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Monique Rathbun vs. Church of Scientology II

Posted on October 16, 2020 by | Comments Off on Monique Rathbun vs. Church of Scientology II

Recently Tony Backpage Ortega, Leah Remini, Mike Rinder, Ray Jeffrey, and Paul Haggis conducted a coordinated pile on effort to shut me up. It was a resurrection of a propaganda campaign started by them in January 2016. See Monique Rathbun vs. Church of Scientology for background.

 Monique’s former attorney Ray Jeffrey was the lynch pin of the lynch mob campaign. He posed for ‘interviews’ with Ortega, Rinder and Remini providing the big lie that serves as the propaganda narrative’s foundation. Without Jeffrey, there is nothing to campaign and nothing to campaign with. The big lie is that he was suddenly blindsided by Monique’s firing of him in January 2016 with no warning, and no idea why it came, followed by puzzling, ‘hurtful’ words about an innocent, honorable man.

Yet, Jeffrey invents the answer to the ‘mystery’ firing by floating conspiracy theories as to how Monique (at my direction) fired him to settle Monique’s lawsuit with Scientology behind his back. As you shall see, the only behind the back skullduggery was his own. After unethically inventing and broadcasting the big lie, he sanctimoniously claims he can’t give the corroborating evidence for his conspiracy theory because he must protect his client’s privileged communications, clearly communicating that the evidence exists, thus revealing the substance of the alleged communications themselves. Just as Tony Ortega routinely tells his audience that he knows the conspiracy is true, because he has inside Jeffrey information (namely, privileged information unlawfully leaked by Jeffrey). This conduct is far more unethical and treacherous than their implicitly acknowledged prohibition of straight-forward attorney-client privilege breaches.

Jeffrey has eagerly pandered to Ortega to the detriment of his client’s position from the outset of the case. It became so noisome and destructive that a few months into the lawsuit Jeffrey was put on notice to cease his repeated practice of sharing analyses, strategy and even pleadings with Ortega and other ASC members before sharing them with his client. His response? Six and a half more years of it.

Jeffrey has become so confederated with Ortega, the latter effectively serves as his public relations agent. When Jeffrey, Rinder and Remini’s ‘house on the coast’ conspiracy theory was dismantled (See Monique Rathbun vs Church of Scientology), Ortega was quick to defend his comrade in the bunker:  “So the fact that they subsequently bought a modestly priced house in South Texas shouldn’t really be considered proof of one thing or the other. It’s more interesting what Ray pointed out on the podcast this week, that they bought the house and moved down there without even telling their own attorneys! THAT’s much more telling than the fact that they bought a $270,000 house, seems to me.” Ortega’s cult-think ‘heads I win, tails you lose’ argument is based on a falsehood, yet again. Jeffrey would have known had he listened to his partner or his client. But, Jeffrey could not have cared less where we lived. More than a year prior to the move, Jeffrey announced to his client that he was off the case until further notice and went incommunicado. His client was told specifically not to reach out to him. He has yet to have a civil, substantive conversation with his client since, to this day.

This summer Ortega restarted the campaign with a podcast appearance. He repeated on it (and followed up with a post that again paints Ray Jeffrey as an ASC hero and yet another Scientology victim) that Monique suddenly dropped her lawsuit when her attorneys were on the verge of forcing David Miscavige into deposition; proving there was a plot afoot to sabotage the Anti-Scientology Cult (ASC). Even bunker bots with double digit IQs should understand the absurdity of the claim, since the lawyers had their asses handed to them on that issue by an appellate court (despite our repeated efforts to spare them that fate) nearly two years before the suit was terminated. If they read the press of the time they’d have learned that when Jeffrey lost in the appellate court he informed the media that the Miscavige deposition issue was dead. Only six years later does he reverse course on the Remini/Rinder podcast stating the deposition was still a possibility after the appellate court decision. Because, that invented narrative harms his former client.

In fact, Jeffrey sabotaged the deposition issue in the first instance for all time (like so many others in the case)  by reneging on the agreed upon strategy for success, by secreting material witnesses and refusing to use relevant documents that Mike Rinder allegedly stole from Scientology.*  And that continuing obstruction made any future attempt for Miscavige’s deposition with additional evidence impossible. Which is why it has always been Jeffrey’s intractable position – until it served him to smear his client to reverse course – that the issue of Miscavige’s deposition was dead.

To add felony to misdemeanor, Jeffrey claimed as basis for refusal to use the Rinder documents that he was working to protect Mike Rinder’s interests. His argument was that Scientology could come after Rinder criminally if the documents were exposed. At that time, he was re-informed that I had been posting Rinder documents for years on my blog and Scientology hadn’t raised an issue; so, a) why was Rinder’s neck so much more precious than his client, Monique’s?, and b) I thus had already cleared the way for Rinder to stand as if he had some semblance of a back bone. To no avail. When directly confronted with the fact that his position was an exercise of favoring Mike Rinder’s interests over his client Monique Rathbun’s, Jeffrey elected to go with another pea in the ASC pod, Rinder. He implied throughout that he was representing Rinder. Later though, he was forced to acknowledge that Mike Rinder was not even a client of his…until he was again when it later served his purposes…until he wasn’t again when confronted with another conflict of interest issue. It is a dizzying scene trying to keep up with his three-card monte moves. Whether a client or not, Ray Jeffrey flat out attempted to sell his indisputable client down the river to the benefit of third parties, repeatedly.

Ironically, but not surprisingly, when you look under the hood with this krew – it was the very people tampering with witnesses and obstructing documentary evidence (Jeffrey and Rinder) who originated and pushed a faulty strategy for the case in the first place. Jeffrey’s professed wish to become “an Underground Bunker Rock Star” caused him to notice the deposition and litigate the issue for the adoration of the mob over the legitimate purpose of obtaining relevant evidence for his client. They abused Monique’s sincere legal process and rights for the illegitimate purpose of creating an ASC-assclown ruckus in the Scientology camp with a lack of sound factual basis (a classic Abuse of Process).

Interestingly, Mike Rinder had never expressed to me any concern whatsoever about Scientology prosecuting him for stealing documents. Instead, he only ever asserted that he wanted to hold them in reserve when the time came to extort some money from the church. As recounted in the video Mike Rinder Payola, it has always been about the green for him.

In fact, Rinder was cooking up extortion schemes to get rich at the expense of Scientology before the ink was even dry on the original 2009 St Pete Times series. He approached me then with a plan that he dreamed up with his then sugar daddy Robert Amblad. They would hire Scientology’s former real estate advisor to obtain a prime Clearwater property on the same block as the Church of Scientology. He would leak word to Scientology that I was going to set up a reform Church of Scientology there and become their worst possible nightmare. Rinder reckoned he’d create a scenario that would result in Scientology paying over millions for the building to keep me out. I informed Rinder that a) I would not relocate to Clearwater, b) I would not participate in a shake down, and c) I would not accept a single dime from the proceeds if he and his comrades went forward with the plan which he was free to do. Rinder even post-mailed a sealed handwritten note detailing the plan for fear that talking about it on the phone or creating a digital record through e-mail might create evidence of criminally punishable extortion. Click here to see the document “Devious Plan”.

Ortega is such a pathological liar that he told his podcast interviewers that he never accused Monique  and me of settling her lawsuit behind her attorneys’ backs, and even counselled ‘everybody’ (who thought we had) to reconsider their biases. In fact, upon Jeffrey’s first covert-backstabbing-unethical whining about being fired, Ortega immediately headlined “Monique Rathbun Fires her Entire Legal Team – Seeks Settlement.” For the next several months he viciously shot down any bunker commenter who defended Monique or me in the slightest. He even banned commenters for failing to toe the ASC Underground Bunker politburo party line. On several occasions in order to squelch fledgling ideas that maybe he had rushed to judgment on claiming Monique had settled, Ortega resorted to claiming he had inside Jeffrey legal team info that proved we were guilty as charged (he used that ‘I have inside data I can’t ‘yet’ disclose’ ploy as recently as this month). Ortega promoted how devastating a settlement would be to the ex-Scientologist community as it would result in the erasure of all the alleged important legal precedents Monique had attained along the way and what a criminal betrayal it would be to leave Rock Star Ray unrewarded for his hard-won achievement. Ray Jeffrey recently supported Ortega on that score on the Remini/Rinder podcast, with misleading and inaccurate representations.**

Monique Rathbun and I did not seek settlement and never settled. And Ray Jeffrey knew that for a fact, because we explicitly rejected Ray Jeffrey’s request to approach church of scientology counsel to offer settlement in November 2015. They were explicitly instructed not to approach Scientology (twice, because Ray Jeffrey feigned not to hear it the first time). Incidentally, that was only the latest in a long line of attempts by Ray Jeffrey and his krew to twist our arms to settle with Scientology. It literally began within a half hour of the lawsuit being filed. That is notwithstanding Jeffrey’s guarantee he would litigate the case for the fifteen years I assured him it would require. He said he’d been more than compensated already by all the services I had provided him and his clients (gratis) which had netted him a small fortune. Clients whom – contrary to Mike Rinder’s podcast and blog lies – similarly had their arms twisted by Jeffrey to settle out early. And whose respective cases were impossibly bogged until I single-handedly snatched them from the jaws of defeat. So much so that Jeffrey, a member of his family, and his former law partner thanked me repeatedly for single-handedly saving his law firm from financial demise. 

That Monique would be cyber lynched by Ortega, Rinder and Remini for caving to Scientology against the wishes of the crusading ASC lawyers is all the more incredible when one considers the following facts.

In mid November 2015 – after having been prohibited from reaching out to Scientology on bended knee – Ray Jeffrey and his krew asserted to Monique and me that Scientology had approached them to meet with us in order to discuss Monique’s case. The Krew were told that we were always open to listening, but were amenable only to hearing what they had to say. So, they were authorized only to allow for the requested meeting. For six weeks Jeffrey and krew played out a complex web of deceit as to why it was not as simple as sitting down and hearing Scientology’s acquiescence. They insisted we must make all manner of concessions in advance, including a gag order against me, a requirement I snitch on Rinder and others, and assenting to ‘selling’ all asc-friendly court rulings to Scientology. None of his demands were consented to by Monique or me.

After more than a month of weathering Jeffrey’s attempted coercion, we learned that Scientology never did approach Ray Jeffrey concerning settlement as he and his krew had represented.

In fact, Ray Jeffrey approached Scientology waving the white flag before he ever asked Monique’s permission to do so – which permission, again, was explicitly withheld. Ray Jeffrey and krew literally concocted the lie that Scientology approached them for the purpose of covertly nullifying his client’s instruction to not originate settlement. They then spent more than a month continually deceiving and lying to Monique to maintain the fiction that Scientology was aching to settle. Jeffrey choked the gaslighting play by trying to pressure me into agreeing to a gag order, a comprehensive ‘debrief’ and Monique into selling all rulings and opinions in the case.

We subsequently learned that Ray Jeffrey asserted to Scientology that his krew represented me personally and that I wanted him to approach scientology to settle. Ray Jeffrey and krew did not represent me and I had not expressed to him any intention to approach scientology – quite to the contrary.

We subsequently learned that Ray Jeffrey told scientology that I was willing to tell scientology everything I knew about every former scientologist I had encountered. Specifically, Ray Jeffrey told scientology that I had agreed to ‘snitch’ on Mike Rinder as part of a settlement and that I would forever remain silent on the subject of scientology – if the price was right for Ray Jeffrey. Ray Jeffrey got his tit caught in a wringer when he later attempted to get to me to consent to what he had (unbeknownst to us at the time) already offered, which I did not. When his threats did not work on me, and I insisted on a full accounting for all alleged communications between Jeffrey and Scientology, Jeffrey and krew attempted to drive a wedge between Monique and me. That included phoning harassment and threats to her late at night while she was attending to her then-ill two-year-old child. That campaign culminated in termination of Jeffrey and Krew. And, contrary to Jeffrey’s Underground Bunker statements in 2016 and this summer to Remini/Rinder regarding his great love and care for Monique Rathbun, the firing occurred the very day the Krew threatened to quit the next day – in the midst of an imminent Supreme Court filing deadline – if Monique refused to denounce my efforts to get them to cease treating her like a second-class citizen. This harassment was incessant even after Jeffrey and krew had a) informed Monique that she should cease communication with them until she had retained new, independent counsel to review their charge that she had a conflict of interest by listening to her own husband, and b) themselves been put on notice in writing to cease and desist from their continuing attempts to drive a wedge between Monique and her husband.

So, when Ray Jeffrey and krew told Ortega, Remini, Rinder and certain media that they were dumbstruck by the unpredictable blindsiding they were allegedly subjected to, he was flat out lying through his teeth. When Jeffrey claimed that he always got along admirably with Monique, he was lying through his teeth. When he asserted that he never abandoned Monique, he was lying through his teeth. When Mike Rinder told Ortega (which he reported) that he had no information to shed further light on the break up, he was flat out lying through his teeth. And when Tony Ortega added “and I believe him” to Rinder’s claim he was flat out lying through his teeth. The layers and depth of deceit are staggering.

Ray Jeffrey to this day has not admitted any of this to Monique Rathbun or to me in spite of serial demands for full disclosure of his covert, prohibited attempted Scientology settlement actions. Knowing the man’s cowardice and his disregard for truth and ethics, my guess is that he has not even admitted it to some of the vermin riding shotgun for him during the attacks upon Monique and me. However, we do know that Mike Rinder, Leah Remini, and Karen De La Carriere were complicit in Jeffrey’s deceit and Tony Ortega’s campaign to cover Jeffrey’s ass by smearing Monique and me.  The only entity that has attempted to gag me is Ray Jeffrey and his confederates. And no one, them or otherwise, has succeeded to date.

To all those erstwhile ‘friends’ who piled on or sat silent and gawked while Ortega, Rinder, De La Carriere, Ray Jeffrey and Leah Remini attempted to cyber-lynch my wife – you’ve been had. Ray Jeffrey was not prevented from helping critics by keeping all rulings in Monique’s lawsuit intact as they so boldly asserted (while keeping doubters in line with one-liner comments like “I know what really happened”). In fact, Ray Jeffrey attempted to extort Monique and me into consenting to Jeffrey selling exactly that to Scientology. We refused to agree. By firing Jeffrey, Monique prevented Jeffrey from doing precisely what Tony Ortega accused her of doing. Jeffrey and krew expressly intended to sell it to Scientology, and were only prevented from doing so by Monique Rathbun terminating them as counsel. Thus, she whom Jeffrey and Ortega tried to pass off as stabbing the former Scientologist community in the back, wrenched the knife out of the hand of he who did seek to do so, thus preserving the entire record (including all court rulings and opinions) in Monique Rathbun vs. Church of Scientology International, et al.***

Monique Rathbun did precisely the opposite of what Ortega and krew alleged. She was more than magnanimous in her public characterizations of the lawyers given the skullduggery they practiced on her for three years.  Jeffrey should have thanked his lucky stars instead of scurrying like a cornered rat to snipe from the ‘safety’ of the underground bunker. Had they not after the fact gone covertly to Ortega to smear Monique for the next five years, I too would have maintained that magnanimity. Whether it can be restored is their decision alone. It is a simple process. Simply, heed the advice I continually gave them since the year the lawsuit was filed: rise above their juvenile impulses to run with and serve the ass clowns.

As far as Ortega, Rinder, Remini and their ASC bot following is concerned, a simple thank you might have been appropriate instead of the incessant public shaming, blackmail, and harassment Monique received from ASC instead. But, hey what can you expect from a pack of whiny, sniveling, spineless cult members running amok like delinquent gang members desperately clamoring for their next airplane glue high?

* I use the word “alleged” because Rinder’s motives are as murky and clouded as his double-speak. Many of his documents contain manufactured fact. When I questioned him on some of the contradictions, Rinder replied with what became a constant refrain of his, “You know I can’t remember anything, Marty. My memory sucks.”  And by now anyone with a scintilla of intelligence should recognize that. He now makes a living by recounting (often inaccurately even though it is before him in writing) what I allegedly did in Scientology – never about his own conveniently forgotten experiences.

**  Jeffrey’s podcast preening about his alleged epic precedent setting victory on the Anti-SLAPP matter is second-rate Quixotism for two reasons. First, Jeffrey quit the case prior to the Anti-SLAPP proceedings and contributed nothing substantively to the effort. Second, despite ample warning Jeffrey invited the Anti-SLAPP motion in the first place. Although Jeffrey was clearly edited in the Remini/Rinder podcast to omit statements that detract from their invented narrative, one was overlooked. Jeffrey stated that the entire purpose of what Scientology was doing to the Rathbuns was “to shut Marty up.” He apparently conveniently forgot that he fought like a wounded steer for many hours against the demand that he plead the case in exactly that accurate fashion (and throughout the length and breadth of the anti-SLAPP proceedings), so that Scientology could not turn it into a religious or ‘commercial’ dispute. Jeffrey insisted it was critical for ‘optics’ to center stage the Squirrel Busters and their objection to my “competition”, apparently as part of his dream of attaining underground bunker Rock Star status. He did it in the face of being informed over and over that a) the Squirrel Busters were not much more than an entertaining joke from the outset (and were most definitely not what Monique wished to sue about), and b) his pleading would serve as the launching pad for Scientology turning out years of 1st Amendment and intellectual property challenges. When Jeffrey lost the argument for the final time, he came back with the threat that his co-counsel would resign if he didn’t plead it his way. That was how the “Squirrel Busters” protests became the most “important” facet of the case. Of course, that did become the springboard predicted and it lead to two and one half years of litigation on one, single motion. Which to anybody with any common sense, also meant another five or six similar rounds of first amendment litigation on various other motions coming in the future.  Whether on appeal to the Supreme Court, remand to the Appellate Court or trial Court, and repeated ping-ponging between them, the fatally flawed pleading would have been ruthlessly preyed upon for many years to come by the scientology lawyers.  And since Jeffrey as much as admitted the pleading he forced did not reflect the reality of the facts and view of his client on the R/R podcast, perhaps that is why he was so desperate to settle with Scientology as to threaten to abandon his client if she did not abandon her husband. That and his expressed fear that the Supreme Court might well reverse and/or remand. Despite the wall of Underground Bunker dissonance conveying something otherwise, Jeffrey and krew litigated two years to defend something they were pre-warned over and over again would result in exactly that future for them. On the podcast Rinder cloyingly supports Jeffrey’s pitch for herodom. Yet, Rinder himself acknowledged the truth of it on Ortega’s blog before the anti-Slapp was even heard – that Scientology had already achieved their objective, win or lose the motion, by serving up a multi-year delay with the simple dropping of the motion.

***By the by, the idea that there were any precedents worthy of use by any anti-Scientology litigant is another Ortega straw man myth recently contributed to by Jeffrey’s lies on the Remini/Rinder podcast. The appellate court could not have been more case-before-us specific in its finding; and that specific case was as unique at its time as it continues to be unique till this very day. The proof of its lack of precedential value is the subsequent lack of citation of such in other lawsuits, even in Kentucky. These birds are big on sandcastle building, followed by petulant sandcastle smashing.

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Monique Rathbun vs. Church of Scientology

Posted on October 1, 2020 by | Comments Off on Monique Rathbun vs. Church of Scientology

 

In January 2016 Tony Ortega, Ray Jeffrey, and Mike Rinder began a campaign of vilifying Monique Rathbun and me. Aided and abetted by the latter two Ortega falsely accused Monique (and then later me) of settling her lawsuit against the Church of Scientology. For those many who considered that a logical result for a lawsuit, he converted a mundane alleged development into the crime of the century by positioning Ray Jeffrey as a knight in shining Underground Bunker armor who was ‘backstabbed’ by Monique by “fir[ing] her entire legal team, seek[ing] settlement” and “shitting” on Jeffrey and Krew. Jeffrey attempted to corroborate the myth with friendly Ortega “interviews”, false statements to legitimate media, and ‘leaks’ of false information. Consequently, the ASC faithful swallowed the idea that we illicitly settled with Scientology as an article of faith. Long ago, I gave Ortega and krew several opportunities to correct the record. When they didn’t, but seemed to move off the subject, I allowed bygones to be bygones. But, there apparently are no bygones for one-trick-ponies. Recently Ortega was on the podcast trail regurgitating the same rot. His assclown confederates Mike Rinder and Leah Remini joined him, piling on in their own podcast and even dragged Jeffrey out from the boondocks and into the fire. As intended, all of this has resulted in yet more Remini/Rinder/Ortega/Jeffrey inspired vandalism directed at Monique.

So, as clearly invited by the troika and their lawyer, we will expose the falsity of the propaganda campaign and the ASC dirty tricks it was designed to conceal. Before I get to the meat and potatoes of the happenings of 2015/16, I’ll spend this first post addressing the freshest lies of Rinder, Remini and Jeffrey in their podcast and Rinder’s recent post on the subject. They lie at such a blinding clip it is difficult to keep up.

Rinder introduced the Jeffrey podcast on his blog with what served as the foundation for Ortega’s 4 year big lie campaign:

“While the matter was pending before the Texas Supreme Court, Monique Rathbun fired her lawyers and dismissed the lawsuit…

It came as a complete surprise to everyone.

Soon thereafter the Rathbun’s purchased a new home.”

The foundation and the narrative was completely fabricated. When Ray Jeffrey told Ortega in January 2016, and Remini and Rinder in 2020, that he was blinded by surprise with his removal, he was lying like a flatfish. When he pled that he had no idea why he was fired, he was intentionally lying. In 2016 when Ortega reported that Rinder was as surprised as anyone else by the firing, Rinder was lying through his teeth. And Ortega was lying when he quipped about Rinder’s ignorance, “and I believe him.”  In 2016 when Jeffrey dramatically pled to Ortega that he spoke out to assure the ASC bots that he did not abandon Monique Rathbun, he was flat out lying.

Their scientology home purchase tin-foil-hat conspiracy theory is absurd on its face to anyone with a single-digit IQ.  In his post promoting the Jeffrey podcast interview, Rinder discloses the deed to our home.  He states – and restates on the podcast – that we purchased it after Monique’s January 2016 firing of Jeffrey and krew; prima facie ‘evidence’ Scientology paid for our house.  He just invents a false sequence, trusting the bots will ignore their own lying eyes. Take a close look at the document. It is dated nearly an entire year before the krew was fired. This is a perfect example of what Rinder does day in and day out with ‘facts’. That he continuously gets away with it with ASC bot adoration is testament to the cult-like nature of the sect.

Remini and Rinder repeat the oft-repeated Ortega line that yours truly was unemployed and that’s the double proof of pay off. In fact, unlike Rinder, I have been continuously employed in a self-employed capacity since I left Scientology in 2004.  In fact, every penny of the down payment for our home was paid by proceeds of my employment – which had no connection whatsoever with anything even remotely related to Scientology.

What is more insulting is that Mike Rinder knew for a fact that Monique had for years been employed as a high-level executive in a major HMO prior to and at the time of the execution of that deed.  She could have easily paid for it; but didn’t have to because I too, unlike Rinder, was gainfully employed.

Rinder’s second pillar for the conspiracy theory was also used to paint himself as a victim.  (Keep your eye on the ball on this one. It demonstrates how the 25-year head of OSA – Scientology’s legal and intel arm – can act as a victim in a series (Aftermath) for hundreds of thousands of dollars.) That was his invented claims that he was set up for a treacherous backstab by Monique and me.

First, he recalls communications that could never have happened, but in Rinder’s tinfoil clad head. He said “at the same time they stopped communicating with their lawyers and fired them, Marty stopped communicating with me.” He then said that Monique and I allegedly told Rinder and Christi that they should keep their guard down because we ‘would never abandon’ them by doing “anything that would prevent us (Rathbuns) from assisting you (Rinders) in any lawsuits you may bring based on what has happened in the appeals court.”  In fact, Monique and I never spoke to Rinder and Christi on the phone. The last time we even saw them together was three years prior to the appellate court decision and Jeffrey’s firing.  Rinder hadn’t spoken to me on the phone for nearly two years before the decision and the firing of Jeffrey.  So he is either claiming I am clairvoyant,  or – as per usual for this bird – his assertion is pure invention. In either event, Monique and I have yet to do anything to this very day that would “prevent us from assisting (the Rinders) in any lawsuit” they may choose to bring whether based on any appellate decision or otherwise.

Finally, my final communication of any sort with Rinder was in response to Rinder begging me to be his phone pal; and that occurred nearly a year before the firing of Jeffrey. Not only did I reject his offer, I spelled out in detail why it was that I had no desire for him to continue to act as my lapdog. This communication was in writing and sheds light on all of the conspiracy theories alluded to by the entire tin foil hat krew (Remini, Rinder, Ortega, and Jeffrey).  All of them were quite well schooled on my rift with their ilk, years before the canning of the ethics-challenged shyster.  Here it is in full:

On 3/22/2015 at 1:30 AM, howdoesitfeel@hushmail.com wrote:

Mike,
Thanks for this.  I understand your feelings and they are
mutual when it comes to the only thing we potentially still share
in common: defense from a common source of attack. Even there we
fundamentally disagree on how it is best dealt with. Beyond that
for some time now we have gone in directions diametrically opposed.
For three years I have increasingly advocated growing up and out of
the scientology game and transcending the scientology installed ‘us
vs. them’ mentality of the former community.  That resulted in the
former crowd (indie and anti) marginalizing me and my family in
ways I find far more offensive than scientology’s overt efforts to
destroy.  To me, it was sort of like when Malcolm X said he
preferred to deal with Southern whites more than he did Northern
whites; because in the South you knew exactly where you stood,
while in the north they smiled in your face while stabbing you in
the back. Rather than get into the pointless ‘he said, she said’
drama of the ‘arc break handling’ game (a sort of covert control
mechanism in itself incidentally) to explain it all, suffice it to
say that I was plugged in enough to know exactly who said what to
whom till I tired of the silliness of it all.  Ultimately, the
experience validated and strengthened my direction. You clearly
chose to perpetuate and apparently make a living on perpetuation of
the ‘us vs. them’ mentality in the former community.  If you kept
up with my blog you’d know that I consider that regressive and
antithetical to healing and growth. I think you look at its
popularity as validating or empowering somehow. I look at
popularity as more evidence of its pernicious nature, and
ultimately its cancerous effect on growth and dignity. Out of one
pack and into another – reinstituting the mob behavior patterns
intalled by scientology in the first place.  I find that the more
people subscribe to it the less able or willing they are to reason,
heal and grow. I also consider that it strengthens and fortifies
Miscavige and the scientology organization. It is apparent to me
that even Miscavige understands that given the apparent increase in
resources to destroy our family the more I counsel people out of
the scientology fray entirely. Multiple, truly independent,
measured, factual witnesses to abuse – with no vested interest in
scientology’s demise – are far more powerful than anti clubs
obsessing and railing at every scientology faux pas. From an
exterior view, the anti movement and scientology is one big vortex
of hate. And as it continues to regress (and if you were to
dispassionately review the history of the past six years – it most
certainly is a regression) the tone, mentality, and behaviors of
the one-time ‘sides’ becomes increasingly a single mutually (or
self-) perpetuating dissonance. I haven’t drawn these distinctions
between our paths explicitly publicly out of personal respect for
your feelings and livelihood; even though appeals to continue
the’us vs them’ ridicule and hatred game directly competes for
minds that would otherwise be interested in transcendence. So, I
move on. The spontaneous emotions that NBC put on display can be
better understood perhaps now. I walk alone and I trust you
understand why.
Marty

Tony Ortega is fond of saying “Look, who benefits from what Marty Rathbun is saying. That is all you need to know.”  Right, cultic us versus them – and say nothing further – close your mind to it, thought stop!  As much as Remini, Rinder, Jeffrey and Ortega love to speciously argue about my allegedly inexplicable ‘inconsistencies’, that statement to Rinder (which has many times been verbally delivered to Ortega, Jeffrey and Remini) has been as consistent as the Northern Star for as long as they have known me.

 

Make no mistake, it is not my inconsistency – but instead my consistency – that motivates them to smear, lie about and cheat me and Monique Rathbun. That they continue to do so, many years after the fact of my apparent presence in their filthy world, speaks volumes as to the character of each of them.

 

When you see the details of what this krew was really up to in late 2015, early 2016 you may also come to appreciate how heeding my March 2015 advice might have saved one or more of these bots from becoming part of something more destructive and mendacious than those they make a living out of smearing.

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Other People’s Lives

Posted on July 30, 2020 by | Comments Off on Other People’s Lives

reference: The Anti Scientology Cult 2020

Some ASC cultbot twittered me that he thought that it was so “coincidental” that I blogged about ASC shortly after Leah Remini started a podcast series that I must be blogging on behalf of Scientology. Seriously, you culties are less intelligent than bots. Did the cultbot listen to the podcast?  If it had, it would have learned that:

  • Mike Rinder, in spite of being called out on his lack of candor in disclosing a single particular about what he did with his own paws during his twenty-years as head of Scientology’s Office of Special Affairs, had no particulars to give once again. Instead, he waxed authoritatively about acts that I allegedly did during that period. Not surprisingly, he did not even get that right in spite of me having long ago cleared that record.
  • His sugar mommy Remini was so impressed with Rinder’s mini-me routine that she said they would devote more time in their future podcasts to the subject of “Marty Rathbun.”

If cultbot were in the know – his condescending tone toward me indicated he was omniscient – he would have also known that Tony Backpage Ortega had recently blabbed about me on another podcast. As per usual, he lied about and smeared me and my wife in his inimitable smarmy style. Worse, for him and others he resurrected a propaganda campaign against my family.

So, the sequence is unsurprisingly 180 degrees opposite of what bunker mentality apparently agreed upon. As much as the troika would like to make Scientology and others obsess with them – they remain obsessed with me. Remini, Rinder, and their third leg Ortega, are like parasites. They have no lives or stories of their own – so they burrow in and suck the lives out of others for sustenance. They make a living off of disrespecting the lives of others. Other people’s lives for other people’s money. A sadistic, no-responsibility cult.

Having devoted some time to setting the record straight, I had been intent for two years on letting it ride with these mosquitos. But, having no original thoughts or experiences of their own, they remain intent on taking other people’s money by suppressing other people’s lives. They have decided that they cannot apparently make a living without me. Unfortunately that means I will need to do a little more pest spraying.

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How Gullible Can One Get?

Posted on September 19, 2016 by | 327 comments

 

It came to my attention that some fellow gave a youtube lecture about what he called a conflict between Tony Ortega and me. When I went to the video I saw a man calling himself Chris Shelton ‘critical thinker at large.’ It would be difficult to imagine more inflated airs of self-absorbed arrogance than this fellow manages to put on; nor a mind as infected with hive-mentality.

Mr. Shelton claims in the video not to know anything about what went down behind the scenes in the terminations of Monique Rathbun’s lawyers and lawsuit – delivered with a tongue-in-cheek smirk. But, he comes to the authoritative conclusion that I have somehow overreacted to Ortega’s four-month campaign smearing my wife and me over the issue. He concludes it is a function of the damaged former Scientologist mind – a syndrome he claims to be an expert in.

I learned that before these broadcasted profundities Shelton was making the ASC (Anti-Scientology Cult) rounds swearing people to secrecy before giving them the ‘real story’ behind the terminations. He swore the story was obtained straight from Monique’s former lawyer’s mouth. Shelton’s rumor-monger account – if believed – would mean that either Tony Ortega made up and published quotes attributed to Ray Jeffrey about his former client, or that Ray Jeffrey simply lied like a flatfish throughout his ‘exclusive’ Ortega interview. That would be the ‘Quiz Street’ interview where Jeffrey swore he did not have a clue as to which way was up.

Between Ortega’s plethora of claims as to ‘inside knowledge’ and then Shelton’s, it seems they would like the ASC krew to believe that Jeffrey is more like Perez Hilton than Perry Mason.

In either event, it demonstrates that Shelton at best is not playing with a full deck. He delivers psych analyses giving knowingly false premises to support his damning conclusions.

Looking further into Shelton’s gig I learned something remarkable. He has posted dozens of videos pontificating about the damaged minds of Scientologists (current and former). They are delivered with the self-sure authority of an Ivy League shrink.  Paradoxically, Shelton’s principle support for putting out his mass psychiatric diagnoses comes from someone who purports to deliver Scientology services at the highest level of proficiency. Shelton’s benefactor also pays Tony Ortega to, among other things, regularly post Shelton’s ramblings at The Underground Bunker.

More remarkable is that some former Scientologists actually pass around Shelton’s mental-deficiency diagnoses of themselves. Brain dead, and damn proud of it.

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You May Be Right

Posted on July 19, 2016 by | 261 comments

The verdict is in from the anti-scientology community (ASC), Marty Rathbun is crazy.

You can read and hear all about it across several ASC forums.

I accept the diagnosis as it pertains to the scientology (pro and anti) universe.  Insanity is loosely defined as not seeing or accepting the world as it is generally seen and accepted by the majority of people.

I noted in one of my books that the most valuable thing I got from my scientology experience was the ability to disagree.  That is, freedom from the automatic subconscious acceptance of the way others might want me to see or think.  Today I value that faculty more than ever. Modern science has come to understand that people think in narratives.  They accept them and create them and then judge new experience and data against them – much of that narrative building occurring sub consciously.  I reject the anti-scientology narrative as being at least as inaccurate, exaggerated, partisan and hysterical as the official scientology narrative.  That rejection of the former in no way implies an endorsement of the latter.

I find ASC’s resort to the ‘he’s crazy’ defense/offense to be apropos for a perhaps-final teaching moment in this milieu. I will share it notwithstanding the wave of ‘he’s nuts’ that doing so will inevitably provoke.

Those who have observed me and my detractors for very long will recall that the church of scientology preceded ASC in invoking the insanity defense/offense against me.  Remember the words of the immortal Tommy Davis: “He’s a f____ing lunatic!” As truth slowly struggles to the surface as it sometimes is forced to do, I believe you will find that there were two reasons for the copycatting.

First, the folks running the ASC agenda and authoring its narrative (including the insanity defense/offense) are OSA (Office of Special Affairs) trained and bred.  They often boast of their OSA expertise.  One of them makes good money plying it; another dishes out good money lording it over people. They liberally use that acumen to attack those whom they brand as the attackers. They most spiritedly – overtly and covertly – attack the credibility of anyone who might spoil their pity party by spreading that horrible disinfectant called truth.

Second, the ASC agenda setters have not had an original thought sprout in their heads as long as I have known them (and that is a very long time).  They are and have been wholly unoriginal creatures of stimulus-response thought. I only say this after making extraordinary efforts with each to coax them to rise above such patterns – and only now that they’ve decided no good deed ought go unpunished.

And so, some of the conspiracy chatter on ESMB and Underground Bunker that OSA has infiltrated and seized the ASC conversation – requiring vigilant censorship measures by Tony Ortega and Madam ESMB – contains a grain of truth.

What remains to be seen is whether it is the old OSA or the new OSA and whether the former more effectively influences the latter or vice versa.  In either event, my guess is that the losers will be those who cling desperately to their rusting firearms (and narratives) failing to recognize that the war has been over for several years now.

Then again, both Scientology and ASC may be right, I may be crazy.

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Scientology Floggers

Posted on July 2, 2016 by | 615 comments

Within 24 hours of posting “Cyber Cults”, the anti-scientology cyber-cult came unglued. If you haven’t read Cyber Cults and its links, I suggest you do so before reading on. The links are to three thoroughly unrelated people – also unrelated to me – who independently shared experiences of cult-like behavior from flogger (a blogger who flogs the alleged lives of others for money) Tony Ortega. Immediately, Ortega followers zealously rallied to his defense, characterizing the calmly-stated, fact-filled observations I linked to as evil-motivated “attacks” upon their dear leader. What was remarkable was the almost uniform application of an important characteristic of cult behavior.

That is taken from Steve Hassan whom the Ortega cult itself has promoted as quite the authority on cults.  It is, “Make the person feel that problems are always their own fault, never the leader’s or the group’s fault.”  Like so many hyenas, the anti-scientology cult members reactively rallied to attack in Ortega’s defense (ignoring the substance of the observations about his conduct) and viciously went after me and all three of those sharing independent experiences about their leader. We were accused of being Scientology operatives, mentally ill, and a plethora of derogatory epitaphs not fit for re-publication here.

One of Ortega’s more hysterical devotees called for censorship of myself and the other three, then targeted a facebook group (containing more than 400 members critical of scientology) as being fair game for having had the temerity to discuss the substance of my post Cyber Cults. Those pronunciamentos (and their avid acceptance and support by other cyber cultists) demonstrated most of the elements of the following additional Hassan cult characteristic:

Require members to internalize the group’s doctrine as truth
a. Adopting the group’s ‘map of reality’ as reality
b. Instill black and white thinking
c. Decide between good vs. evil
d. Organize people into us vs. them (insiders vs. outsiders)

For any who doubt these characterizations of the reaction to Cyber Cults, they can verify them by reading the thread themselves (or as much as they can stomach) at ex-scientologist message board.  While you read their treatment of the three I linked to along with me, keep in mind another of Hassan’s critical characteristics of a cult:

Promote feelings of guilt or unworthiness, such as
a. Identity guilt
b. You are not living up to your potential
c. Your family is deficient
d. Your past is suspect
e. Your affiliations are unwise
f. Your thoughts, feelings, actions are irrelevant or selfish
g. Social guilt
h. Historical guilt

This is an interesting study in extremism. As Robert Hughes aptly demonstrated in his book Culture of Complaint opposite extremes always seem to have a way of meeting (becoming almost indistinguishable in behavior). On that score, principal stars of the anti-scientology cult are warning people that it is “dangerous” to communicate with me. That’s right, it is dangerous to be exposed to ideas that don’t march lockstep with the cult’s doctrinal black and white, us vs. them mentality.  These include people being promoted by Ortega for working with him on tv specials on scientology disconnection. They apparently are so appalled by scientology’s notion of disconnect that they are actively advising people to disconnect from me.

What I have witnessed personally on the part of the anti-scientology community’s leading lights recently is behavior that makes the average dedicated scientologist seem extraordinarily open-minded and tolerant by comparison.

As a final side note, I noticed a lot of cyber-cultists characterizing my recent posts as some sort of ‘war’ on Tony Ortega and that I wish to engage him in some public debate.  That is another indication of their cult-like, insular belief that the real universe revolves around their play world.  As far as Ortega is concerned I am only preparing the ground to correct the public record he polluted for four months about my family.  He is merely one of thousands of click bait floggers plying his trade as floggers do. I have no intention of changing that – that is fundamentally who he is.  The vermin he carries water for might be another story.  It depends on how they continue to respond and not respond.

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Bunkeroos vs. Scientologists

Posted on June 30, 2016 by | 115 comments

The cult of Tony Ortega has recently surpassed the church of Scientology in dysfunctionally partisan behavior.  I have obtained documentary evidence that Bunkeroos (slavish believers and followers of the word of The Underground Bunker) have been soliciting donations to hire private investigators.  The Bunkeroos are promoting the fulfillment of Tony Ortega’s published suggestions on behalf of Ray Jeffrey that the home of Monique Rathbun and her two-year-old child be put under surveillance.

What is so surreal about this situation is that had Monique Rathbun not selflessly endured similar treatment in the past, Tony Ortega and Ray Jeffrey would have long ago become Scientology road kill.  The same is true for the cluster of vermin who have partnered in the Ortega/Jeffrey campaign against Monique Rathbun.

 

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Cyber Cults

Posted on June 7, 2016 by | 177 comments

 

The New York Times recently covered some interesting phenomena that is happening online, see Frank Bruni – How Facebook Warps Our Worlds. Bruni observes that our newfound abilities to facilely pick villains, jump to judgments and duck/cluster with like-opinionated people (all without showing our faces or even necessarily identifying ourselves) has led to some creepy results. You can see how some of that has played out in the world of scientology – where kettles and pots are becoming increasingly indistinguishable – at the following links:

Goodbye to all that…

Alanzo on Ortega and his Underground Bunker

Tony Ortega and Carmen Llywelyn

 

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Censorship and Hypocrisy

Posted on May 2, 2016 by | 278 comments

Tony Ortega’s blogging campaign against my wife Monique and me over the past three months has resulted in the largest wave of hate we have experienced in several years. We even saw that an erstwhile friend published an unsolicited psychiatric evaluation (including still more falsehoods) to explain our behavior as characterized by Ortega. The following descriptions of Monique (some referred to both her and me) written by Bunker regulars and published by Ortega pretty much sum up the sentiments Ortega has fueled:

  • “Sympathy? I has none.
  • Monique, no respect.  NONE. Sympathy? Nope. I never want to hear from these losers again
  • subservience , irrationality, and paranoia
  • Marty and Miscavige are cut from the same cloth. And Monique? Well, she did marry the guy.
  • I wouldn’t be surprised if the Rathbuns name would surface somewhere in the future when some stuff like the “Panama-papers” are leaked again.
  • classless and nasty (both)
  • Mosey has fallen under thrall of whatever fixed delusion he is living under.
  • Somehow they were turned, Whether from threats or payoffs or some combination of the two.
  • I hope like hell the next Rathbun post will be how Mosey blew the ranch and escaped from Marty.
  • Either Monique is drinking Marty’s kool aid or I think the next thing we will hear about is a divorce.
  • The Rathbuns are as mentally ill as Scientology.
  • I’m very much afraid that the one who is going to end up rueing the day is Monique.
  • Well, she does heve to wake up next to Mr Scilon Warrior every day… I don’t envy her that..
  • I find it hard to maintain any respect or trust for them at this point.”

For those Bunkeroos already sold on Tony’s sexist pitch that Monique is incapable of making decisions of her own, the comments describing me included: “a burning train wreck, a fictional Nazi, a hanging judge, a mini-Hubbard, callous and unrepentant, boy, He’s nuts!, an asshole, FUCKIN DELUSIONAL, Marty doesn’t seem stable, an old alter ego who now embraces Hubbard’s paranoia even worse than before, He may or may not be a sociopath…He is certainly narcissistic and has other qualities that are borderline at the very least, I really think Marty has gone off the deep end too, a little mental illness, he is still “living in his head,”MR loves MR alright – but both stand for Mark Rathbun…He has never stopped playing footsie with his ex-boyfriend, He’s a sack of shit, an asshat selfish prick, some serious fuckery, Marty went nuts, My opinion is that Marty has gone over the edge and is behaving very self-destructively (unfortunately now with people to drag down with him), This appears to be a battle of two narcissists, I believe his hands got very dirty.”  And finally, “I don’t think Marty is stable and that is not an environment to raise a child in.”

In this whirlwind of hysteria that became the Bunker comments section a few days ago, a singularly dissident voice interrupted, briefly.  It was not rude. It was not assertive.  It merely posed a question.  The comment was not made by a friend or ally of ours. It was made by Alanzo, a long-time scientology critic who has unloaded quite a bit of criticism on me over the years.  I thought it was interesting how quickly Bunkeroos sought to label him a troll and dismiss his apparently dangerous, if simple, thought. I re-publish it below for two reasons. I believe that standing alone it serves as a textbook study in phenomena we have explored in-depth on this blog (see e.g., Culture of Complaint, Good vs. Evil, Vortex of Hate, etc).  The second reason for re-publishing, which serves to reinforce the first reason, is that Tony Ortega took it upon himself to censor this thread. He left in the plethora of ill-mannered demands for Monique’s and my necks.  But, he deleted and censored Alanzo.

The deleted/censored thread:

Alanzo

Tony wrote: “In a bizarre document, Monique makes accusations that her former attorneys — Ray Jeffrey, Marc Wiegand, Elliott Cappuccio, and Leslie Hyman — had made it “abundantly clear” that the lawsuit was “not worth it financially,” and that the attorneys had filed defective paperwork that allowed Scientology’s attorneys to file appeals that caused delay.

Note Tony’s word “bizarre” used above to describe the document.

Is this Tony’s bias, or is he just reporting the facts?

Alanzo

chukicita  Alanzo • 29 minutes ago

Perhaps it’s a bit of both. Certainly it’s not a typical document, and the accusations are unexpected and unusual. What word would you have used to describe it?

This is a blog, not a newspaper, and I think Tony does an excellent job of bringing the facts to light and keeping his opinions in check at times, even though he doesn’t have to.

Alanzo  chukicita • 4 minutes ago

I think that the document has to perform an abrupt change in a course of action, and that it should be allowed to speak for itself.

Because this is a blog, and not a newspaper which is supposed to be more objective, I think it is even more important to question Tony’s opinions and to be on the look out for his bias on things and to remember that he has no corner on the truth. Other viewpoints and other opinions exist besides Tony Ortega’s, and sometimes those differing opinions shed more light on the truth, and on Scientology, than Tony Ortega could ever muster.

Everyone is biased in favor of Ray Jeffrey here, and his team of lawyers. And we even have another lawyer as an “expert” giving his opinion about the criticisms of Ray Jeffrey, which, unsurprisingly, are very “pro-lawyer”.

Maybe Monique presented a document to the court which was true, and the criticisms of her former attorneys were justified. Why else would such abrupt action need to be taken? Perhaps we should ask Mr Occam, too?

Do clients normally never disagree with the course of actions taken by their attorneys unless they are insane as Tony and Texas Lawyer have both intimated? Do Tony, or even Texas Lawyer, know the particular situation with her lawyers better than Monique?

No.

So I think this is exactly where Tony, and Texas Lawyer, should keep their biases to themselves. And if they are unable to do that, those biases should be highlighted, and questioned by the “commenting community” here.

That is, if the commenting community here cares about the truth.

Alanzo

L Wrong Hubturd Alanzo • 14 minutes ago

5 comments, 6 votes. I do not think you are the real “Alanzo”

Alanzo  L. Wrong Hubturd • 5 minutes ago

Yes. I am the Real Alanzo. I went into retirement last year when I got news that my best friend had cancer, and I could not imagine wasting my time on anything related to Scientology ever again. So I whacked all my accounts.

But my friend has gotten radiation and chemotherapy and it has lengthened the amount of life he has left to live, and so I felt I could afford a little more Scientology in my life.

chukicita  • 15 minutes ago

Additionally, I think the knee-jerk reaction that somehow Monique was being called insane was not useful at all.

The *behavior* of firing successful lawyers was, in the absence of other information, being called out as inconsistent with the original goals of the lawsuit. Reading over the original blog post, no one called *Monique* insane.

chukicita  • 19 minutes ago

I think it’s important to look at the pattern of behavior that at least on the surface seems to be a thread of cohesion in some litigation that involves Scientology. Perhaps Dr. Occam could call up Bob Minton and Ken Dandar.

If you have facts that contradict, why not offer them up?

L Wrong Hubturd chukicita • 12 minutes ago

I do not think think this is the Alonzo you think it is. I think we have an impostor, here to stir the pot.

Alanzo  L. Wrong Hubturd • 3 minutes ago

Oh, make no mistake: I am here to stir the pot.

Obviously you don’t know the Real Alanzo.

Alanzo

ze moo  • 29 minutes ago

No the word bizarre does fit the situation. This filing shows some no longer pent up anger and distrust of the lawyers involved. The client is not always right, but they do have approve what their lawyers do. It seems that a simmering disagreement has boiled over and this is the result.

It is bizarre to fire your lawyers when they are on a roll. All of the delays and appeals were foreseeable and should have been planed on.

While the legal work is over in this case, the story is not over yet.

Alanzo  ze moo • 15 minutes ago

The pay out of this suit was never going to be unlimited. If you look at Monique’s document as a statement of non-viability of the economics of the lawsuit, I do not think it is bizarre at all.

And I think your description of a “simmering disagreement has boiled over and this is the result.” is pretty accurate. I think Marty has pretty good experience with how Church lawyers operate, and Marty and Monique might not have been listened to as closely as they should have been.

And since Monique stated that they were able to achieve outside of the court what the lawsuit sought to achieve in the court, she dropped the suit.

Sorry. This, if true, is not bizarre.

That is only Tony’s bias showing.

Alanzo

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Tony Ortega – The Underground Bunker

Posted on February 1, 2016 by | 369 comments

Mark my words.  Tony Ortega and his unnamed sources will rue this day when they declared Monique Rathbun as fair game and subjected her to intentional libel.

 

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