, Marty continues to soldier on – driven by his sense of duty and our unflagging support.

    The fact that we will not yield, even unto pain of death, is certain at this point. However, in all our success we cannot become incautious.

    One thing we must be mindful of as we follow this path is that as new Independents are born, at times both aberration and confusion will enter into the group. At the same time, as we help them rediscover Scientology, the confusion we encounter at times shall merely come up and blow off. Just like the old man said it would. So remember this and don’t become disillusioned when it happens. Slowly but surely, the confusion will lessen – and we shall continue adding to our numbers.

    As a group of individuals, we now know what we’re about and once again what it means to be Scientologists. We have succeeded.

    And I for one, could not be prouder to know the self-effacing and humble OT that has helped us face down the monster threatening our future, and to call him my friend.

    Thanks Marty.

  18. Love how you quoted all those references. Welcome to the light!

  19. Good to see you here Steve!
    I don’t know if you remember me but I was the Dir. I &R at Sterling Mgmt. when you were one of the tours regges there.
    You always impressed me as a ture professional and I loved your write-up. I have seen all of these out-points in my journey on Solo Nots and in and around the Orgs.
    I am so happy you are free of that trap now. I know you are a disseminator extraordinaire!! So dm better watch out, even more people will be waking up soon.
    Tony DePhillips

  20. Corinna Neuschitzer

    what a wonderful write-up, so full of theta ! Thank you very much.

  21. By the way Steve, I was just talking to another veteran from SMS the other day. They are under the radar for now, but they too are a heavy hitter. It is a full on hurricane for the SP dm.
    Davey boy, it is about time to hop into your jet and get the hell out while you still have time….

  22. Fantastic Steve! Big smile on my face. Getting out of PTSness is a beautiful thing.

  23. All I can say is “wow”! Excellent write-up and analysis, Steve.


  24. A warm welcome out, Steve! Eloquent and extremely well-referenced statement. Should inspire and encourage many others. More evidence that the best and the brightest are coming out, because THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE now, and that toothpaste just won’t be going back into the tube!

  25. Wow, great article and so true!

  26. Standing ovation!

  27. Dizzy Mizz Lizzy

    Wow! You have my admiration for this write up! It is such a relief to experience so much sanity and so much truth – with everything backed up by LRH quotes. Thank you!
    If you get an SP declare for this, I think it will be obvious to everyone how far off the rails the church has gone. In such a case an SP declare will become a badge of honour bestowed only on people with personal integrity. I believe it has already come to this.
    I wish you all the best from Denmark!

  28. This is fantastic. I love to see this happening.

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  30. scilonschools

    Excellent write up, though sometimes complex for one (me) not ‘officially’ Tech trained, I can see carefully thought out rationalised arguements with ‘case law’ references that show yours was not a knee jerk reaction, more one of painful realisation!

  31. scilonschools

    ‘Corruptio optimi pessima’

  32. Roger from Switzerland Thought

    Welcome in Freedom !

  33. Steve, thanks for taking the time to communicate here. Even though I resolved my situation with church management a while back, I got a lot of benefit from reading what happened to you and all your LRH references. I’m constantly impressed at the truly outstanding people, like yourself, that come forward here.

  34. Vincent Magni

    Congratulation steve !!! And welcome black ! 🙂

  35. c) – “CLOUDING UP A SITUATION – Occasionally you’ll find a scene wherein a person’s or area’s PR is greater to him than production – PR, personal PR, means more than production. And that is a characteristic of a suppressive. He’ll fog the situation up with big PR about how good it is so it can’t be handled.” -LRH

    I have been through this. “I am so standard tech” “I have such and such certs” “I have been on staff at only the very best places” “I am one of the top discipleship” “I am here to put ethics in” “I am here to sort it all out” “I am here to save the day and if the clients are not happy there is something wrong with all of you, like, you people are glib or untrained or have with holds or, whatever….” “Please deposit ____________ into my bank account. I’ll come back.”

    It’s like,” If DM could do it, so can I!”

    I’m like, “Hey, wait a minute wait a minute…”

    If you are paying someone to cave you in, or to cave your spouse or your family in, Sorry. Who pays to lose? People that frequent casino’s! Do I look like I am going to pay someone to come here and set me and all of my family for loses ?

    Some people think so.

    Are you tripping? I’m not! I can do that down the road at a casino.

    Yet, there are people that will set you up for a loss and cloud the situation.

    Scientology falls into a win/lose situation for me.

    When you spend several decades winning and someone shows up and tries to get you to agree to a loss, it doesn’t fly.

    I just did my last years taxes and wrote off 30 grand in losses with people in the Independent Movement.

    There are even people that have left the Church and think you should be accustomed to losses!


    It was right on the tip of my tongue.

  36. Phew – what a write up! A LOT of right indications in there. And from another disseminating legend of the stature and calibre of Mark Shreffler. Your good work has been undermined and rendered useless over and over by the suppressive actions (squirrelling) of Miscavige and his cult henchmen (RTC).

    I bumped into yet another local OT the other day (it’s almost as if it’s not quite accidental) – we exchanged numbers and e mail addresses. She couldn’t understand how all her good work was coming to nothing. This is one of greatest tragedies – and why I will continue to get the truth out to as many as possible still “in”. Because they don’t deserve to be tossed on the scrapheap and betrayed continuously. The great disseminators like you, the staff, and especially the Sea Org members are effectively being neutered and invalidated on a daily basis because of this insidious cancer from within. As long as CCHR for example is associated with Scientology no one is going to take seriously a damn thing they say. So it is with Narconon. The message may be good, but it will still be pissing in the wind until the snake has been beheaded – metaphorically speaking of course.

    This: “Scientology is now a household word, not because of its good works publicized but is sadly now because of the human rights violations and atrocities being committed and condoned at the very top level of church management” is so painfully true. I would like to believe the “Church” is salvageable but I can’t share your optimism on this point. Independent Scientology however is thriving like never before.

  37. constantvigilance

    Wow Steve, Your integrity and ethics presence shine through clearly and your LRH references were so spot on! Wonderful writeup.

  38. Holy Mother of God!!!!

    Wow, wow, wow….

    As a friend of mine texted me this morning (after reading this) THE END IS NEAR 🙂

  39. As a much newer Scn than most on here (Grade IV), I was reminded today after reading this write-up of how LRH REALLY had a tech to handle everything, even letting everyone know how the very tech he created would be assaulted and attacked. Its like DM read how to attack it and then did it to the “T”.

    I knew early on that the tech was simply amazing, but I knew I would never be able to be the type of Scn the corporate church said I should be. Guess I was a lucky one for knowing.

    As Mike Rinder says “it sucks to be miscaviage”

  40. The only thing that is STRAIGHT UP AND VERTICLE in The Miscavige Universe is the # of enemies he creates EVERY – SINGLE – DAY! Oh, unless it’s MY BIG FAT MIDDLE FINGER RIGHT IN HIS FACE – …just wanted to end my announcement on a more positive note.


  41. Steve, welcome to the bright side! That was one of the most powerful resignation letters I have seen yet. If there is anything I can assist you with, please let me know.
    David St Lawrence

  42. Steve – Welcome to the world of those who can see and have the integrity to state what they see. A very excellent write-up. Every time that I see a very thorough write-up with all LRH references I know that there are more people inside the bubble that are going to wake up. Beneath it all there is always the basic agreement to try to duplicate what Ron had written.

    I am sure you are feeling good just breathing good clean fresh air – with freedom and your own self awareness at your side.

  43. If Miscavige will not leave the church, the church will leave him.

    Steve Poore, your message is brillant and pure.
    I never met you but accidentally I know some good friends of mine (still drinking the Kool-Aid) who are (I’m postulating) on your e-mail list.
    They don’t know I am under the radar and I was yesterday talking to one of them about a project we are working on (him being in Clearwater) and somehow (before me reading your announcement on I felt his entire universe shifted and supression blown.
    I know you’re an opinion leader for this people. And your influence is huge.

    My admiration for all the good work you was flowing out through decades.

  44. Way to go Steve. I hope you email that write-up to every Scientologist you know. One cannot read your entire write-up and come to any other conclusion than the one that brought you here. What other Scientologists still on the inside need to understand is that they will NEVER make it to the top of the Bridge anyway, because the path has been BLOCKED. Once you get close to the top, say OT 7, they put you back on Objectives! Or tell you that you are not Clear. Or insist on un-needed Sec Checks. All at such an expense as to make it un-affordable for anyone not making a million dollars a year. It’s so out-tech, and so obvious that the only thing the Church cares about today is taking parishioners for all their MONEY. How many people have the time and money to go up either side of the Bridge? And thus the Orgs are all empty. But that is by design, and that is David Miscavige’s design. So, considering all that, what has ANYONE really got to lose by publicly disagreeing with everything that is wrong with the Church? Thanks again for that great write-up – the argument cannot be made any more clear than with all those great references you provided.

  45. Yeah, taking all the money from people is just the means to give them a PTP LD. A huge PTP of Long Duration so they, lacking Havingness, will buy all the other crap the psychlo is telling them.



  47. Good move Steve.

  48. Good job, Ingrid! Keep thinking of more people! 😉 LOL Gotta love a good postulate.

  49. Question With Boldness

    Hi Steve! It is sooo good to see you here. You have great courage and honesty. You’re resignation is well thought out and executed. You will find many of your friends out here, including me. You can reach me on Facebook.
    Cindy Bernot Plahuta

  50. so,so true! Mike,

    Thank you for those kind and inspiring words!

    It’s been really interesting around here in the last 24 hours, with almost 200 emailed annoucements to friends and to many “OT Ambassadors’, including INT OTA IC, “OT VIIs, VIIIs” and many SO staff, including several execs and even DofT Flag, DSAs… that are now getting the reverse flow of all the big glasses of kool-aid I’ve been getting from them for soo long now. Mine is KOOL-AID Solvent.

    WOW! Imagine the big pile of KRs that OSA, DSAs and MAAs are enjoying this morning – like they aren’t busy enough.
    Then imagine how wonderful the many kool-aid sippers are feeling for ALL THE RESPONSIBILTY that they took in writing up a Really Big Bad SP (my initials) OH, I’m so happy to free of that culture! my needle is floating! thank you!

    But on a more serious note, before I started writing my announcement, I felt that if I could reach even one friend and help wake them up from the perfect theta trap that is CofM, that it would be worth the effort – (that has already happened).
    So thank you again Mike and to Marty, Steve and all your support crew for all you have done, doing, to make it possible for all of us lost in the church of labyrinth and endless rat mazes to get back on track toward real spiritual freedom.

    The announcement has already fully salvaged from the snake pit of CofM an Old friend of mine, 1996 “OTVIII”… attempting to get back on “the level” after “GAT” (golden age of more crap to sell you), emailed me just after seeing my announcement, asked if I could talk, I called him and we talked for about an hour. He said WOW!, that he was “feeling the same thing as I stated in my email, no FN at exam…red-tagged…qual…back in session…”,(and around and around we go) and that he has “never felt the same…” (completly RUINED CASE!) after being ordered to 6 int of FPRD in 2002 and doing them for set ups… I listened to him itsa for about 20 minutes, and then I r-factored him, “I’d like to indicate that you have bypassed charge…, he blew down more, sent me this email a little later “I’m still blowing down on your email, and very may being doing so for the next few weeks!!!! WOW!

    this really made my day yesterday!

    (he will soon be making his annoucement)


  51. excellent, excellent, complete truth.
    I had the same experience at Flag. I thought the MAA
    was watching a tennis match on a mini TV, face inches from the meter.
    So Im thinking of something pleasant before I obviously get the axe.
    Thats what it took, thinking about a tall slim sweet heart and I was OK ?
    Later I discovered the 3 swing F/N out tech. I did not F/N at examiner
    but was passed on anyway because of the unbelievably long line at exam.
    It was a log jam a mile long, never seen an Org that messed up.

  52. Hi Steve!

    Very glad you have set yourself free.

    After having read your post last night, I started thinking about when I left, back in ’92, and how hard and how LONG it took me turn my back and walk away, It took me YEARS, from around ’79 to ’92, years of self denial, that it was ‘me’ that was screwed up, years forcing myself out of valence in order to accept the outpoints and remain in in the belief the Bridge could be make to work, and once out, years again before I could get myself back in the chair to continue my Bridge. During this whole time period, there was not one single person you could comm with about it. Every time I did a condition, I had to fake it so that I could stay and ‘continue’, there was no option. That was both the carrot and the hammer that kept me in. There was no ‘outside’ of the CofS, just a wrecked civilization and a no Scientology.

    In your post, realize just how much faster people are taking that ‘small step’.. With the advent of the Internet, you can actually go LOOK and find out that it is not you that is screwy, it really is the management, and so apply the condition much, much faster. Also, with all the comm, such as what Marty and Mike offer here, you can find others who are out here as well, so the landing isn’t so cold and hard.

    And, the marvelous thing is that the rate of persons setting themselves free from the abomination is so much faster now; so many more persons can take that step much sooner than before; that drip is becoming a torrent.

    And that is very heartening, so see Beings free themselves up at such an accelerated rate, planting Scientology outside the CofS all across the world.


  53. Wow Steve! What a thorough and extremely well-written post. Welcome!

  54. +1,000,000! 😀 It really is that simple!

  55. Outstanding write-up Steve! One of the best I’ve read. I wonder if Greg Hughes will ever have the cog and do the right thing.

  56. I have to say out of all of the write-ups I have read, this one as-ises for me the final frayed threads of any connection to the Church of David Miscavage.

    I cannot bring myself to call it The Church of Scientology as it is NOT that.

    Thank you!

  57. Yes Scott! VERY WELL STATED!

    “THIRD DYNAMIC DE-ABERATION WORKS” and does it ever!!
    Our solution to POB’s black dianetics RE-ABERATION.

    and yes, the confusion is blowing off and we’ll ignore the confusion as much as possible and continue to put order in –
    WE ARE HCO BRING ORDER to Cof M amd POB’s demise!


  58. Well written post Steve!!!! Welcome !

  59. Another intelligent person confronting the truth – welcome out of the implant, Steve! Great write-up.

  60. Steve,
    Very nice write up! Thank you for standing up and speaking the truth! I wish you much happiness!!

  61. Yvonne Schick

    Thank you, Steve, for a very professional and enlightening announcement. Absolutely goes on the “classics” list.

    Welcome to your new group and your new life. You will definitely enjoy the sunshine of truth. You will discover you have many true friends. You will enjoy open and honest communication and the high affinity that comes with that.

    I look forward to the contribution you will make to LRH’s aims for Scientology.

  62. Well said Scott!!
    Marty is a man amongst men ( and women).

  63. Wow, Steve, very long time … what has it been … Sterling in the 90s since we last saw each other?

    Welcome to the real world.

    I’ll be insulted if you don’t come by and visit next time you are in Texas, only a 4-5 hour drive from Marty, hour and a half from Houston, 5 from Dallas, 4 1/2 from Austin and San Antone. Come for a day, a week or a month. Play with the dogs, fish the pond, or sit on the porch, and watch the grass grow. Even have a spare car, tractor or souped up lawnmower that you can go sight seeing on! (yeah Mosey, I will always save some grass cutting for you!).

    Realize, though there may seem or feel to be massive upset or destruction to comm lines, it is also a new beginning. We can’t build a beautiful piece of furniture or a home, or even a n inspiring picture frame without a tree having been first cut down.

    Do well!

  64. Scilonschools, it helps a great deal if you also give the English. After all, I know you are not just trying to be an 18th century author who proves his superiority by spouting a phrase in a foreign language in the middle of a book so that I go crazy and throw the thing across the room. LOL!

  65. Hello Steve……..Welcome to the world of those who can communicate free and ever……great great great job,….thanks

  66. The deeper you are in, the harder it is to see your way out, and the more you have to justify staying in to avoid seeing that you’ve made a mistake.

  67. Steve, congratulations on your stand. Being on the fence is like being on an island in a river. If you want to get off the island, you have to decide which side you want to get to, and then you have to PUSH OFF to get going against the current that tries to swerve you back onto the island. You did a great job of pushing off the island and landing on the habitable shore.

  68. Thoughts for Dave:

    Around you Dave are subjugated fearful yes men and women. You have demanded that they all think that major SP’s are attacking the only hope for mankind. You see yourself as the most powerful man on the planet because you are the leader of the only hope for mankind. You demand a Simon Bolivar approach to you from your subjects.

    You scan the eyes of your subjugated fearful yes men and women for subtle evidence of betrayal to your total demand for obedience. Always looking for betrayal, always trying to sense total loyalty or potential treacherous staff.
    It drives you a bit batty at times. Then you feel you deserve a drink because you work so hard.

    It’s the ones who are intelligent and able you cannot not let close to you. They may be another Marty or Mike or any of the many many many old time true Scientologists that eat away at your fitful nightime sleep attempts.

    Independent thinkers are dangerous to unreasonable total obedience.

    Ironically, your enemies Dave are not anti Scientologists. Your enemies now are Scientologists that see beyond a doubt that you have altered standard Scientology. These people are not apostates, these people are Protestants.

    These Protestants are banning together in ever expanding numbers. And it is the writings of Ron that they are using to revealing you. The very subject you so glibbly purport to protect is the very subject that is revealing you and your dangerously underdeveloped intelligence and selfish motives.

    Just look at the stats Dave, almost every day a new 100% dedicated Scientologist is renouncing the guilded cage that you covet as your ecclesiastically entitled domain. It is a stolen throne whose very foundation of existence is being threatened because you are not a real Scientologist..

    Dave, you don’t give a rats ass about enlightenment, freedom, wisdom, happiness or Scientology. I don’t even think you believe in any of it.

    For you Dave it’s about power and control, luxury and fame, celebrity and materialism.

    It’s possible that you have convinced yourself of your deception. But somewhere deep inside your private moments of doubt, is the knowing that this wave heading your wave is not like the others.

    And the power behind this wave is all the broken theta lines on the brink of explosion. All the mean spirited private investigations.

    Each and every enforced divorce, damaged relation between, father, mother, child, friend, cousin, uncle, aunt, grandma, grandpa, group, business, abortion, community is in fact the very make up of power and velocity that is this wave.

    And from what all these highly trained Scientologist are revealing: you are a squirrel. Dave, the correct application of the tech is what is taking you down.

    Irony of ironies!!!!

  69. Great news on your friend!

  70. Greatest exit I have witnessed so far. This will certainly give the remainder of slaves under the bubble the real WHY! Now we have to chip away and pop the bubble so they can see and hear the truth. ARC Bill

  71. Bitter Defrocked Apostate

    Steve … thanks for the great writeup, and welcome out! Funny how those still “inside” cannot confront that David Miscavige, self-styled “ecclesiastical leader,” is a raving lunatic.

  72. That’s a great analogy Lynn.

  73. Great Write-up Steve, Welcome to the free world. You will find it easier to breathe out here.

  74. I do not understand why DM made it so difficult to call out an F/N by adding “the needle should swing three times” to the original definition as given by LRH. What is the technical advantage of making that addition?

    An F/N is an F/N even if it appears for a brief moment. It shows that a particular action was concluded. The F/N can be brief because there may be other charge not addressed by that particular process, which now needs to get handled by a more suitable process.

    I don’t think that any single process could be regarded as capable of handling all charge currently in restimulation.


  75. Only one word describes your write up AWESOME!! Thanks so much for such a wonderful read this morning.

  76. And so, yet another remarkable, creative being walks away from Miscavige’s decrepit house of horrors. Well done, Steve, and welcome home to your true group.

    The exodus continues, and will not stop. With every OT who leaves, there is that much less agreement holding the evil game together. Soon enough, the only ones remaining behind the razor wire will be the DBs, the criminals, and the severely PTS. The tipping point has passed. The rotten edifice will soon collapse of its own weight, because theta has left the building.

  77. Wow. This was a pleasure to read, in full, no stops. Very Well Done! This has added more and powerful ammunition to the salvo toward helping David Miscavige topple from his wee apple box that now has so many holes it can barely support him.

    Welcome to the sunshine, Steve.

  78. Jean-François Genest

    Thank you for this marvelous and thorough write-up. Welcome to the Independent Scientologists movement. The movement is certainly flowing well. Congratulations on your cognitions. I wish you continued success. Θ

  79. Sparkling bullets of truth, aimed straight at the heart of darkness!


  80. One may not talk about one’s case, but one should be able to discuss with others the outpoints one notices, if only to find out how widespread some discrepancy or inconsistency is. But this heavily discourage in COS, Why?

    Does COS want to hide something in those areas where outpoints exist?


  81. [Correction] But this is heavily discouraged in COS. Why?

  82. Lynne,

    We are in the XXI century. I Google it, and I got the answer in 0.19 seconds. And, the definition is on Merriam-Webster (Encyclopedia Britannica).
    Don’t forget this is an international site.

    I go crazy and throw things across the room when I read about DM & Co$. 🙂

  83. Gerhard Waterkamp

    Steve, we never met and reading your letter makes me really wish we had. Your writeup is true, touching, honest and to the point. I admire your style and appreciate you taking thye time writing it up, as it will help others to wake up and see.
    Thank You for doing this.

  84. Outstanding declaration, Steve! Great to have you here.

  85. Steve — that is wonderful news. One person pulled back from the gaping maws of the Vulture Culture is a very worthwhile accomplishment. And someone of your standing and credibility is going to reach a LOT more. So pleased to have you on the winning team!

  86. Steve Poore
    I have known you longer than anyone in this Life Time as I shared our Mother’s whom with you. I am so very proud of You for Your convictions, honesty and personal integrity.
    L.R.H. is proud to call you a Brother as much as I am.
    Your twin Brother….. Allen Poore

  87. What was the technical advantage? It caves people into their heads self-listing about what is wrong. Perfect EP for DM.

  88. Great reply, Mike. Good to hear from you. 🙂

    It is interesting that this is the first outpoint listed by Steve in his write-up, and deservedly so. This is killing Scientology application on the technical front.

    I wonder how this rule is being applied to Celebs without upsetting them too much.


  89. … the advantage? Dude, seriously?

  90. The more people who do what Steve has just done, the safer it will be for others to cognite. Also there are many flying under the radar for one reason or another, and each such announcement brings closer the day when they can come out in the open.

  91. Beamed me up Scotty! We are in the right place at the right time! The wide difference in this corner is that people are standing here out of desire, not in the enforcement band. You are right about the confusion blowing off, there are people adrift that don’t even know you are supposed to have WINS in Scientology. To anyone sitting on the fence, turn yourselves lose!
    It will all work out O.K..

  92. “The confusion is blowing off of Scientology.” Scott Campbell

    Damn, I love that line.

    Truth blows charge. Lies confuse and enturbulate.

    I’m pretty sure most any competent non-Scientologist can understand that.

    Scientologists are good people, please, press, never undermine that.

  93. “A lot of people are on a stuck flow of being sensible and sane — and that winds up in stupidity. So they get reasonable. Their confront of evil isn’t up to it — basically, their confront of outpoints.” HCO P/L 18 March 1977RA Data Series 43RA, Evaluation and Programs (Management Series Vol. 1, p. 167)

    “It is horrifying to behold how easily people buy dub-in. This is because an illogical sequence is uncomfortable. To relieve the discomfort they distort their own observation by not-ising the outpoint and concluding something else.” HCO P/L 18 May 1970 Data Series 7, Familiarity (Management Series Vol. 1, p. 29)

    Welcome to the Sunshine and thank you for those wonderful LRH quotes.

  94. Excellent Steve. Thank you for your write up.

    I am always struck when reading these declarations and the subsequent comments by the most often used word … courage.

    Commenting on the person’s courage to leave.

    Courage isn’t typically a word used when someone decides to change churches, find a different buddhist teacher, convert to a different religion, find a different type of counseling or even just switch social groups.

    Courage is used when fighting in a war. When walking through the poorest places of India and handing out food or clothing. When going to war torn countries and giving refuge.

    Unfortunately it appears that dm et al are smack dab in the middle of the Inquisition and while it was accepted for a long time to burn heretics back then …

    The tides are turning.

    Burning heretics is no longer acceptable and luckily for dm et al those who are leaving are not interested in doing to him what was done to them.

    It is my fervent wish that dm stop creating such a deep hell for himself and those who aide him.


  95. Since more than 30 years, David Miscavige successfully defeated beings that were apparently higher on the tone scale and more able. For example David Mayo, Pat Broeker, more recently Debbie Cook, etc. The list is very long.

    This reminds me of something Hubbard said: a powerful individual OT can be defeated by a group of beings that are not OT. The reason is that the lesser beings have a 3D, when the individual OT is 1D limited.

    That is possibly the reason why David Miscavige always defeated his enemies until today: he is owning a group. The orthodox scientologists are possibly lower on the tone scale, less free and less able than independent scientologists, but they still form a strong 3D as David Miscavige could entrap them so that they are immune to the current evidences that are now piling everyday. I know, I tried to change the mind of some. They are absolutely immune to what is said here.

    Thus, in my opinion, the only way for independent scientologists to win is to form a true 3D, in order to balance the 3D of the CoS.

  96. Been there, done that, it sucks.

  97. Steve. A tremendous write up. These things are coming at an ever increasing rate. Your will certainly stir others who also believe, “it is only me”. That’s the control point since one can’t talk about these things inside the CoS. Once one starts talking about it, others defect and of course, you get declared. LOL. Sunshine does indeed disinfect.

    Welcome to the disinfected community of Scientologists.

    Tim Swanson

  98. There is nothing sinister about it. Dealing with your case needs to be in a standard session setting, with an auditor. Some people have a tendency to rattle on about their case and it keeps it all stirred up. If they start yapping about how out-lists they are during lunch, for example, there is no way to address it at that time.

    There is an assumption here, of course, and that is that the auditor and the C/S are trustworthy and are on your side. This is, or at least was, the usual situation.


  99. Scott Weible


  100. Roger from Switzerland Thought

    +1 🙂
    beautifully said !

  101. Dear Steve,
    This is one of those communications that will really talk to those still in, in fear of making a decision while leading a miserable life of being regged and regged and sitting at the examiner for 5 minutes waiting for the needle to rhythmically swing….Very well done.

  102. So well put Brian! 🙂

  103. You’re welcome V. Hope all is good in your life. It seems like forever ago when we passed one another in the tween decks….

  104. Steve,
    If anything deserves the label of “KOOL-AID SOLVENT” it is your outstanding write-up!
    Perfect for passing onto ‘golden-cage-dwellers’.
    May that exodus swell up to a tsunami!!!

  105. I really like your poems!! 🙂

  106. Wait for it… wait for it……..wait….for ….it……..there it is, the third swing.
    I’d like to indicate your needle is no longer floating.

  107. Gerhard Waterkamp

    I am sure David Miscavige is working hard to assure the GAT2a version of the new E-meter: “Examiner Edition”, will have a build in Ipod and small speakers to play the finest Dixie selection there is.

  108. Thank you, Mike. I am doing quite well.

    I remember your much younger self so well. Those days were quite adventurous and I have no regrets about those experiences. Actually, those were great learning experiences. I enjoyed them thoroughly.


  109. I believe that talking about one’s case would never be a problem if people around one are simply apply standard TRs.

    If case is stirred up outside the sessions then something didn’t get fully handled in the session. A session should stir up only that amount of case that it can easily handle.


  110. I think there are more Scientologists on lines at Marty’s blog than A.O.L.A today.

  111. Hello and Welcome!
    This is one of the best write-up I have ever seen! It is direct and powerful. It would hit a nerve/s of any Scientologist who reads this and is still able to think.
    Thank you, Steve!

  112. 🙂

  113. From ORG series 23.

    Associated Terminals is usually a pretty sane situation.

    I would reckon the CofS 3D to be at “menacing particles” which most people find out when they try to step away or reach towards to make an effort to adjust.

    The conditions determine the survival of a 3D.

    (HCO PL 16 February 1971,

    Lines and Terminals)

    There is a scale concerning Lines and Terminals.

















  114. one of those who see

    Steve. So well done on your Courage to look and your Integrity!! Another powerful OT goes free. Welcome to the light, to real Scientology. I am recently back on the Bridge in the Indie field and it is fantastic. told my Auditor – I definitely want more of this!!!

    People – listen to Steve, and get out of “The Buildings!” Out here you are free read anything, to think, to communicate and to live your life on your own terms.

  115. Thank you Zephyr/Greta

  116. Changing the mind of someone is a difficult task. You have to revert what you have learned in school about perception and thinking. Science tells us, that the mind is perceiving something and then the mind „thinks“ about what he did perceive. That is not true. The being is putting something there to then perceive it and then the mind reacts on it by computing what he got as input. A bit sloppy explained: the being is perceiving that what he thinks is there. Another interesting point is, how a being is only perceiving present time. In fact, perceiving present time only is quite a difficult task. But neccessary in case you driving a car. You have to know present time otherwise you would see not only the cars that are currently there but also other cars that had been there in the past.
    Did you notice that I wrote „you have to know present time“. That is exactly what it is. To know.
    There is no other trick than to know. If you do not know, then you perceive nothing. But a being can be triggered to know something that is not factual. You know that your viewpoint is right. The other one is also knowing that his viewpoint is right. „Look at the data“ is not something that will change the persons „know“. Because the „know“ determines his perception of the data. And the mind computes with those data he sees. Difficult? Indeed yes. Maybe it can help a bit.
    You see, an OT has not to be „strong“ or a „powerhouse“. If you master a little bit those things about perceiving and know you are more OT than Superman.

  117. Bitter Defrocked Apostate


  118. Now, the thing is, you have these particles in Scientology that are there because of the tech. If someone alters the tech, you throw the whole group into “wrong particles”.

    The people somewhat aware realize they are suddenly a wrong particle in that group, and they step away. At least, speaking for myself, that is what happened to me. If you are banging into a wall, if you are stuck, if you are unhappy or losing, you are simply a wrong particle in the activity.

    People stay around for various reasons trying to “be right” when there simply is no way to be right for being there against the back drop of all that has changed since they first attached themselves to another 3D that long has ceased to exist.

    I was a right particle when I first walked in the front door. I became a wrong particle in that place over time and change.

    Anyone not qualified to pay for their bridge is a wrong particle in that place. What does that tell you? Most of the class lV Orgs might as well shut the front door this afternoon. They know 95% of the people walking in the front door are not going to cut a check for a million plus, with the required donations, yet, they smile and make good for a book or a div 6 course.

    Anyone that isn’t going to run with the herd is a wrong particle in that place. Anyone who will not contribute to abuse is a wrong particle in that place. Anyone who will stand up to David Miscavige is a wrong particle in that place. Anyone who will not be bullied is a wrong particle in that place.

  119. Hey Steve,

    We’ve shared some interesting times, good and bad, but not in a millions years did I think we’d cross paths here. As I already told you, there will be bumps in the road but I don’t think you have any idea how damn good you’re gonna be feeling from here on out.

    Welcome aboard!

  120. Yo, my brother from the same mother! You just brought a tear to my eye on that one! – tear of joy!! I can’t wait to see in Arizona at thankgiving, where we will roost the desert on our dirt bikes and celebrate our freedom together!

    Keep the shinny side up, and the rubber side down.

    Love always,
    Your twin brother Steve

  121. Simply Revolting


    I love the use of the info from data series and the reminder of the real SPs ‘the real SPs on this planet, the international bankers and their government agencies, the CIA, Interpol, etc and their lapdog controlled media they use to forward their Black PR’ and at the level of trying to block the spiritual liberation of those that want, and are willing to work to rise above it all and do something about it somehow: David Miscavige.

    Enjoy being out of the trap within the trap!

  122. Tony that sums it up beautifully!!! LOL I just can’t even imagine since honestly I left before that shit started. Had to be an introverting experience to say the least.

  123. Thanks for that Kevin!


  124. one of those who see

    I’m sure you are right!

  125. Sorry vinaire, my misduplication.

  126. No problem. 🙂

  127. This is funny:

    I discovered that “Since this redefinition of F/Ns was first incorporated into the Pro Metering and Solo courses, students have been referred to sources as far-fetched as the Art Series, the Marketing Series, a physics text, and The Encyclopedia of Music, in order to understand it.”

    Talk about looking for justification. This shows no understanding of the underlying phenomenon that F/N signifies.


  128. Tom Gallagher


  129. Enjoy. We’ll talk soon. Got a meeting with an OT VIII to attend to. Could another announcement be forthcoming? He-he.

  130. Awesome!

  131. Very interesting George. And, it is very interesting to me, that you think changing someone’s mind is a difficult task. For myself, I have found changing people’s mind a very easy matter. So easy in fact, Hubbard created the anti QandA drill to help people stay focused!

    I get you on the “Know” and “present time”. Once I even stepped into the future. There was nothing there. What a waste of present time.

    I agree that an OT need not be “strong” or a “powerhouse”. Or even competent! I think each person has an idea of what OT would be for them. OT for me just means a tolerance, and a willingness to experience. Willing to experience brings constant shape shifting. For me, that’s OT. To shape shift. However, many people might consider maintaining their shape, or position, an OT ability.

    I haven’t gotten along with every Scientologist I have known, but I have to admit there has been something extraordinary about all of them. It makes me sad when I see any one of them making an effort to be “ordinary”, “good”, or some synthetic beingness that is a supposed “normal for a Scientologist” or “normal for a Sea Org member” or, “Normal for an OT” . Mostly, the Sea Org people have been hardest on one another in expectations. The least forgiving. A sane group would be a forgiving group. A sane terminal would be a forgiving terminal. Holding a position in space that is embedded in a ser fac is a terrible place to put one’s self. But if you will not, you are labeled “reasonable”.

    Reason in the tech dictionary, #3: The ability to extrapolate new data from the existing data. Reason is hand in glove with self determinism. The rehabilitation of a person’s self determinism is the rehabilitation of his ability to reason.

    The current CofS culture, does not encourage self determinism.

    People can only reason their way out of it, just like they reasoned their way into it. Everyone is capable of reason. That is why it is so easy to change a person’s mind. People can reason.

    Nice chatting with you. 🙂

  132. Expecting people to have standard TRs in a coffee shop is a pretty tall order – why risk it? You certainly are not in session.

    People can stir up their own case pretty easily outside session. People can self-list, figure-figure, etc. In the middle of a rundown or a grade, you can have a great session, but because you are in the middle of the grade it is live and sitting there ready to pluck. The wrong place to pluck it is at a coffee klatch.

    But, to the point, it is a point of caring about the PC to ask him or her to not dive into their case by themselves. PC – auditor < bank. This is from Book 1 (actually from Original Thesis) and it is still true.

  133. Yes, that should speed up the lines at the examiner! It will whistle Dixie when the PC realizes how much he loves Big Broth.. er Mr. David Miscavige.

  134. This is so freaking cool! Family re-connected. Friends re-connected. This is the game I signed up for.

  135. Tony,

    Great to be back in comm with you! and thank you for the nice ack!

    it’s been a bit overwhelming today – the out-pouring and feedback of all the theta. I guess I’m just not used to it at all.

    That reminds me, last time I was at Flag, the senior course sup noticed my IAS Patron with Honors gold stamp on my routing form, she looks at me and replied, dead serious. “you need to do more! – meaning of course, contribute MORE MONEY to the IAS.

    ohh, this is really the course sups product and purpose – HAT? EVERY STAFF MEMBER IS A REG…

    Sadly, this is the Culture of Greed and Money Purposed which has become CoM. But of course the money is just the energy needed to KEEP THE SUPPRESSION ALIVE.

  136. Exactly Steve,

    What’s a being doing in the physical universe anyway? He’s organizing it to survive better!

  137. Go directly top jail. You may not pass GO and you will not collect $200.00. Now get out your credit card cause you’re gonna need another 4 intensives to get that god damn FN back!

  138. Steve, I am impressed. You used LRH to do your talking for you. This will resonate with those who are still in and waivering. Source is what will communicate. Great job and thanks for being here.

    ML Tom

  139. Great post, Oracle. Indeed, we all became wrong particles, as the group we signed on with, ceased to exist. That is precisely what occurred.

    Conversely, it was a joy beyond measure to discover that I’m very much still a right particle within my original group, who are now flourishing outside the corporation.

  140. vinaire wrote: “I wonder how this rule is being applied to Celebs without upsetting them too much.

    A few years ago, I was getting auditing at CC Int. After session, I got in line behind about a half dozen people waiting for the Examiner (a good 20 minute wait).

    Shortly after I got in line, a TV celeb had just finished session and was escorted by his auditor directly to the front of the line, cutting in front of the group. Basically, the celeb went right to the examiner without waiting in line like the rest of us.

    So that might be one way they help avoid celebrity upsets. (At least on the days that the “celeb-only examiner” is not available or on post.)

    Though these days, with the auditing at CC Int down to a trickle, I doubt there’s usually much of a line to contend with.

  141. Damn, you’re on fire today. Another spot-on comment.

    Gonna hafta start calling you The Bambino 🙂

  142. Great job, Steve! I got your mass email, which was sent from, same as Susan Crane’s a week or two ago. Don’t know if you are affiliated with them, but they are spreading your good news.

  143. one of those who see

    LOL pefect!

  144. Carol,
    I was on my way home from a six monther and arrived at ‘success’ only to find several folks standing somewhat nervously in line. I peeked around the corner to see the examiner with a face full of sweat and a PC pulling off all sorts of clothes and so on. I thought jeeze, what the hell is going on here. It was very odd. Something was very wrong.

    By the time I got my turn the Success officer was a total wreck. I sat down. The poor guy recognized me and I got the idea of how desperate he was so I made light of the situation. His attention was fixated on the meter, his head moving ever so slightly back and forth with the needle. I counted the three swings and he looked up with a massive sigh of relief …..”Your needle is floating” he stuttered in disbelief. Everyone in line in front of me had failed to F/N. We were all being measured against the METER!!

  145. burnedbutnotbitter

    Ya know, I can not stop reading this blog everyday even when I say to myself I am going to take a break. Too much breaking news….Thank you, Marty and everyone. Thank you, Steve, I read every word of your post although I just mean to scan it….

  146. Oracle,

    We all knew it when you turned yourself loose. Holy cats! You’re totally correct in your assessment. One must reach in order to expand his sphere of influence!

  147. Thanks AR,

    I’ve been obnosing that in scientologists and non-scientologists alike of late.

  148. I know. I’ve had to talk Karry out of leaving me and going to fight Mosey for him several times.

  149. methenandnow

    Seriously – you guys need to publish a thesaurus for people who have never been members. I have no idea what this guy just said. In fact, try as I might (and I read this blog every day) I’m lost about half the time when members write letters and emails to other members. I want to understand it. Using tech… software? hardware? short for technical??? technician?
    So frustrating.

  150. “Passed each other in the tween decks” oh how Vinaire and Mike Rinder give me visuals !
    Vinaire, by the way, you were a very cool examiner.
    If you could see what it was like now……
    5 minutes of sitting at Exams… see it is all on video being watched and the poor examiner does not want an RPF assignment for calling the FN too quickly !
    I kid you not.
    Tech penalties for auditors, examiners..
    1st time calling an FN before 3 needle swings =Committee of Evidence
    2nd time calling an FN before 3 needle swings = RPF
    3rd time calling an FN before 3 needle swings Suppressive Person Declare.
    Not only must the needle swing 3 times, but they must swing in equal
    proportion, 1″ and 1″ and 1″ or 1/2″ 3/4″ and 3/4″ and 3/4″ so
    sayeth Miscavige the Dean of the Golden Age of Tech….

  151. You’re quite the sharpshooter as well, Ronnie. Glad we have the Strategic, Tactical, Infantry, Artillery and Air support though!

    Sadly, we have to do this without a Navy, as the ship was never anything more than a safe base for the IAS – Miscavige’s baby.

  152. Lord have mercy. I think I would have turned and walked, right then and there. What an utter insult to such an upstat person. Just damn…

  153. Tony,

    I just heard something about another WISE vet being out now too. Don’t know where he stands at the moment though.

  154. Wow, wow, wow!

    This is amazing. Both of you guys are to be highly commended for personally breaking the cycle of David Miscavige’s Disconnection policy.

    And anyone who rides a dirt bike is OK in my book, so I already like Allen. (we used to spend our Thanksgivings camping out and riding our dirt bikes in Death Valley – and yes, we did cook a turkey out there!).

  155. I heresay that Greg Hughes runs and business & doesn’t apply the tech. I also think he probably had some major cycles happen to him that he is not talking about. (non-disclosure type things)

  156. You made me cry.

  157. Oracle,

    You and I both personally know how upsetting it was to learn that the flow up the bridge had stopped and the solution was the specious, “NOT’s retread” that everyone was run through and back up to new, newer and newest OTVIII (or bankruptcy, whichever EP is attained first) and what a devastating effect that ultimately had on the public.

    You’re indication was absolutely correct that you should not contribute to that motion. And you did not. You are a being of good will and I’m glad you are here with us.

  158. Steve, what an incredible write-up!

    The out-points can’t be denied, and the LRH references you identified were perfect. The rate of people like yourself, coming out and speaking the truth about what you experienced while trying to reconcile the insanity, is so encouraging. Your write-up will undoubtedly inspire others to come out and as more people do so, the quicker the insanity will end.

    Hardly a day goes by that my husband and i don’t comment about how wonderful it is to be outside the clutches of the CofS! It just keeps getting better and better… Thank you for adding your power to this amazing group of beings!

  159. Steve, I had a little trouble posting a reply and accidentally added a “p” to my signature … Just wanted you to know the note above came from me…


    AND THEY ARE GETTING MORE CASE GAIN! – and they didn’t even get blind-sided by a reg and no parking problems – need I go on?


  161. Using tech… software? hardware? short for technical??? technician?

    Short for ‘technique’, techniques’, or ‘technology’ – as in, the spiritual technology of auditing.

  162. Miscavige inculcates suppressive reasonableness in the organization, as denoted in HCO PL 7 December 1969 II, THE ETHICS OFFICER, HIS CHARACTER, where LRH states:


    The greatest enemy of the E/O is the reasonable person. There are no good reasons for any outness except

    (a) Natural catastrophes (such as earthquakes, lightning, etc.)

    (b) Suppressive persons

    (c) Persons who are PTS to suppressive persons.” -LRH

  163. That failing to F/N by some arbitrary definition is quite an invalidation of the pc or pre-OT. Ugh!


  164. Interesting! Thanks.


  165. Steve a fantastic announcement ! Welcome – nice to have you here.

  166. Surprisingly! there is no problem comparable to this in a Buddhist Sangha. They must be doing something right.


  167. Wow! Complexity! Isn’t that directly proportional to the lack of confront. Where is all this complexity coming from?

    I was finishing the Ethics Specialists Course at Tampa Org in 2005. I did a wonderful job of exchange by Dynamics. The “pc” was ecstatic. But I was taken to task because the size of paper I used to draw the exchange on was not the right size. Can somebody name the Data Series outpoint here? That was the last course I did in today’s COS version of Scientology.

    When I was examining F/Ns at Flag, it was not just the F/N one looked at, but also all other pc indicators. It was obvious if the pc was completed on the auditing action or not. This current dentition of F/N is so mechanical that it has nothing to do with the pc.


  168. Actually, the way I see it, it is the independent Scientologists who are the truly “orthodox” ones. It is the “church” affiliated Scientologists who are the radical, “anything that Miscavige says goes” ones!

  169. this was to the poster talking about, “I’ll bet there are more people on Marty’s site right now than on lines at AOLA

  170. 😉 LMAO – that’s gross (out tech)

  171. Your resignation letter is awesome!!!
    Enjoy your freedom Steve!
    Btw. I have a twin brother to… but he still trapped in… I hope he see the light soon!

    Eugene Francoeur


  173. It does appear that we are the sun, that never sets on Scientology.

  174. Steve – can you get your announcement out to more people? It really hits the nail on the head and you would be helping so many more people get out of the Truman Show. Is there any way? What is your e-mail address and I will send you some email addresses! Thank you!

  175. Thank you. I am glad to be a part of this thinking, feeling, changing, willful, magical tide of Scientology. ARC is sacred.

  176. I knew my good reason was in there somewhere.

    Natural Catastrophe.

  177. Maureen Bolstad Smith tells how the F/N came to be produced on the “Drills Simulator”, she tells the story on another chat site.

    The “F/N” on the Drills Simulatoris machine made, by Luigi, one of the two tech geeks (forget Luigi’s last name, and Bruce Plotz was the other tech geek on the putting together of the Drills Simulator) at the Int Base who “made” the reads and needle reactions that are stored in the memory chips in the “Drills Simulators.”

    She tells how Luigi was complaining that no videos showed any perfect F/Ns, so they machine manufactured the perfect 3 swing F/Ns for the Drills Simulators!!!! And these Drills Simulators, plus the Tech Film movies of the 3 swing F/Ns, both use the machine manufactured 3 wing F/N.

    If would be HUGE if Luigi blew and told what they did.

    The Golden Age of Tech drills simulators, their computer chips have perfect machine manufactured F/Ns..

    And that’s the standard, the Drills Simulator “F/Ns”, there’s one button called the “Fleeting” or “Brief F.N” on the Drills Simulator, and it also has the 3 perfect swings (each swing the same size, like Karen says the current command intention definition of F/N is interpreted).

  178. Awesome Steve. I like the way you put all the LRH references together. This one struck me for some reason. I thinnk this was perhaps what kept me from leaving sooner:

    “A lot of people are on a stuck flow of being sensible and sane — and that winds up in stupidity. So they get reasonable. Their confront of evil isn’t up to it — basically, their confront of outpoints.” HCO P/L 18 March 1977RA Data Series 43RA, Evaluation and Programs (Management Series Vol. 1, p. 167)

  179. Great points Oracle…

    My last association with corporate scientologists was in a sales job I had a number of years ago.
    The owner is a big time “mover” within the church and big donor to all the proper nonLRH programs.
    Your point regarding a sane group being forgiving (as well as rational) has particular meaning for me with regard to this terminal and that group.
    The owner had instituted numerous “policies” obviously patterned on SCN org or SO patterns. The stated purpose of these was to increase sales stats, but really served just to harass and needlessly exhaust and introvert the sales staff.
    Having long proven stats in sales long before coming to this firm and knowing what following many of those rules and programs would do to my stats, I simply ignored many of them. The result being that my sales were among the best in the company and I was promoted many times.
    Of course, my “overts” were eventually revealed to the owner by a rather petty and vindictive individual fully immersed in the “vulture culture” of the church (also a very low produer).
    What happened? I was immediately fired. Did I care? not really, within a year my income was more than 2x what it was with that company. But it really showed me what such people where really about, and i felt sad for them.

  180. Hi Steve!
    You will get used to being a big bad SP. The bots will fear and cower from you. You have ALL the power and they can’t confront you, but you can sure detect and shatter their glibness if they will get in comm.
    It is actually pretty fun once you see that is not very serious.
    The cob had us all pretty fooled for awhile and now we have broken out of his trap and he is sending himself down the chute.
    I hope to see you soon and we can share a few laughs. Do you know any other old time SMS guys that are waking up?
    My email is

  181. Charles "Chuck" Bondi ~ 34 years...

    “Moving On Up a Little Higher”
    Exposing David Miscavige’s crimes one day at a time. . .
    I love it!

  182. Karry Campbell


    Wonderful announcement. Thank you for really laying it down with red on white as well as green on white and black on white. I love the LRH quotes!

    I’m so happy that you’ve made the right choice and not just agreed with all that was going on. That takes some confront and pushing through bank agreement, etc. I understand about the confusion and trying to get through to the truth. It took me over 4 years (more like 10) to really confront the fact that I could no longer trust the church to help me nor anyone else go up either side of the Bridge.


    High ARC,

  183. Karry Campbell


    Your empire is being taken apart piece by piece = missing public and staff are increasing incessantly. The organization of Scientology, as you know it, is doing a death roll all due to your insane, crazed and destructive actions . Boo hoo. Too bad!! Sorry, but I’m enjoying this too much. Wake up and smell the coffee – or better yet, see all the suffering that you are causing so many beings. The damage is endless. Thank’s to your carelessness, all that you’ve done is coming into the view of the world and it’s people are taking note.

    Would hate to be you next life time. Karma is a BITCH!!!

  184. here methen&now, this’ll get you started:

    The application of scientific knowledge for practical purposes, esp. in industry: “computer technology”;
    “recycling technologies”.
    Machinery and equipment developed from such scientific knowledge.
    technics – engineering – technique

    tech·ni·cian (tk-nshn)
    An expert in a technique, as:
    a. One whose occupation requires training in a specific technical process: an electronics technician; an
    automotive technician.
    b. One who is known for skill in an intellectual or artistic technique.

    One can be a technician in just about any field – kung fu, movie-making, medicine, music, cooking, driving,flying an airplane etc etc. It implies that one has skill in the practical application of his knowledge, not just a theoretical knowledge.

  185. Great! Your selections of references were awesome! Welcome out.


  187. Looks like mechanical trumps over human under DM… and a simulator trumps over LRH…

    Times have changed!


  188. Marty, Steve, this entire post has seemingly been appropriated and reposted on
    WAY at the bottom of Steve’s very long (not saying too long) post, the site-owner added an easy-to-miss note that no endorsement by Steve was implied. But frankly, today’s placement of Steve’s reposted epistle on that site made me think for a minute that it was STEVE’S site!

    Doesn’t this kind of wholesale reposting require permission of the author / copyright owner?

  189. scilonschools

    Sorry Lynne, the translation strictly says “The Corruption of the best is the worst”, sort of meaning when the truely good is perverted it is the greatest loss, well I think that is what it means? 🙂

  190. You know this side has won, when we are sitting here laughing and loving.
    The struggle is over and done, when we are reaching and they are shoving.
    We paint the Earth, with reason and birth, not burdened with due apology.
    Riddle undone, so we were the sun, that never set on the Scientology.

  191. Ditto. Thanks, Steve.

  192. Steve thank you for being an independant scientologist . I find by reading this blog i get to the assisness of the suppression of scientology , what it is starts to assis . I think it would be really good if all scientologists read all of Marty’s blog as soon as possible .

  193. Yes the quote is very true. If you study the policy LRH wrote called “ORDERS ILLEGAL AND CROSS HOW TO KEEP OUT OF TROUBLE” LRH stated to finish OEC VOL O and the Data Series Evaluator’s Course as EARLY on actions in one’s carrier as a Scientologist. I took that to heart years ago and did those courses. The wins just keep coming!

  194. Li'll bit of stuff

    hey, vinaire! Nice to “see you” again. The great thing
    I have found about Marty’s blog, is that one can gorge
    oneself on it without adding any calories–hahaha!

    A REALLY free thetan, in the broadest sense of the word,
    would also be free to actualize the full attainment of Grade O, without the fettering of added considerations.
    Quite a formidable, insouciant sort of fellow, and not one
    to bow down to any brand of slave making operations.

    Marty’s blog, it may be said, engenders such insouciance.

    Sticking around for the long haul ( 12 months my tally)
    is definitely calculated to Move (us all) On Up A Little
    Higher. I view it as Marty’s “Cyber Bridge to MOUALH!”


  195. Li'll bit of stuff

    Congratulations on your announcement, Steve!
    Wonderful to see the massive flow of comm from you,
    that effectively returned a couple more truckloads of
    unwanted crate fulls of mind-control cods wallop and kooky
    kool-aid, to the manufacturer–certifiable davie the cyborg
    dictator, presently on an o/d of scotch and delirium inducing
    mantras, (quite undecipherable, btw,)as he continues to go
    through the motions of defying his karma.
    Sleep well tonight, li’ll davie. Tomorrow comes the reckoning!

    Indie 5OO list no # 3O1

  196. I love being mindful wherever I am.


  197. Hey Steve,

    It’s been 27 years. Although I was a staff member for 4 years I was never as dedicated to the Church as you were. It was a sad day when I left and I heard you say goodbye and I knew our friendship was over. I know we probably won’t get together but it made me feel good to see that you and Allen will be together again acting crazy on your bikes. Say hi to him for me and your brother Bill as well. I really enjoyed our times together.

    Jim C

  198. Tony,

    “The cob had us all pretty fooled for awhile and now we have broken out of his trap and he is sending himself down the chute. I hope to see you soon and we can share a few laughs. Do you know any other old time SMS guys that are waking up?”

    “The cob” that one broke me up! I got the perfect image of a Corn Cob (I was raised on a farm) – it was a perfect duplicate of the demented and twisted little mind of one who calls himself COB.
    if you put a corn cob in water it swells and expands over time and eventually just blows up, explodes!
    We are the WATER!

    as Bruce Lee once said, “Flow like water.”

    so listen cob, that pressure in your head…

    on SMS (Sterling Guys) I’m in comm with one, he and wife will be announcing soon and he is in comm with one other and they will then handle a third, and one other with wife is out and not yet announced,and on and on it goes.

    Your old (new) found friend, and freedom fighter in arms,


  199. Jim, I can’t believe it’s you!!

    WOW, we sure did have some really great times! are you in comm with JB?

    why do you say, “we probably won’t get together”?

    email me:


  200. @Steve Poore: I’m under the radar right now. I’d like to wake up my upstat WISE group of friends and some staff members, but they seem to want to hear nothing of it. My closest friends in the church are working on getting me references to help me sort out the confusion. I’m waiting to see if the light bulb goes on about the truth of the happenings of Corporate Scientology with them.

    So, what does it take to wake someone up with a WISE background?
    What does it take to wake someone up with a Staff or Tech background?

    If you were to rely on one reference what would it be?

  201. NO! He needs to stay here and face the music. I am all about justice and it needs to be served here, in a big way. In an extra large bowl with an extra large spoon.

  202. That’s great news Steve!
    Now we can have some good times again eh?
    In case you didn’t know, there is a little REPLY button after the name of every poster on this blog thread. If you push that REPLY button a little box will open up for you to reply in and your reply will be just below the post they made so it is easier to find.
    Have fun with your new found freedom!!

  203. +1. I was going to make the same comment. In my mind, an ‘orthodox’ Scientologist is one who applies KSW, and adheres to standard tech.

  204. Hi Mrs. L. I agree with you. I think it will happen no matter what he does. If he runs he will get it eventually and if he stays he will get it too. Big, BIG spoon!!

  205. Fantastic write up Steve! One of the best I’ve read so far – very well written and so well referenced. Particularly love those from the Data Series. I intend to use this in my continued attempts to wake up one or two others. If this doesn’t do it, I guess I’ll simply have to acknowledge it as yet another outpoint. I think this will help many though. Welcome!

  206. Good for you on doing it, “your way”!

  207. You could start out slowly and point out out-points. Like saying “why are the Orgs so empty?”, “why is it okay for us to get locked in a room and yelled at by …”, “what happened to _________”? (do something to get them to look and then to look on the internet)

  208. theo Sismanides

    An awesome entrance here, Steve, and an awesome exit from the suppressed COS. !

    Your write up is a Standard, in Tech and on Policy Answer to All Scientologists.

    Written in a plain but straightforward way it addresses many many areas of darkness within the Church and how Management and Miscavige is corrupting Scientology.

    A write up that will stand out for those who cannot yet see the light.

    Thank you for joining the Indies, for being a true Scientologist and for what you have been doing.

    Thank you for applying Standard Tech and Policy and for… being able to think straight and mostly See Things as they are.

    For more info on me and how I left and was persecuted back in 2000 for standing up for HCOBs on translations and Standard Tech and Policy on Translations, Google my name and read in the Freezone the 3 parts of my write up, so you have the data as to how COB also twisted the line of Translations and how he managed to slow down the dissemination of Scientology and Dianetics in other languages for many years now. Instead of retaining Sight Translators of UN (United Nations) caliber, as the Translations HCOBs say, he pays PIs to follow good people for years….

    Thank you very much, I thoroughly enjoyed your write up with all the Refs by LRH.

  209. theo Sismanides

    Steve, this is great news! You have the Power of Simplicity in your writing as well as in Acting… Just by applying the basics of ARC and auditing you can recover beings who up to now thought the same way but never made it to confront those situations.

    Thanks Steve, this is so powerful now and Moves Us Quite a lot Higher!

  210. theo Sismanides

    And “The Truth” goes spoken
- chains go broken

    So good… thanks

  211. It seems like forcing oneself to comply with “3 swing” definition of F/N on solo auditing of OT Levels can have serious repercussions. It may result not only in self-invalidation but also in self-conditioning.

    The more I think about it the more enormous the effects of this requirement seems to be.


  212. The following is hell of an outpoint and not just a justification:

    I have heard some say: “The public is out-ethics” or “PTS”, “The society has degraded and that’s why we don’t see floods of raw public…” as an explanation for why there are so few new public on lines.

    It seems like the very situation is being blamed, which Scientology is designed to handle.

    Is it an admission of Scientology’s defeat?


  213. As quoted in the OP, LRH says:

    ““So there is no barrier in Scientology to good communication. There are no fixed convictions across the boards, one way or the other. The only thing you’re invited to do is just, please, understand what is going on. Don’t make a wild guess at it and a fixed conviction and jump down somebody’s throat.”

    It seems that good communication is being suppressed, nay stopped, under the threat of you being considered “out-ethics.”


  214. To me the biggest outpoint is,

    How come the Scientology technology failed to prevent its own corruption in the Church of Scientology?

    Is it that Scientologists failed to apply Scientology technology, or is the why goes deeper?

    Could there be a fatal flaw somewhere in the technology of Scientology itself?

    I know it is blasphemous to consider the last question, but it must be asked and then properly disposed of.

    It cannot be ignored.


  215. Hey Steve,

    A word you will hear frequently in coming days is “decompress.” Throwing yourself off of a moving train is made easier when you realize the train was going down the wrong track – and that there are many people who jumped before us from the same realization. It’s the track that was important, not the train, and the track was only important because of the promise of arriving at a destination with which we all agree.

    Getting back on track is a relief hard to describe, but can be compared to a continuing session of cognition and repair. It gets better as the destination becomes more real.

    Welcome back, old friend. See you soon.


  216. Theo Sismanides

    SamU, just had a cog on lurkers! First, get yourself on safe ground and THEN talk. Them, knowing it’s YOU will have a tremendous cognition. That’s Differentiation on some other plane.

  217. Theo Sismanides

    “Them, knowing it’s YOU, will have a tremendous cognition. ”

    I missed that comma there so I make full sense.

  218. plainoldthetan

    “so they machine manufactured the perfect 3 swing F/Ns for the Drills Simulators!!!! And these Drills Simulators, plus the Tech Film movies of the 3 swing F/Ns, both use the machine manufactured 3 wing F/N.”

    Hence the Miscavige-era stupidity I call “Simulator Dependence”.

    Auditors in the GAT *depend* on what the simulator does, and how it does it, to learn how to audit.

    If the pc doesn’t F/N right, it’s the pc’s fault, not the GAT or the mislearning of auditing tech by the auditor, as taught by Miscavige.

  219. burnedbutnotbitter

    Steve Hall addressed the above issue recently:

  220. No there is not a flaw. It is the inablity and the intention of the people to APPLY it. Technology can sit there all day long and will do nothing if it is not picked up, read, fully understood and applied. See KSW sSeries 1.

  221. Hi Jim it’s me, Bill Poore, Steve’s brother. Where are you living ? email me your phone number and let’s talk.

  222. I am afraid I am looking for an answer that goes beyond simple faith.


  223. Could you please summarize that answer in bullet points.


  224. Thank you for your response. However my answer is not a “faith” answer. It is a practical one. From you statement it is easy to observe that you could use some more information. It would be a good idea to look up in the Tech Dict the definitionof “The cycle of an Overt”. Also it would be advised that you check your Doubt formula as to the subject of Scientology. To me you could not possibly be above Doubt on the subject. Take care.Scientology is not a faith based subject.

  225. Jay, thank you for your instructions. I am very familiar the material that you are pointing out. I have worked closely with Hubbard. Here is my summary assessment of the subject of Scientology:



  226. Thank you for the communication. Your summary is basically a list of general statements. I do not know what actual training you have had in Scientology. I am not with to to check you out on your actual knowledge and application of it, therefore, (with all due respect) your summary becomes a moot point.

  227. Thank you Jay. You are right, it is a general summary. I know that you are lacking data that I have. I may or may not put that data on my blog.

    My purpose is not to convince anybody about how I see things. It is up to each one of us to see things as they really are.


  228. How come the Scientology technology failed to prevent its own corruption in the Church of Scientology?

    I finally came to conclusion that LRH never said anywhere that it was impossible for Church of Scientology to be corrupted. In fact, he gave many examples of how it COULD be corrupted. DM is just following LRH’s script on the various ways to corrupt, and we suckers have just gone along for the ride. Simple as that.

  229. You are right. LRH never said that application of Scientology could not be corrupted. And that is the weakness of Scientology. It is not poka-yoked properly (see poka-yoke in Wikipedia. It is a great concept we use in Engineering).

    We can poka-yoke Scientology using the concept of mindfulness from Buddhism as described here.


    This is most appropriate as Scientology is supposed to be an extension of Buddhism.


  230. Thanks Steve for your obviously well understanding of the definition of “integrity” as per LRH.

    Thanks for your courage and responsibility.



  231. Good point. One thing I never went for that ride. I fought back and left, I followed the policy on the “Safe Point” and the other policy LRH wrote. Things have been just fine ever since.

  232. Hello O.O. It would be more at JT.

  233. Vinaire, I have read your reference to the above. in it you omit tons of facts and are projecting your viewpoint into others. You by your own postings do not know real Scientology as you calim but are realy just a glorified “Glib Student”

  234. These are opinions not backed by any facts. You can do better than that by providing at least one fact.


  235. Isn’t the following an inconsistency?

    (1) Scientology encourages one to think for oneself.

    (2) Those who deviate from Scientology belief are called “squirrels.”

    Is Scientology the absolute truth, or it is a workable truth? Can there be flaws in Scientology? Please join the discussion developing here:





  236. The hallmark of an intelligent society is its ability to ask questions.

    If I am in doubt, I have the right to ask questions.

    A simple act of asking questions is treated as sedition in the Church of Scientology.

    What does that indicate?


  237. I would say: fears about what could be discovered, so covert outpoints, so “a scene” behind, so destructive intention(s), so SP(s)?

  238. And what could be the most basic withhold?

    I would suspect it to be an intention different from what is being projected or advertised.

    Underlying that may lie the failure to get proper results from the application of the subject of Scientology.

    Underlying that may lie a failure of the subject of Scientology to some degree.

    Underlying that may lie an inability to carry out further research to straighten out weaknesses in the subject of Scientology.


  239. David St Lawrence aka oldauditor

    Brian, that is one of the most best summations of the inevitability of corporate Scientology’s demise I have ever seen: “And the power behind this wave is all the broken theta lines on the brink of explosion.”! Since the warped being driving this destruction does not recognize theta lines, he cannot stop the the self destruction of Scientology, Inc.

  240. Communication is the universal solvent” LRH

  241. About “weaknesses in the subject of Scientology” from the present RTC or CoB, what about the “new” definition of a “free needle”?

    Looks to me there is a misunderstood word not yet spot by anybody, as I could have seen until now in the FZ, and of course, far more less in the CoS, that put the CoS the wrong way:

    For me it’s very correct to call any pertinent material to clear conceptually a word.

    So when the CoS call music or physic encyclopaedia, Arts Series (did written by LRH, right?), I see no alter-ise of the Tech, and of the Study Tech especially.

    But, still, I think that the misunderstood word is “rhythmic”.

    I’ve invest this body in its young age in a family which where a few about music. I’ve plaid guitar, piano and drums, but mostly very “intuitively”, except I get very few teaching some times.

    What I can see, it that when Ron wrote:

    “A floating needle is a rhythmic sweep of the dial at a slow, even pace of the needle.

    That’s what an F/N is. No other definition is correct.”

    HCO BULLETIN OF 21 July 1978, Vol XI, page 204.

    The CoS has obviously this logic:

    – The definition of rhythmic, means “which has a rhythm” and specifically, “a regular rhythm”.

    – To have “regularity”, one needs to have several “times”, at least too times that one could compare and says they are similar in their durations.

    – In music, we can’t measure 2 times with 2 “beats” sound only, you need 3 “beats”; like if you measure 2 centimetres, you have 3 marks because of mark of the end.


    When you deal with a needle, or an harm which stands the beats, you can see the “in-between” times and moves, so that you don’t need to wait 3 “beats” to see the regularity of the move of the needle, so that you don’t need to wait 3 sweeps of the dial.

    Dear FZies, I bet that if it is “THE WHY” here, we have a chance now to “as-ise” it and free both pcs and pre-clears from the church of an arbitrary of much bad consequences.

    What do you think?


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