Remember the BIG LIE that Mike Rinder alluded to a couple weeks ago in his article on this blog? That LIE serves to perpetuate DM’s ghastly reg machine tactics. That lie justifies habitual felonious behavior on DM’s part. It justifies asking for ever escalating “donations” to DM’s war chest to protect him from the “ogre” that might eat his enterprise up. It justifies his very existence. As his boy Tommy puts it to the media, that lie is the alleged “explosive expansion” the church is experiencing. Sadly, some people are so invested in DM’s game that they want to believe the big lie. The truth is that the Scientology Network is in its sickest state ever.
While the evidence of contraction is plain in virtually any city where Scientology once flourished, some interesting documentary evidence recently surfaced. Now, imagine for a moment that the once-mighty Church of Scientology Mission of Davis was literally begging public for hand outs to pay the staff and cover the rent. Unimaginable, right? Wrong. The proof follows in an email from the Mission Holder of the Mission of Davis to the field. Don’t buy the other propaganda that I or any other independent is “gloating” over this. Quite to the contrary, I find it heartbreaking.
One enemy line DM has broadcast far and wide against me is, “well, he isn’t doing anything about it. Marty isn’t producing a goddamn thing.” Well, I’ll tell you this much. I have personally delivered far more Scientology in the past year than the Mission of Davis. I can say the same of dozens of “Missions” and even some orgs. And I did not beg for a single red cent to do it. Moreover, I know of dozens of independent Scientologists in the field who have done so as well.
I’ll share another fact. If Steve Ferris asked me for guidance, I wouldn’t charge him a single red cent. And I guarantee you if he implemented 1/10th of what I advised, he’d have his place in the black in no time flat. First order of business would be cutting all comm with SMI, IAS, CSI, WUS, OSA, RTC and any other suppressive external influence on the Mission. Second order of business would be to have everyone study and apply Vol 0, OEC. Third order of business would be putting on a single-hatted Treasury Sec to sanely deal with the insane amounts of income they’d be shortly overwhelmed with in exchange for service delivered.
My gratuitous commentary aside, please make sure you are seated before you read the following email from the Mission Holder of the Mission of Davis:
Subject: FW: The Davis Mission Update
We all survive across the Dynamics in our own unique way. But one thing that we have in common with every person in the human race, is we all depend for our ultimate long-term survival upon one special type of person. The auditors and the support staff that keep them behind the e-meter. They clear the planet, while we do our nine to five jobs. They clear us.
Where would we be without the caring staff who got us up to our respective points on the Bridge?
Where would the Bridge be?
We owe a lot to these self-less beings. They don’t ask for much. Except that we flourish and prosper. That seems to be their paycheck. And that we have is dependant upon their having made sure that we won on course and in session.
As you know, a little more than a year ago, the Bridge touched down in a community that was without Scientology for 25 years. Our 1st year anniversary went quietly here in Davis. We had several new starts and the Academy has more students now than it’s ever had.
We are growing!
Our auditor in training, who’s also our supervisor, Mariette Stratton is pounding away at her interneship. And we’re seeing more and more public in here every week. There is no thrill like ushering a new person onto the Bridge.
But to continue putting Scientology back in Davis is taking a bit of energy. Green energy. Money. Cash. Coin of the realm. And we’ve run a bit low. The nuts and bolts of it is, we need a purif (which takes money to get going–ouch!) or an auditor to cover our monthly rent and utilities. Mariette is interning her little heart out. Until we have that nailed down, and perhaps for a while to get the lines grooved in, we depend upon the kindness of the Old Davis Hands scattered across the Planet.
Many of us have raised children. It’s not a short term project. You don’t kick a kid out the front door when he’s 8 months old with a couple of spare bottles of milk and a box of Pampers. You raise them up until somewhere in their late teens or mid-twenties. At that point the expenditures end and you have an independent self-supporting adult.
Starting a mission is like raising that kid. But there is a difference. It doesn’t take 20 years before you begin to get a return flow. We’re getting one now. But it will take a while before that flow is sufficient for the mission to be self-supporting.
Each month we are a little closer to being self-sufficient. In 100 months, we will be flying solo. 50 months from now? We’ll be about half-way there. But our staff can’t be trying to line up money every month to pay the rent! We need to work on what will make us self-sufficient! Getting public on and up the Bridge. So what is the answer? It’s been a real puzzle.
I figured it out while I was singing in the shower. It was that old tune, “100 bottles of beer”. You know the one. “You take one down, pass it around, 99 bottles of beer on the wall etc.” At about 96 I realized that I’d hit on something!
If we can find 15 people to pay $100.00 a month (in March). We’ll cover our FP. But in April, we’ll do a little bit better, so we don’t need $100.00 in April. $99.00 will work fine. And May? $98.00. And each month $1.00 less. That’s what we need. 15 people who care enough about Davis to stay with us as things gradually get better. As we come off the tricycle and get on that two wheeler with training wheels and finally when 15 people write their final check for $1.00 the training wheels will come off and we’ll pedal down the road under our own motivation.
In August we needed 15 people. But now, thanks to Diane Swann, Lisa and John Doughty, Kelly and Lynanne Melhaff, Eric and Mariette Stratton and Phil MacDonald we only need 10 more people. Ten more people to assure the Bridge stays in Davis. It left once. We need your help to make sure it stays here forever.
Our staff is devoted to helping out the students and people of Davis. But they’re not going to be able to keep doing it without your help. However, each month, we’ll need a little less. Each month, it will be a little easier for you as we get a little stronger.
Davis used to be the biggest mission on the planet. 3 Freedom Medal winners call Davis their Alma Mater. The future is bright. But in the short term, it’s still a little overcast.
Davis staff needs your help. And you can help.
Call me or email me right away, please. Time is of the essence.
Steve Ferris
Missionholder
Church of Scientology
Mission of Davis
916-956-9502
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Moving On Up a Little Higher 
My heart goes out to them, so kind, so sincere and they so want to help others. I truly hope they get the help they need, not just monetarily but in terms of eradicating the awful consequences of having the C of S management put them into such dire straits.
Wow!! That is truly sad.
You would think with the “expert” managers that the mission would start to function quickly.
Why doesn’t the upper management help financially with their own fledgling Mission while it is getting it’s self going?
This is very bad PR for the COS and it is a pitiful representation of the the Admin and tech of Scientoloogy that this is allowed to go on.
I have always said that any Org or mission should pay nothing to an upper management body unitl that management team got them solvent and operating. For the public to fund these groups is just a bypass of upper management.
All the problems are starting from the suppressive management by the current “leader” DM.
Alex
Wow,
Is there some LRH policy that covers staff soliciting donations without service in exchange? If so, can someone please post it for me to read?
Centurion
“At that point the expenditures end and you have an independent self-supporting adult.”
Steve Ferris: You will have an “Independent self-supporting adult” if you de-PTS your Mission and disconnect from the (suppressive) powers that be.
So sad the Mission of Davis. From Glory to Poverty, the Mission of Davis. This is where your current leadership has lead you.
With the tech there .. an org HAS to be held down. On source, on policy and in tech it has NO CHOICE but to expand.
Wow.
I really understand this guy.
As you know I was 10 years Executive Director of a mission and I do know how it is the fact of looking at your staff struggling for survival.
Steve Ferris is doing all he can to hold the place together. The dream of clearing the planet is still there.
A unattainable win nevertheless with current management.
He´s going to recieve a SRA in the next hours for this letter for sure.
I will like some of us post data about ONE, only ONE mission doing fine anywhere in the planet. In México there are zero growing big time + solvent.
Anybody?
Are private cameras allowed at the INT base?
Utterly tragic in so many different ways. This truly is a first. With so much technology available to exchange with new public. I’m outraged in so many different ways.
This is so sad and infuriating. While DM lives a life of utter luxury, Steve has to beg to keep his Mission running? This is so very wrong. My heart goes out to Steve as it certainly must be a very tough situation to be in.
God this is a disgrace. Those supporting this are so off policy. This is not Scientology it needs to be called something else. Reward downstats you get downstats and then it will be shut down. All I can say is Steve Ferris has not a clue.
I think it’s interesting that squirrel groups are supposed be the ones that get bad results or don’t get any results at all. That was the reason you are warned against going to a squirrel groups, they can’t get results or might even screw you up.
In other words, you can tell the squirrels because they’re the ones that can’t get results or get bad results. Now, take a look at the church of scientology proper and see if that definition fits them or not.
They are so OFF-SOURCE that the Mission Holder is looking to old drinking songs for answers to expand his mission?
What would LRH do?
This is NOT Scientology by any measure.
Dear Lord! So sad, and so sick. What a reversal of the ideal scene.
Solve It With Scientology.
That’s what LRH would do.
It’s in OEC Vol 3, but I guess no one’s looking there. 😦
Here are a couple:
“If the org slumps…don’t engage in ‘fund-raising’ or ‘selling postcards’ or borrowing money.
Just make more income with Scientology.
It’s a sign of very poor management to seek extraordinary solutions for finance outside Scientology. It has always failed.
For orgs as for pcs ‘Solve It With Scientology’.
Every time I myself have sought to solve financial or personnel in other ways than Scientology I have lost out. So I can tell you from experience that org solvency lies in More Scientology, not patented combs or fund-raising barbeques.”
HCO P/L 24 February 1964, Issue II
Org Programming
(OEC Vol. 7, p. 930)
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For years, the term “donation” referred to payments made by the public for org services—training and processing.
This is covered by the very title of a well-known LRH article:
“So little by little, using donations you give us for your service, your training and your processing, we create little by little areas of sanity.”
The Auditor #51, 1970
What Your Donations Buy
(OEC Vol. 2, p. 106)
For more such references, check out http://www.friendsoflrh.org
The pathetic truth is that DM wrote this e-mail with Steve Ferris’ name on it. In 1982 he got LRH pissed at the Mission Network and used LRH’s upset to destroy the biggest mission in Scn history and the entire network to book. I was staff at Berkeley, which in its own right was bigger than most of today’s orgs. We did 300-500 WDAH a week (paid public) as I recall and had probably 50-60 students on course every night. And we were in awe of Davis. Davis was h-u-g-e. One year there was this game to audit a ton of hours for LRH add one auditor did 100 hours in one week. That’s more than 14 hours a day in the chair. (Yeah, yeah, I know, some of that auditing had to be done at 6 am and some after 10 pm. BFD. That’s not my point.)
If DM had let Martin Samuels carry on, how freaking big would the Davis Mission have become? There’d probably be an AO there today.
But no, DM had to be right. Martin had to go down in flames and be touted far and wide as a Suppressive Person. He only made literally thousands and thousands of Scientologists. I think Martin lives somewhere here in NoCal. Maybe he should call Steve Ferris and give him some advice. Missions were more or less independent back when they were successful. Steve Ferris, that is a hint.
Centurion, of course there is. It’s HCO PL 24 Feb 1964, URGENT, ORG PROGRAMMING.
Page 1
Page 2
This was also excerpted in OEC Vol 3 as “Solve it with Scientology.”
For those of you outside California, Davis is where University of California Davis is located. Their student count is currently over 30,000 students daily! And the Mission can’t get enough students and preclears to pay its bills? I remember the Mission from the 70s when it was a juggernaut!
Same with University of California in Berkeley, CA. Student count is currently 35,000. For any Berkeley Mission alumni from the 70s who remember there once was a vibrant mission there.
And least we forget University of California in LA (Westwood, California). Current student count is currently 38,000! Old alumni may well remember the booming Westwood Mission from the 70s and early 80s. It has been gone for many years now.
We are talking 35 years later the Missions are struggling or long gone. Any expansion in these cities is strictly delusionary.
I can just hear the “think” that could be going on at an upper management area on how to handle this flap: ” They are downstat so WE are NOT going to validate them with money! They will have to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Or better yet, let the public help fund them. The public is just sitting around doing nothing so let them contribute financially!!”
What I think is that upper management doesn’t take responsibility for ensuring that their own staff are winning and flourishing across their dynamics. There is this idea that everyone has to “suffer” for the greater good. This is just downtone think. But if they really believed it then why would DM be gettting paid over 50K a year plus all his perks?? Shouldn’t he be “suffering” along with “his crew”??
Alex
The contagion of donation aberration.
At Pasadena Org in Dec. 07, we were so far behind on rent (3 months at least)that the landlord was going to deliver the eviction notice the following day. What happened? A few of the OTVllls ON STAFF threw in the money for the back rents. I was dumbfounded.
Where was management? All off post selling The Basics of course…
Along this line, it’s so sad to see what became of the once huge Mission of San Francisco (part of COSMOD) that used to be on Sutter St, one of the busiest parts of downtown. The link to its website (last updated in 2006) is http://missionofsanfrancisco.blogspot.com/
Marty’s plan to disconnect from any and all SCN managements such as SMI, OSA etc is actually the only thing Steve needs to do. the rest he knows, and I am sure of that. Not easy and maybe not doable without joining us in the Free Zone.
Having, opened, financed and run my Mission in Bombay, I had the great fortune of being away from the church far enough to be able to do what I knew had to be done.
You would not believe the amount of destructive orders I got. But as said due to the distance I just ignored them and thus expanded.
But as said, this goes only for so long. In the end one has to disconnect and disconnect loudly, so that as many people as possible know about the incompetence or destructiveness (same result) of INT.
Yes, we are 3rd parting INT. after all why not use the tech to destroy what we think is destructive?
I believe that there is a reference where Ron talks about writing KR’ to not be named as a participant, but that in the end this does no real good there as the destructive order still gets executed.
So, my theory always was – just don’t do what does not make sense to you”. And even though sometimes I found out later that I was mistaken with my sense, it was still the better choice as it kept my integrity and thus my sanity. Besides INT was hardly ever right – the example of being wrong ably more to others such as my parents, wife, other bosses etc. having been right.
By the way does anyone know the Pl (I actually think it might be a HCOB) where Ron sais something in the way I mentioned? Can’t find it any more even though I looked.
I think they should call it Harry Palmers “Avatar”, they run their Stars Edge the same way. Harry P. and David M. should get married.
Some back ground is in order here.
Davis Mission was one of the biggest Franchises on the planet.
That is till the “Sea Org Takes Over”
Using the Finance Police as shock troops RTC with the help of as Sarge calls ’em the Mad Dog Committee gutted the whole Network and left an empty shell where Davis Mission once stood.
They transferred the Franchise Office from the GO which despite its bad rep at the time still had an awareness of how to run Franchises (by benign neglect) and transfered it to a bunch of flunkies at SMI who were totally clueless about the difference between an Org and a Franchise and tried to run them like mini orgs.
Davis is still operating off the wrong whys foisted off on them by management and if they continue to stay connected to that suppressive group. They will continue to fail.
Just like Beverly Hills, Santa Barbara, West Wood, etc…..
by the way , I forgot to mention that my wife’s (Hellen Chen OT VIII) FSM Group in Taiwan is growing from what it was like grazy sines our oficial disconection on feb 15th. The staff is also supper happy and can again see the light they signed up for.
I have visited the site of that mission several times, it is only open a few hours a week…one week night and one week end night.
It is not being run like missions of old, but seems to be there just to show the flag…
It is a few doors down from a sushi place that has people waiting outside on the sidewalk to get in….plenty of body traffic and its a college town!
Yes its sad. And maybe a sham too, just so the church can say there is a mission in the town where one of the strongest mission chains ever, once held sway.
Interestingly Davis is also home to a strong independent presence…
Hardly glory to poverty. COSMOD (CoS Missionof Davis) was gutted by the church and closed decades ago.
This Davis mission is a new enterprise, not at all connected to the old powerhouse Martin Samuels created and expanded in the 70’s.
“In 100 months, we will be flying solo. 50 months from now? We’ll be about half-way there. But our staff can’t be trying to line up money every month to pay the rent! We need to work on what will make us self-sufficient! Getting public on and up the Bridge. So what is the answer? It’s been a real puzzle.”
This paragraph isn’t taken out of context and it’s like a parody. Like a drill for people to read on a checksheet to see how many outpoints they can find.
This makes me want to throw up. Not because the guy is totally unhatted on policy or because he’s saying it’ll take over 8 years to “fly solo”, but because the stats, the beatings, crap like this and tons more, and Scientologists aren’t flipping out as a group. Are most of us slaves?
LRH, the stats, common sense and everything says you’ve got to fight back here but people want to wait. For christ sake, once you see the stark black and white picture of what you’re justifying….. lets just say it’ll take some intensives.
We have a chance right now and it’s probably the only chance to turn this around in some way and in some way to make some auditors and ensure Scientology continues. Auditors will never ever ever ever ever be made with a huge mandatory basics runway, and it’s so squirrel. Why wait for a turnaround? That turnaround would have to include auditors being trained in the amounts they were in the 70’s. That’ll never ever happen as long as COB with his basics runway and three swings F/N is in the way. Come on people, go public, it’s a no brainer. It’s not squirrel to do this, it’s your duty, a reference on it is on this site.
Marty, a while back I posted I had gone to the recently opened Ideal Org in my area and that it was empty. Like you, I feel heartbroken. I do not have a computation that would like to see the Org fail so that we can prove DM wrong. I was on staff for many years and I know all too well the reality Mr. Ferris is talking about. My motivation to join staff was a sense of purpose. So I tolerated a lot of hardship. Eventually I got burned out and left in self-defense as my havingness was out the bottom and I felt like a joke. Here I was selling salvation and yet I couldn’t save myself! It took me many years to get over the loss.
But here’s the good news:
Here I’ve found live communication about the subject and I feel my sense of duty is coming back. Only this time is stronger because I’ve been in the trenches and know what the traps are. Sometimes we need to crash so that we can open our eyes, get back up and go at it again. I truly believe we’re making LRH proud with the independent movement. I truly believe we are earning our right to avail ourselves of the gift he left us. But most importantly, we are being there and communicating. We are using the Tech in our lives and keeping it alive ; and that’s what it’s going to take for our religion to survive.
I wonder if Independents have doubled the expansion rate of the CoM without shiny buildings or $100-a-month pledges, just by being kind?
“Davis used to be the biggest mission on the planet.”
You know, the average person would immediately think, “I wonder what the hell happened?”
I usually try to keep things light but there are times when you have to call it like it is.
I apologize if I rattle some bones but it’s appropriate for the post.
For Those Still In
It slips into your life because you let it.
Fully justified, in awe, you wanted to believe,
In a leader for the cause, he took the credit.
While the sages all around you, fell to the dagger up his sleeve.
I’m talking about the midnight darkness
The one that blankets your very soul.
Who takes your pursuit of happiness
Who locks you down, while you willingly pay the toll.
I’m talking about the unborn baby
The one whose mother climbs in the van.
Along with all the others, their minds of doubt and maybe
Laid upon the butcher’s table, to comply with his command.
So often it repeats, history held with such disdain
Like the lines of broken people, transported to their death.
Numb to all their goodness, the guards inflict their pain.
And when it’s time to shower, they’re taking their last breath.
I’m talking about the midnight madness,
The one we’ve often seen before.
He’s the one who brings you sadness
He’s the watchman you hear laughing, behind that thick steel door.
I’m talking about the old man mumbling, who gathers against the wind.
His prime he gave completely, while his usefulness diminishes
He’s alone and without family, dedication his only sin
Offloaded to the State, his presence no one misses.
Evil’s hardly noticed, its edicts are exalted
By those who choose to follow or be among elite.
Hallowed ground after his footsteps, the decisions never faulted.
Blinded eyes in all the glory, by those who tend to sleep.
I’m talking about the midnight messenger
He’s come to forfeit all your rights
To human flesh and ideologue, you are but only passenger
Godless masses bowing to it all, you savor its delights.
I’m talking about the husband, whose wife he truly misses
While she sits amongst her fellows, for imagined crimes they ask
Confessions met with hisses
His longing never over, in a gulag she will task.
You believe the spoken meaning, by priest and politician
Like to a pack of wolves at night, you send the youth to war
Blindness ever giving, to their lies of abolition
Then with all the costs incurred, to God you then implore.
I’m talking about the midnight evil, the marauder of the night
The one who has you sleeping, upon the concrete floor.
The winner he’s become, the one you’ll never fight.
You believe you have no value, internal hope no more.
But let’s talk about that freedom, that urge he tossed aside.
That never ending fire, its there for you to find
The one that melts that deadbolt, for us to come inside,
You will be healed and better, no more pain inside your mind.
Outside amongst your friends, your sun will rise and shine.
There’s a lot of things wrong with that email. The most obvious outpoint is that he’s asking for money and not providing anything in exchange. Total welfare system. But it’s obvious where he gets his “clue” for doing this kind of thing; almost all of C of M now operates this way – Idle Orgs, IAS, Super Power, etc.
When you have all the public’s time, money and effort being diverted away from selling, delivering and going up the Bridge, you get this sort of thing. Another org in Northern California has constant “fundraising” for their idle org building. They’re aren’t delivering service to raise money; instead, they are doing things like “casino nights” and “bowling for dollars”.
I just got out a promo piece the other day for “The IAS World Tour 2010” that’s coming to San Francisco. The IAS now has its own world tour? Really??? All the IAS does is to put out a crappy magazine every couple of months. It used to be that there would be “Flag World Tour” events, and they would be packed with uptone public. Very theta events. I have a feeling a lot of people in the Bay Area are going to be coincidentally out of town that weekend, LOL. The public detests these sort of IAS marathon, crush-regging events (even if the public doesn’t say it publicly while still in the “church”). Hide your credit cards, here comes the IAS!
Imagine this:
you have a business…..lets say a dentistry office. you want to expand into nice places. soooooo everytime you get a patient coming in, you ask for a donation for your building fund!!
anyone ever had this happen to them? didnt think so. imagine your dentist sending you emails to ask for money…..kinda weird right? or is it just me?
it turns out having a charity you represent as part of your business is good PR. of course it is, only if its a charity like cancer research or the salvation army. but not a charity that charitizes your own business!!!
SO sick to read this. But it is the ugly damn MF-ing truth!!!
It makes me think about this Org in Italy that has a couple of millions in the bank raised for the Idle Org, and the Org can’t pull in enough GI to pay for heating in this super cold winter season.
A couple of millions in the bank, and they can’t touch it to survive???
All Staff and Public are wearing coats inside the Org because of this while DM’s dwelling in luxury!!!
One LRH datum I learned stone cold when I was managing orgs was that “You get what you push.”
Management has now taught these EDs that the only way to survive is to ask for handouts. Management doesn’t “Push” them to pick up Vol 0 and apply it. Management doesn’t “push” the EDs to run the Call-in Program or some other program. These people are left to crawl around in the dark looking for a handle. It is really a sad state of affairs.
These poor bastards have spent a fortune opening the doors of the mission and now have to beg to keep them open because management, now that they got their money from them, has abandoned them.
Heartbreaking is right.
I was hoping he was going to ask his public to FSM one person each into the mission.
But why doesn’t it surprise me that he’s just doing what he is being taught by example: get donations for no exchange.
Pathetic that this once thriving mission…..
Darla
Steve Ferris,
I am very sorry to see how desperate you and your staff are! I think it would be a good idea if you do those 3 steps Marty suggested above.
I am a bit confused, you mentioned in your e-mail “We had several new starts and the Academy has more students now than it’s ever had.”
If you have more students and selling services to all these guys and plus all the new ones then why are you begging for money?
Show me a LRH policy on collecting donation without exchange from public?
Why aren’t you following LRH?
Why aren’t you applying the PTS/SP data to yourself and your mission and find the real WHY and spot the actual SP inside the CoS?
Then, handle or disconnect from THE SP.
If you just read LRH and apply his policies and tech to the situation, instead of listening to the “dear leader” and his off-policy orders, I guaranty you and your mission will win and you won’t need to beg for an off-policy donations from your public.
You are right! Davis used to be one of the top missions on the planet, ONLY when it was on source (LRH) but unfortunately since its source became DM, the decline started and it will get even worse if you continue being accessory to DM and his crimes.
Now it is up to you dear Steve Ferris, follow DM and soon close the mission or disconnect from DM so you are able to apply pure LRH tech & policies to your area so everyone wins.
Best of luck!
This is very sickening indeed! Beggarizing scientology is very degrading.
My my my… I feel sorry for this guy who is trying so so hard yet he is not even aware of the real scene going on with Scn. He is fighting an uphill battle, when will the truth be revealed to him?
What do u attribute Mexicos growth to?
This guy is totally incompetent –
He is not applying the right tech .
Ok some hints……
Make a “Legion of honor of Davis” – Invent a title ” Maximus Gladiator Contributor platinum extorsion” and so on – Minum contribution $ 5.000 – On the Davis Mission Accademy course’s chair their name will be written under their but …. come on ! Follow the successfull actions ! Oh forgot… you can even recruit an ex-IAS reg to FSM on it for 10% do not forget that!
Heartbreaking indeed Marty. From my own experience, those who join staff and dedicate themselves to helping others are uniformly wonderful people (with perhaps the odd exception). It is distressing to know that they are having to live in poverty, asking for hand-outs without even the comfort of seeing their dreams come true.
Steve Ferris said, “Davis used to be the biggest mission on the planet.” And now they are reduced to sending out begging letters. Isn’t it obvious to him that the PR he has been fed about the “explosive growth” of Scientology is all a huge lie? Why is it virtually impossible for any CoS organization to be self-sufficient now?
100 months to be able to stand on their own??? Does he not believe in the workability of the Admin Tech?
I don’t know which I find more sad, the fact that staff are living in poverty or the fact that they are still desperately clinging to the lies fed to them because they cannot confront looking at the awful truth.
Yes Marty,
That mailing from Steve Ferris is sad. It is sad to think of the COSMOD, the giant reduced down to this.
In 1982 the evolution started to get all the Mission holders to sign a new License with RTC. This made the mission emphatically subservient to RTC and RTC present time orders. A time machine for signing and returning the new Charter was October 1, 1982
2 weeks later ~~On 14 Oct 1982 the infamous San Francisco Mission Holders Conference was held.
Click here to read some of it and how DM addressed the ED of COSMOD
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Cowen/audit/missions.html
Mission holders are told that they comply to the letter or their charter will be cancelled and if they don’t comply, the will be civilly or criminally prosecuted.
The LRH policy of handling issues within the Church is completely violated and DM’s church has frequently threatened criminal prosecution.
In addition, the INT Finance Police were going to investigate the Missions, audit their books, and for the mission’s PRIVILEGE of this audit the FEE was going to be 15,000 dollars per day, payable in advance, in cash.
Click here to hear Don Larson’s whistleblowing of how it went down ~~
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6454589518364422755&hl=en#docid=-3608301463793011770
Within 10 days after the San Francisco Mission conference, RTC, DM’s henchmen had collected $2 million in cash.
25 missions in the US network shut their doors forever within one week of this purge.
This is incredibly grim, especially the pleading for donations which has similarities to the actions of the IAS and Idle Orgs that make it seem OK.
It’s Mestology tech in “making money”. Wonder if the mission holder has read Green on White?
The Scientology world at large needs to wake up to the fact that the Davis Mission is currently one of the better missions around — I kid you not — it actually has a few staff.
That the once mighty Mission of Davis has fallen
(destroyed directly by Miscavige) is outrageous but what’s truly heartbreaking is the fact that what you see here as the Mission of Davis is about average for our hundreds of missions on planet Earth, and its reduced to begging for rent.
Many of our orgs are in a similar position, rent flaps were the most common situation coming up when I was at management in 2006.
Oh how we have shrunk.
It wasnt the song about beer that inspired him. It was the IAS. Getting others to support you while you do not deliver services has become the SOP. He wants to be an Ideal Org and he needs donors. He just happens to be using some “help buttons” about the Tech person “working her heart out” to get trained and delivering to get that help. Its like a promo peice for save the children. Its all backwards from FP and delivery policies I am familiar with.
Again, his role model is the IAS. Does anyone else sense “camoflaged hole”. Bad policy at the top and bad policy at the bottom. But I am sure it touches a few hearts here as the scene of starving staff is not unfamilar to many a time tract on this blog. The best help we can offer is the tough love Marty suggest about the mission disconnecting from the managment which fails them.
Virgil, astutue observation.
Cowboy Poet, didn’t offend me at all. You tell it like it is. If there are any C&W artists out there, I’d string a line to CP; this cat is a lyrics oracle.
Helmut, I’m interested in this. Alexa blog stats have shown Taiwan to be the 2nd or 3rd most active country on this blog for several months.
RJ, you wrote: “They transferred the Franchise Office from the GO which despite its bad rep at the time still had an awareness of how to run Franchises (by benign neglect) and transfered it to a bunch of flunkies at SMI who were totally clueless about the difference between an Org and a Franchise and tried to run them like mini orgs.” There is much truth to this. The “benign neglect” is precisely what LRH advised for the NW and – irrespective of Mission Holders screaming about too much GOWW control – it was basically what was applied when Missions were two and three times the size of today’s ORGS by conservative estimate.
Dear Helmut, if you need any assistance, don’t esitate to contact me.
Which org is that?
Just a little math: 15 x 100 =$1,500 a month. $1,500 a month?!!!!! Jesus. We go through more than that in an average week. How in the F can staff living in California expect to live on this? How do they pay for personal rent, food, utilities, transportation, etc plus overhead/business expenses for the mission? Jesus.
Next point: would this count as gross income which has to be apportioned to upper management or do they get to keep it much like a server keeps his/her tips–except even they have to tip the IRS, hostess, bartender. How much of the $1,500 goes to DM?
If this financial ploy succeeds, he’s going to send forth an open palm accompanied by a very stern look and the censure, “Next time, you #@^#@**@@ assholes, ask for ten grand with an ASCENDING SCALE! from a hundred people–and no one #@#@^%$#@!!!!! SLEEEEEEEEEEPS UNTIL I GET @##$$#$#$%#%%$$$ $$$$$$$ COMPLIANCE!!!!!!!! AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN DO ANYTHING RIGHT AROUND HERE, YOU @##@$$$$@#@$ing DOWNSTATS? STATS HAVE TO GO UP, NOT DOWN!!!!!!
ps. please forgive me for shouting. I just was laughing so hard that my left little finger slipped over and hit the caps lock–uh, yeah, that’s what happened. Wasn’t me.
Where the F… is the guidance from SMI?
I agree by-passing all upper terminals as first step. If their CF has not been depleted by donation regging they should focus on what can be immediately delivered then apply the Product Debug Checklist from the Debug Series in the Managment Series Vols which include the steps you mentioned Marty.
Many years ago through deciet and lies I was encouraged to open a mission. I told the CO SMI for the region what I needed to get things going as I didn’t have all the resources to make it happen alone. I was told that there were whealthy supporters from the Freewinds and around the planet ready to move forward once we opened the doors.
The first visit I got the Thurs. we opened space was for stats, not how’s it going or do you need any assistance or guidance. The only help I got was from an Ex-Scn believe it or not.
I did a write up to CO SMI Int and Int Mgnt with all the details of the operation. The result was no comm back. So I shortly closed the space and cut my loses. Later I found the same scam perpetrated on a couple others. The SMI terminal was finally investigated and declared some for financial crimes.
The more cherished and important help flows it seems are becoming more and more one-way flows from the existing Scns to the Orgs.
Pro Debug Tech Specialist
In fact the is clear cut LRH policy applicable to the field and the auditors in it, including Missions. It’s in Vol 6. Here it is. It was reissued as policy on 2 Oct 69.
“The field auditor has a right:
I . To his own group.
2. To the loyalty of the people in his group.
3. To send any of his group to a Central Organization for training, coaching or
special processing and have them returned with their group loyalty and
attachment undisturbed.
4. To express his needs and desires for co-operation to a central organization, other
groups or auditors without fear of retribution or reprimand.
5. To place his name and address on the title pages of publications from the central
organization and circulate these in his area.
6. To publications from a central organization at a discount in proportion to the
number he distributes.
7. To respect for his training and experience.
8. To respect for his certificates.
9. To have and to hold his certificates without cancellation by anyone forever.
10. To communicate Scientology and to bring about a civilization for mankind.
By my hand this 21st day of April 1957
L. RON HUBBARD
VERY true.
AND — wasn’t Steve Ferris at that time, Flag staff — formerly in the Flag Bureau – Div 6? From England?
AND didn’t he leave at some point?
AND what happened to the policy of NO former SO staff working in Missions?
(although personally I doubt that that policy was LRH and am glad to see Steve able to contribute)
IF this is the same Steve Ferris then he’s got amnesia for sure and knows that handouts are NOT LRH, no where part of Div 6 policy. He was close to Diana as I recall — I think he might have been over surveys?
WH
So as not to get into pitying Steve Ferris AT ALL — (if this is the same Steve Ferris, from the UK, former SO, Flag Bureau staff)
He’s FULLY hatted on Div 6 policy. Was an exec in the Flag Bureau and knows better.
He’s just gone — errr — can we say — criminal. Remember, it’s not the blind leading the blind.
It’s THE criminal, leading the criminals.
WH
Thank you War and Peace, this data is valuable. 25 missions shut their doors forever in the US within one week!
Now that’s another Highest Ever for DM!!
A lot of things strike me as wrong about the situation in Davis, besides what has been said already.
1) It takes 100 months to get an auditor trained so she can produce G.I.? That’s 8 1/2 years!!!
2) Having to have before you can do.
3) I’ve been through a start-up in the business world. You build staff as you go. Do they have 1 auditor and umpteen admin?
4) I agree that they are PTS.
Grrr. Nuff said.
Dear Helmut, this is great! You are a man of action.
Even if it’s in India or Taiwan or on Mars… hahaha, it doesn’t matter. It counts.
Really I bet all of us are here to help in any way. After all we sell by action as LRH says. So here we are into action.
There are so many auditors sitting around, just waiting for some managers and execs or someone who cares to call them
That’s what we did here in Greece and are going to do it again and again and again. We now have a team because we have an Auditor. And there is so many of them. These are real mission now.
As I have said many times the whole church establishment is our Div 6.
However, there is the rest of the world, too. And boy Helmut you are a pro on that.
I would like to hear more too of those groups you are creating down there.
I have to wordclear some parts to fully get it, haha! But I got many parts and especially the last:
Outside amongst your friends, your sun will rise and shine. 🙂
As others pointed out already, exchange is missing in that email. He could have asked for money to go on account for services, but no attempt he made to deliver any Scientology service for the money.
As an ex cosmod public back in the day….The once powerful Mission of Davis was closed a couple of decades ago in Miscaviges rise to power.
Davis was without scientology for decades, until this new mission, a year and a half old startup open 5 hours a week, that seems to be there just so the Church can say there is still a mission in Davis.
This new Davis mission is open Wednesday and Friday from 5pm till 9:30pm.
FIVE HOURS A WEEK!
I hope he reads this blog, If not I hope some old friends contact him to let him know he is not alone and it is safe to disconnect from the Entities that perpetuate all forms of Abuse and Dishonesty.
War and Peace thank you for the link on “how it went down”. I was new at the time and was volunteering at a Mission in the South Bay and remember is was quite crazy. I could never quite grasp that the Mission Holders were anything but on source and people were going up the bridge then so it made no sense. I do remember staff being ordered to spend the night until they met their quota of people to Flag.
Eye opening to say the least. The truth blows lots of charge. thanks again.
Carol
Marty thank you for this e-mail and your comments on it.
It’s really pathetic, like someone (not a mission, not a group of people, but an individual) who is… alone.
A beggar or a homeless just alone, stranded in the street, not able to produce, with no morale left actually to produce a decent product.
The so called “church” because of its overts has cut it’s members’ reach.
There is no Body Routing, there is no real Div 6 activity, there are a lot of outnesses. People are wasted. But Div 6 is the place it all shows. NO REACH OUT! No new people coming in droves in!
And then I see you recruiting (re-crescere, to grow again) people to stand up and fight before it’s too late and I see Helmut opening missions just by himself and I see Ignazio doing a mission to Greece to audit people to a big win and I see others doing so many great things and I say this is Expansion, this is Scientology.
A few weeks ago, I had an interesting conversation with a highly trained OT-7 friend who’s still in the church and a confidante of many well-known church members, including wealthy types and celebrity OTs of all kinds.
First, I laid out for him all the things I’ve learned online in the last few months about the St. Pete Times and other media stories, the human rights abuses, the church’s non-stats, Marty’s blog, the growing number of Independent resignations, etc.
Then my friend, who’s never, ever been guilty of hyperbole, said, “Everything you’re telling me is fascinating, although I didn’t know about all of it. But I will say this — everybody I know is sick of Miscavige. Every one of my friends is totally done with donations. I think we’ll soon see a big change in church leadership.”
Clearly, conversations other than ours are happening among Scientologists at many different levels of church affiliation and commitment. Clearly, some church members whom Miscavige thinks are his allies are also trying to figure out how to rid themselves of him.
DM must now be experiencing a higher level of paranoia than he’s ever enjoyed before and no longer feels safe anywhere.
Bless his heart!
Just Me
One of the major management problems is marketing DMSMH. The marketing for DMSMH over the last 20 years has been treason quality. And not by accident.
Missions need to be able to sell DMSMH to the raw public by the hundreds of throusands. DMSMH is their lifeblood. But the marketing of the book makes that not only not possible, but is possibly working against selling it.
Instead what gets pushed to the orgs and missions? Basic Books and the ACC lectures to existing public. Not raw, existing. I bet this mission has not sold a DMSMH to raw public in more than one month. Why? Because it is not pushed. ACC and Book Packages to existing public is pushed and that, my friends, is the end of the missions.
There was once an HCO PL called Planetary Dissemination where LRH called selling books to in-the-org public “Preposterous”. He called here, again, to sell books to raw public. Dipshit made this HCO PL go away. Try to find it. It was written by LRH in the magical year of 1982.
“Books make booms” has now been changed to “cannibalize your existing fields while ignoring raw public.”
The mission holders conference was in 1982. That was 28 years ago. The problem with these missions is not from 28 years ago, it is from current squirrel and I do mean squirrel management.
I am going to run Davis Mission by mail and tell them to sell DMSMH all day and all night long. I will give them the 1978 Miami Org Bookselling Hat (10,000 per week).
Marty,
I don’t know about anybody else but I’ve noted it, and I’m a musician and…well, we’ll hopefully arrange something shortly up the line 🙂
That comment should be up by Cowboy Poet’s lyric.
WH,
Yes, he should know this datum and what’s more, know that it is LRH and in an actual Scientology field, that takes precedence. It works. It’s obvious, this is a Must/cant-havige field under consideration 😉
PL 10 Nov 66 Good versus Bad Management:
SUMMARY
Bad management is therefore detectable on these points:
1. The Bills-Cash ratio will be high in bills and low in cash.
2. There is an effort to borrow money rather than earn it.
3. There is a heavy effort to sell assets rather than make money.
4. There is more effort to collect debts, particularly from seniors, than to make new income.
5. There will be an effort to be supported.
6. There will be low affinity in the org for the org and its public.
7. There will be protest and flash-back at efforts to get them solvent.
8. There will be non-compliance with orders of senior management.
The remedy is to:
A. Find the most worker-oriented senior executive and remove him or her.
B. Find the anti-org executives and staff and remove them.
C. Put in the senior posts those who most care what happens to the org.
D. Enjoin and conduct careful financial planning and measures.
E. Remove from executive posts those who object to them or don’t comply (that may have been missed in A and B).
F. Resurrect neglected orders and main programmes and get them complied with.
G. Be exceedingly careful not to appoint people there in the future who don’t care what happens to the org.
It does not much matter how one goes about this. If one wants the org and its staff to prosper, the above measures
must be done and quickly when the Bills-Cash ratio of an org threatens the continuance of it and the staff their jobs.
LRH
This is a whole track “church” dramatization where cardinals live in luxury by taxing the parish priest into poverty.
There’s nothing wrong with missions and Orgs that being allowed to generate income by selling Scientology wouldn’t fix.
But they can’t generate income because they’re bound by the suppressive policies of INT management. And the SMI crowd are totally PTS to RTC so there’s nothing but wrong targetting and upsets on those lines.
I say it all the time but it’s worth again repeating: just get people to hand over a couple hundred bucks for an intensive of Life Repair and watch the roof blow off the place.
Even better, get raw public in the chair for an hour and Fly Ruds. You walk out with an F/N, you’re coming back for more.
It’s sad that the game they’re playing is trying to pay the rent.
Jim, I am not always as smart as I think I am,but
what is to prevent Independants from opening
an ‘Independant Scientology Mission’? Or 2 or…? With all the trained auditors, brilliant execs, etc. Do you think they may do well? You
can get giveaway books from the libraries. Just
wondering.
Thanks Diedre and all who pointed out the LRH references on Org Programming.
I am speechless after reading that reference and then reading that solicitation letter from the Mission.
Does anyone at INT actually READ LRH anymore?
I have friends in Davis. One was on staff at the original Martin Samuels run COSMOD. The
staff then were able to survive on staff pay and even get mortgages, although they were not really that well paid. But they could live on it without moonlighting.
My friend was thinking of university, but decided to work at COSMOD. This was then
generally considered a valid alternative
by society at large.
I visited Davis, its a perfect place to disseminate scn. Loads of young smart students. Ate in their restaurants, drank coffee
in their coffee shops. Browsed their bookshops.
Its a lovely town!
Mission Davis has one auditor interning who is the course sup? Jeez!
I know at least 3 auditors in Davis, one a class VI C/S. Anyone here wants to connect just ask.:)
The current situation of Davis is illustrative of
the situation of COS.
I’ve been promoting Scientology outside COS
” Tech outside COS:” for a decade.
The good news is I still regularly get 25-30
new contacts mostly joining our Freezone forums, and some asking directly for contacts with auditors. Many years ago these included
mostly those high on the bridge, left or declared, astonished to find scn was available
after maybe a 20 year absence. Now almost all
are people new to scn, who I guess go into an org
buy a book , do a div 6 course and are repelled by crush sell or whatever and then look on the net.
Its very heartening to find that this blog is
getting again those high up one or both sides
of the bridge, that my efforts and other FZ efforts don’t usually contact now.
The next may be hard to confront.
For 8 months I’ve been posting promotional posts of success stories on Myspace. I had one
reply applauding the fact that the FZ is directing funds away from COS. All other comments are extremely antagonistic to my posts and thus the
subject of scientology.
Myspace is by definition scn neutral in theory.
This is repeated on quite a few other forums I’ve posted on. Tom Cruise fan sites for example,
and forums for those studying Magick.
I’m talking non scn related forums.
The world hates COS and thus scn.
In general the man on the proverbial Clapham
Omnibus when told by someone that scn is good will violently insult him. I am that man.
And of course I position myself as NOT COS. Most really don’t understand that.
With few exceptions. I must state that almost all the anons I’ve known have been beautifully liberal and comment they are only against abuse.
My experience leads me to believe that COS expansion is now impossible. All stats that can be gathered support that.
Its not clear what will happen to COS. Possibly upcoming lawsuits naming DM will have some enormous effect. I currently think they will be drained of parishioners anyway.
Think “Berlin wall”. A suprise as I recall. Hard to foretell.
The subject of scn will survive in the FZ/independant field. How well is hard to say.
It will need LOTS of work.
The ideas of scn may penetrate further into the mainstream than they have already, such as
Gerbodes work.
COS is though doomed. Rescuing those still involved is I believe universally desired.
When I started at Pasadena Mission in 1978, there were 20 people on the comm course at the time, and the classroom downstairs was pretty full. I gather the org is far, far smaller than that mission was at that time.
Terril, don’t despair. The day will come when the average person can distinguish between the C of S and an independent Scientologist applying the tech to help people. It will come by efforts like your own to carry on using the tech for the purposes it was developed for and for no other motives. A change gonna come.
They might read it, but they sure as heck don’t wordclear if they do. It’s not even excised from the current OEC volumes (though it might be in the new new vols).
Not only are there a lot of people in Davis, there’s a lot of tech people around the greater bay area as well. I keep running into them, but strangely, they’re all out of the CoM….and the mission closest to me (Palo Alto) has moved into smaller quarters with no foot traffic.
There’s no longer any (CoM) Scientology in my county — and I live in a county (San Mateo, between San Francisco and San Jose) that’s previously held at least one mission.
Perhaps it’s an arbitrary on my part, but I’d expect a county of 700,000 people to rate at least a mission….if Scientology were really expanding endlessly the way the CoM claims it is.
This is to share with all of you guys how great it is to be able to service people at their home. They enjoy any minute of their session and feel just a bit upset when the auditor has to leave back home even if for a little while. Auditing works like a bomb when it’s done for the pc. I could easily produce 40 hours in about 10 days. No call in required to find pcs they know I’m available for them and they call me.
Exactly Marty,
Despite the complaints by Mission Holders the GO rarely if ever interfered with Franchise operations, except in legal. An area I’m not too familiar with and probably Larry knows more about, if he decides to grace this discussion could probably fill us in more.
However, I do know that the Legal Branch changed the name from Franchise to Mission for Religious image purposes or as Larry calls it “Religious cloaking”. Yet the change was in name only as Missions still operated under the Franchise agreement and charter as a Franchise operation.
This changed in ’82 when RTC seized control of licensing Franchises and they used the GO’s “benign neglect ” as one of the provocations for doing so.
In other words they made the GO guilty of applying policy!
Before this various SO missions began to interfering with Franchises after Kerry Gleason took over as ED Int and began moving control of US Missions to Flag which almost caused a mutiny that the next ED Int, Bill Franks tried to quell using the 3d Engram Tech from “Notes on the Lectures” (a book that is strangely absent from the current “Basics” line up) which seemed to be handling the dissent somewhat.
The thanks that Bill Franks received from averting this catastrophe was a declare and expulsion for being too soft on these rowdy Mission Holders.
(I guess no good deed goes unpunished)
Anyway, waiting in the wings was WDC and RTC who needed some provocation to “move in” and it came in the person of Kingsley Wimbush and his squirrel “Dedinging Program” ( it’s interesting that Management later embraced Kingsley’s concept that everyone is PTS) which became quite popular on the West Coast.
Now with prima facie “evidence” that the Franchise network was going squirrel they trumped up other charges that they were “cannibalizing public” and withholding their Franchise dues. Both bogus charges since most of the public were in fact moving up the Grade Chart after completing all the services that were available at the Franchise and most Missions where as they had always been doing forwarding their 10 % as part of their Franchise Charter.
Yet WDC and RTC wanted more. They wanted them to fund a huge Dianetic Campaign which was over and above their original agreement!
This is where the Finance Police came in and when the verbal declares started which was directed against the Franchise holders who refused to willingly cooperate by having their books inspected at a cost of $5000.00 per day!
It was just a blatant act of extortion disguised as an effort to get the Franchise network under control and despite the policy of “Ethics and Franchise”, they moved in stripped the whole network like a bunch of avarice locust and basically stole every Franchise from the original holders.
To put it simply it was an act of grand larceny under the cover of “getting in ethics”!
Ever since then the Mission network has been hobbled by continual interference by upper management to turn over their public to Orgs, especially SO Orgs and any Mission that is too successful as in the recent case of BH Mission is hit with heavy ethics.
Not only does this apply to Franchises but to Field Auditors as well. As I’m sure Trey will tell you, if he happens to be lurking here.
This is probably one reason why Missions are glorified Book Stores, because any of their public is immediately ripped off by a higher org and the few who are left are cases that have questionable quals, i.e. illegal PCs, those who have a criminal record as in Type B, former Psyche cases and in many cases those who have been rejected by Flag and other upper orgs who are too tough to handle.
The possible reason why Steve Ferris is coming to the public with hat in hand. Since any “upstat public” he had (by that I mean who could afford services and didn’t require continual handling) have already been ripped off and his left with the dregs.
Like the children of OTC members who figure putting their kids on the STCC or the PTS course or some “Life Improvement Course” is cheaper than day care.
Any way that’s the scene from what I’ve observed and researched.
RJ, Nice sum up.
This is pertinent: A friend of mine, who’s been off-lines for a few years and just got back in comm, told me they’ve just been offered “free auditing” as an enticement to get them back on lines.
What a sales pitch!
This is a terminal who kept originating Clear but kept being told “Not Clear” and eventually blew.
Yes, well, there are many of us who were told we were not Clear (in one way or another) when we were, but this post from Rae on ESMB takes the cake as far as I know:
“I was “Clear” when I got in in early 70s..was NOT Clear in 1978..was Clear in 1979..was NOT Clear in 1989…was Clear in 1989….was NOT Clear in 2003..was Clear in 2003..was NOT Clear in 2004..was Clear in 2004..was NOT Clear in 2007..was Clear in 2007..I doubted I was Clear in 2008..Oh..did I mention that I finished NEW NEW NEW OTVlll in 2003 or that I was on OTVll for 13 yrs starting in 1990…?”
martyrathbun09 // March 1, 2010 at 9:01 pm | Reply
“Terril, don’t despair. The day will come when the average person can distinguish between the C of S and an independent Scientologist applying the tech to help people. It will come by efforts like your own to carry on using the tech for the purposes it was developed for and for no other motives. A change gonna come.”
Not the despairing kind. Been producing and
involved.
Just saying it won’t be easy.
Note I’m not asking for donations. 🙂
IMO DM must be jailed as a start for further
successfull dissem to the world as a whole.
Mockingbird,
Yes, but it still takes 12 years to get a ‘mudpie maker’! DM will get there soon though. Maybe learn to quote the Laws of L&N backwords in spelling too, till he passes the video.
TP, Ok. Don’t create a hidden standard.
Sarge,
I think you are a lot smarter than I think I am 🙂
I gave a quote above from the Rights of a Field Auditor. Now, it seems to me at this point that those are LEGAL rights too. After all, it’s an LRH policy and has ‘trademark protection’.
Put it this way, LRH says nobody, not a one, not even an ‘only one’ can ever cancel a Field Auditor’s certs. That means what it says so how can RTC/DM mount a viable legal argument against any Field Auditor (that is, any person in the field that is a trained auditor) that would contravene LRH? They can’t. If they do, well then we enter in to the facts now don’t we – they are ‘squirrels’ and if that can come out in a court case (which these morons would try) thennnnnn, voila, DM’s proven to be what he is, in court.
Now, I’m not a lawyer, but I’ll be a checkin’ in the OEC over the next couple of days and I’ll wager, there is nothing preventing a field auditor from doing exactly what you have described.
martyrathbun09 // March 1, 2010 at 11:10 pm | Reply
“TP, Ok. Don’t create a hidden standard.”
Don’t really understand this comment.
Please say more. 🙂
That SF mission used to have a whole 5 story building!
I’d say that’s a very smart idea.
There’s a bunch of us wanting an LRH style org and this would force Miscavige to change or die. Imagine running the old successful div 6 courses and there’s 100 auditors on course or in session and Marty’s blog and others are promoting the stats, wins, and keeping us all up to date on any attempted OSA shenanigans. The huge blog presence would be a deciding factor which would enable us to succeed. Plus we could get a protest space and put a huge TV of what’s going on outside an event at the shrine when public are going to their cars, or a million variations.
C of M folks would see OSA attacking a huge delivery operation with no hint of squirreling, via the websites, and we’d get tons of support fast. Maybe starting a paypall account to get the funds to start and to help with any early legal defense is where to start. We might have already reached the info dissemination saturation point and Scientology pretty much as a whole is looking to us waiting for us to fix it. You can bet Miscavige predicted saturation when he directed everyone to these websites with the freedom mag.
I’ll re-arrange my life pretty quickly to get wherever this is and work full time, there’s nothing else nearly as important as saving Scientology. There’s plenty of us with some money to get a building and getting up and running on our own steam would happen in weeks or days.
If DM tries to shut us down the whole Scientology world will see it. We could charter busses to the next event and protest, or maybe it’s based in LA.
Another idea is we could have it based near Davis Mission and we could help them out eventually too when we’re big enough. Having no games condition with them and just a help flow after we’re big; I don’t know, maybe that’s the best way.
Aside from PR, it might work out that we simply turn things around by facilitating people being able to ignore DM. More missions would open on their own afterwards. Infiltration is not a problem, we’re older and wiser and it’d be BPI within hours.
Helmut and his wife are already rolling on something like this apparently, lets do it in the US.
We could start from scratch with an OT OEC/FEBC EC and AC, and a bunch of Class VI’s and VIII’s. When we start “flying solo”, which would be a matter of days or weeks, and no wog job is needed, even more vets would join. Field auditors would be FSMing in more and more people, my god just writing this I’m cogniting on how great this could be.
Marty and Mike and RJ and lots of others can advise on legal matters that come up too. That’s the only real question I have is is this allowed to happen legally? If so then why wait any longer, the iron is hot.
Potential Miscavige solution?
Mandatory 6 month sec checks for everyone!
“Now the powerful confessional technology used on OT 7 is available to everyone!”
That would be a fitting final act of the failing chairman.
I think Marty may have been referring to this line: “IMO DM must be jailed as a start for further
successfull dissem to the world as a whole.”
That could be construed as a hidden standard of what’s needed before dissem happens.
Jim,
you’re an adventurous SOB, aren’t you. I bloody well love it! Dear God, the products we could get and in such numbers. M. Samuels would be rolling up his sleeves and dusting off his rollodex.
It’s just gotta work once then…..
Deirdre, right.
“I will give them the 1978 Miami Org Bookselling Hat (10,000 per week).”
Miscavige’s claims of highest ever book and lecture sales by far must be a lie. I’ve sold Dianetics on the street quite a bit as recent as 06′ and my org’s sales sucked. NY org used to sell 1000 a week (it was fairly brief) but this was with the whole CLO off post helping out (confirmed this myself with D/CO D&E EUS). All other orgs paled in comparison, London and some other org were pretty good for a while as I remember but they petered out.
But what about the books brothers in boston way back when and what about Miami? What about Russia? DM says more books and lectures were sold in the past two years than all previous 50 years combined. Another false report – it’s gotta be.
He’s counting people sending sets to libraries and Scientologists buying packages for their shelves, but even so I’ll lay out why this is a false report. But first this quote handles books to public:
“There was once an HCO PL called Planetary Dissemination where LRH called selling books to in-the-org public “Preposterous”. He called here, again, to sell books to raw public. Dipshit made this HCO PL go away. Try to find it. It was written by LRH in the magical year of 1982.”
Does a revision of the text of the basics negate this policy? No, why would it? Think about it. LRH assumed Scientology public would be buying and reading his books. The correct thing to do is put out an issue explaining the SP typist and nothing more. LRH is talking in this policy about what management pushes. They aren’t to push book on existing public like this, and especially not to the all consuming degree it’s been pushed. So great find Virgil.
This PL is still valid as far as I know. I’ve read it in Bridge Pubs packs I think. Either way I’ve read it for sure.
Jeff Hawkins or maybe Thoughful too if you’re reading this:
Is it really possible that things have changed to that degree without a large successful ad campaign or Barnes and Nobles selling it – and is the current org book sales push bigger than the same org book sales push from the 80’s? In the 80’s there were orgs selling books, book store chains selling, AND huge successful ad campaigns. Now it’s only orgs selling books, and it seems not more successfully than in previous big pushes. Am I wrong?
But not only is DM saying his sales are larger; He’s saying they’re astronomically larger, the past two years dwarfing any previous efforts by light years.
DMSMH got near the top of the bestseller list in the 50’s and 80’s and IT HASN’T RECENTLY, but recently the sales are astronomically larger per DM. Is this another outright false report?
If I say for arguments sake that 1/4 of all these recent books and lecture sales are indeed books sold to raw public, then I can say the following:
1950-2008 —- 60 million DMSMH sold
2008-2010 —- 15 million Dianetics sold (That’s 1/4 of 60 million)
That means over 20,000 DMSMH have been sold per day for the past 4 years because of his push.
Boston in 06′ was amongst the top 5 orgs in the EUS weekly book sales game routinely, and averaged about 25 books sold on the street per week.
If there’s 180 orgs, and each sold 600 books per week for 2 years they would have sold 11,232,000 books.
Each org would have to be a bookselling monster powerhouse and still he’d be over 3 million short of his figure.
But still what about the 60 million figure? That leaves 48,768,000 books and lectures to be sold to Scn public and put in Libraries over the past 2 years (if I assume 60 million DMSMH books were sold from 1950-2006, and that DM has equaled that effort in the past 2 years). The over 48 million books or lectures figure must be moved up higher if you think 1/4 of sales being books to raw public should be more like 1/8th or 1/16th, but still… it’s clearly a false report, any way you slice it (over 66,000 books and lectures sold every single day to non Scientology public over the past 2 years with these calculations).
Here’s a quote from Wiki about Dianetics to get back down to earth:
“According to Nielsen BookScan, the book has sold 52,000 copies between 2001 and 2005”
Here’s DM’s quote from Freedom mag:
“60 million books and lectures distributed in the past two years—more than the combined total in the first 50 years of Dianetics and Scientology”
FALSE REPORT!
A simpler way to go about this is, DM is saying 82,191 books and lectures have been “distributed” every day for the past 2 years.
With 180 org (all missions and field activities falling within the scope of an org’s org board), that’s 456 books and lectures being distributed per org per day.
Even if you count Way to Happiness” booklets, the figure is unreal because before they’re distributed they’re bought and they’re expensive (I bought a bunch last summer).
Even if you have an idea that Bridge pubs and NEP and Int are making up for it in some way, lets say half the orgs aren’t selling anything and Int is off post selling enough to make up the difference. Int and the SO and Service orgs and public picking up the book from newspaper adds etc. – all combined would then be 41,040 books and lectures per day. (90 orgs – 1/2 the orgs not selling so 90X456).
Who’s kidding who, the Freedom mag is a yellow journalism whitewash for DM SUPER high crimes. Get Mad!!!
A really interesting series of statistics to present to DM would be these (assuming that the old Davis Mission didn’t expand by one pc completion, or one auditor graduation in all the years it has been closed) how many pcs and how many auditors would have been produced in the last 38 years, had it been allowed to continue to produce at the numbers of it’s last week of operation? Multiply that by the 38 years of lost production of Martin’s COSMOD. To figure the lost production beyond this, physically hurts.
But whatever the numbers are, they only partially represent the real holocost visited on mankind by DM.
I feel nothing but implacable fury and hatred for this rabid creature.
Hi Alex,
I use the name Alex here also. Would you mind calling yourself Alex 2 or some such so we can be differentiated by other readers?
Alex
This is another factual instance of the contraction of Scientology. In the early 2000’s, after 911, each Each org was to get 10 missions around it.
There were 3 orgs in the bay area (now all are Ideal Orgs) but only a couple of missions; San Jose and Silicon Valley missions in the south plus Palo Alto and Redwood City missions in the north. The plan was to open another 26 missions. There were several false starts in San Mateo and Fremont areas. The only one that made it was SoMa in SF.
Currently SoMa and Palo Alto have both moved locations and have contracted, Palo Alto used to be on a major thoroughfare but is now off the beaten path. Redwood City (formerly Palo Alto after the purges in the 80’s) has closed. I believe Silicon Valley is doing okay but it is not large. San Jose mission has never been very big.
To get the impact of this, Palo Alto is Cindy Feshbach’s mission and I believe she still runs the SF mission (SoMa was hers). She has moved three times in 10 years to smaller quarters. She has the support of many OTVII’s and VIII’s and she appeals to the younger generation. This is a mission that should have succeeded…but it hasn’t and clearly shows the recent reports of huge expansion are just PR, PR, PR. So, ten years later we have the same number of missions, some now contracted supposedly flooding the orgs for this great expansion.
Yes, it is sad. There is nothing more depressing than an empty org. Staff morale must be at an all time low.
Woo~~ ” Taiwan to be the 2nd or 3rd most active country on this blog for several months.” This truly amazes me. I have been passing this blog to many Taiwanese and get no reply. Now I know at least some of them are looking at it. It’s great !
And the poor students who dropped a quality education and entered the Scientology zone. It makes my stomach turn as I dropped out of the university to follow Ron. Worst mistake bar none.
I think this is worth reposting:
A PENNY DOUBLED PRINCIPLE
If a person starts with a penny on the first day, and the penny is doubled every day, at the end of 30 days, the person will have $10,737,418. and some change.
On that 30th day alone, he will receive $5,368,709. Plus 12 cents.
By analogy, if starting from some arbitrary Day One, just ONE person became a Scientologist in the FIRST YEAR, then that number doubled
every year, by each person bringing in just ONE NEW PERSON PER YEAR, after 30 years we would have had 10,737,418 Scientologists, many of whom would likely be Clear or approaching it.
At the end of 39 years, there would have been 5,497,558,016 Scientologists – more than the population of the world in 1990.
A) Dedicated staff members.
B) Workable tech even with bad leadership from up above.
C) Gung-ho public.
Now…
Any other doubt?
You are as usual so right Jimbo!
According to the policy “Field Auditors” formerly a RED you can audit any process you are certified on.
However, here’s the catch. The “Church” and I use the term loosely here, has the legal right to prevent auditing, which they seem to be doing with abandon by shutting down auditors who don’t meet RTC’s false arbitraries.
In other words these guys have taken the place of the AMA, the FDA, the APA and other various sundry Government agencies in effectively shutting down practice in the Field!
Yeah sure you could fight ’em toe to toe in court on the grounds that they are infringing on your First Amendment rights which they are, but its like a grass hopper going up against a lawn mower.
Anyway the way around all this is not to promote the fact you are delivering Scientology (TM) services, even though you are practicing Scientology…..
Get it?
Either that or move to an area that isn’t near a Scientology Org with an active KG…er I mean OSA.
This of course is a temporary solution. Because the way things are going, its doubtful that anyone will be anywhere near a major Org or Mission, like Davis for example that won’t have a “For Sale” sign on it!
When that happens, we’ll be able to move right in and apply the Tech like we did back in the early ’50’s.
Only this time we’ll be a little older and wiser about it. Making sure that little twerps like Miscavige are posted to CF Stamp licker or somewhere nice and safe where they can stay out of trouble and the post of COB or as I like to call it “Clown on Board” is abolished.
Hello Helmut,
Loved your videos, thanks for your voice to add to all our loud ones.
I think one of the refs that covers your theory”just don’t do what does not make sense to you” is covered in HCO PL ORDERS , ILLEGAL AND CROSS
Point 1. If it seems kind of stupid it is probably off-policy or out-tech. Both tech and policy are anything but stupid. Most off-policy and out-tech orders are stupid because they are, at a glance, contrasurvival.
This was one of my favourite stable policies. It pretty much covers the KR bit you mention as well as plenty more.
I, like you was a little distant from the SO and pretty much ignored as much as possible the destructive orders that came my way too.
In the end you do have to walk away publicly and loudly so people do know what is actually going on. Done exactly the way you state in this post.
Sarge, Jim and Boyd H. and the rest of us!
Ohoho!!! I see it coming! I see it coming!!! The U.S. is the most important place for such an activity. There are so many resources there, it would be a hell of a place. And missions onto planet Earth would be much more real.
We could win any legal case because Scientology is a recognized religion and we claim that we are members of that religion not members of that church.
It’s the fact that Scientology is recognized as a religion and we are its members that counts.
So, since we have disagreements on its application by that church we have our own right to practice our recognized religion the way we think should be practiced. And we can provide evidence of the misapplications.
Scientology is not a recognized church in the U.S. it’s a recognized religion. So we have the right to follow that religion they way we think it’s right.
Ohoho, I see it coming!
Notsaware,
I attest to that from first hand experience! Saluti! Are you back now? We’ll be in comm!! 🙂
DM and his henchmen have turned the mission game into one that can’t possibly be won.
Whereas missions used to be one of the most thriving parts of the Scn network, before DM took over, now it seems that the goal of the mission game is to give every mission holder and his or her staff a loss. This makes what others have said the only way to win at delivering Scn in the mission game: disconnect from the totalitarian control system and deliver Scn as part of the independent field. It is impossible to win at the mission game otherwise, as DM is methodlically destroying Scn and the misisons are on the front line and the first targets of the suppressive regime.
Wow, Helmut, that’s very cool. Could this be a new model: whole groups, maybe even whole missions, declare their independence and flourish, prosper and expand under their own determinism, without suppression from “above,” as independent Scientologists?
And by communicating openly, without censorship, without rules, without must-haves and can’t-haves. 🙂
Just the destruction of the Mission of Davis alone would be enough to make DM a bonafide SP. Imagine that he began the destruction of all the successful missions 28 years ago and that the ruination of the whole mission network is merely one of his big “wins.” He’s still at it, 28 years later, destroying everything workable, everything pro-survival, everything wonderful and theta in Scn.
Beautiful, guys! Is it real to postulate a Reformed Church of Scientology, or simply a Reformed Scientology Organization? While everything can be delivered by independents working on their own, there’s certainly power in an organized group. What would have to happen to make this real?
I wonder if people like Martin Samuels would really come out of the woodwork to contribute to this motion. Most of the talent in the Scn world is now outside the church, not in. Hell, most of the talent that made those huge, thriving missions is out here!
One of the keys would be to disseminate the truth that the current church is squirrel. Disseminte the truth like crazy. Then just dare DM to start a lawsuit and have everything come out in court.
Terril,
I think Marty is just saying we shouldn’t consider that DM has to be jailed in order to disseminate successfully. If we have that consideration, then we won’t disseminate successfully until DM is jailed. And if he’s never jailed, there will never be successful dissemination.
It would certainly help for DM to be jailed, no question. But it’s not necessary.
WH,
I don’t know if this is the same Steve Ferris as the UK Steve Ferris, but there was a very good guy in Sacramento named Steve Ferris who I suspect is the COSMOD Steve Ferris. The Sac Steve was a very well intentioned fellow…I can’t speak to his training. Vicki
RJ,
According to copyright law, only ‘original works’ can be protected, NOT the ideas and importantly the procedures or processes described. That issue, the processes goes over into ‘trademark’ issues. That has also been addressed by the courts in the US re RTC’s rights being infringed. I can direct anyone interested to the case covering this.
There is a website that covers exactly what the Hague ruled on this also and if anyone wants the link, contact me.
Luckily, D, I knew I was Clear when I did a this-lifetime CCRD. But even with that knowledge, my auditor – who fell asleep on me several times – kept indicating Not Clear. I blew, then an OT VIII friend dragged me back in and I got sorted.
All I was looking for was an ack!
“Anyway the way around all this is not to promote the fact you are delivering Scientology (TM) services, even though you are practicing Scientology…..”
I don’t understand RJ. I thought anyone could audit anything they want. Is it allowed to open a Mission and use church materials? CBR did it.
Funny thing is….I have been posting on the internet about scientology for almost 10 years now and people think your posts are me….I have literally thousands of posts under the name…But sure, you used the name alex here first, so have at it. You’re probably getting enough grief from people thinking you are me! My email is readily available if you or anyone wants…. alexrsingh@gmail.com
Tone 41, I am glad you are here.
You know there is even tone 45, no offense (haha). I am mentioning this many times to get people to see what is the tone level needed, but Tone 41 suits us very well too. It’s way up on the scale and you are an example of that.
I agree. We should disseminate like crazy (Tone 45 maybe?).
If DM starts a lawsuit we should be ready to support that or those guys who would be sued. That is the only weak point of an OT. Failure to organize with other OTs and that he lost against humanoid groups which were better organized. You don’t need to be a robot to be a member of a group. The engram and the joke that passes for a “member” of a team in the C of M stops right here. We are individuals but members of a team at the same time.
So, if let’s say DM now sues us for getting auditing here in Greece, who is going to come and help us? This is the question. Or if he comes your or someone else’s way, are we prepared to help out by testimonies, money, other lawsuits, physical appearance on the ground to support the guy etc. etc. ?
Si vis pacem para bellum! (Latin proverb, if you want peace prepare war). Sorry we have to have some force here and I do not agree with those who do not immediately de-PTS themselves right now and proceed to the next step, i.e. put their names on that 500 list and then to the next and to the next step. I am sure there are even people who have seen or don’t know the 500 names list of Independents. If some don’t feel PTS they should do it right away, not everyone can be a spy these days when there are not enough soldiers. On a face to face battle you don’t fight the enemy with spies, you fight with whatever you have and you better have a machine gun these days.
This is a very dangerous situation we are into. It’s very fragile. The Price of Freedom applies. We now have a little window opening up for us and for Scientology again. Are we just going to let someone shut it on us again?
Si vis pacem para bellum and the Price of Freedom for me are the same thing. We have to be constantly alert, we have to be willing to fight back. You cannot fight with straws or just with “spies”!!! We have to de-PTS ourselves right now. This is not an elitistic group full of spies and bosses, this is a group fighting to get back our own philosophy I should say better than religion. We have a right to have our philosophy back intact.
Every moment counts, everyone stepping out of line and putting his shoulder to the wheel is important. Why? Because what doesn’t go up, goes down in this Universe. There is no stability in this universe. You either go up or you go down. We have gained some little momentum right now. We need more steam to pull it off.
RATIONALITY, 1. is ability to recognize and meet the magnitude of effort
(counter-effort) being applied to the individual.
(DAB, Vol. II, p. 100, 1951-52)
(From the Tech Dictionary)
So anytime we haven’t met that effort (counter-effort) being applied to us, we became to that degree irrational. I don’t want to go more crazy than this. Thank you. There is either some rules here or this is not going to make it.
Do not think that Theta won’t cave back in. It takes a continuous effort and postulatingness to keep it afloat. Maybe and probably so, we are coming up the conditions and we are now moving into a new higher condition as a group. Definitely a lot moved out of Doubt and did the complete formula. That has brought us up higher. I do not want to point out a specific condition for the whole group but there is one. You know that. I don’t know which one is but there is one.
Thetans go with who they think is a winner. We are winning now but have to continue to win over what passes for Scientology in the church.
Thinking about it or being very figure figure about it won’t help a bit. On the contrary, it brings everybody else down. Death starts at Conservatism. So, the helll with the conservatism and those computations like “we should be careful not to announce that we do auditing” or “I am just thinking to put my name up on that list but then why should I do it?” Just do it, do it, do it, and get others, many others to do the same thing. It’s a numbers game up to a point.
This is why Europe and Russia and now the Far East (see the example of Helmut and his missions in Bogota and Taiwan) are/were more active in the Freezone/Independent Field. This is why CBR came over here in Europe. To be far away from a restimulative ground, far from the SPs.
If the U.S. wakes up then the game will be taken. There are so many powerful resources there that it’s going to be a different level of a game.
Now the U.S. starts de-PTSing. I am talking about Scientologists in the U.S. I am sorry if this is unpalatable for some. Europe has been a bit better because of the Freezone.
It took one man who stood up and now a whole lot are following.
And we are lucky enough to have Marty and Mike with us. They made a BIG difference since they decided to stand up. But we have to take into account that they need some power flown to them, too, to keep their power. Even I need some power flown to me to keep my power. And so do you. Just alone here I got 3 people back on the bridge and a 4th interested again. I need some back up, too, though. And definitely no defeatism or figure-figure stuff will help.
A Tone 45 attitude applies, now.
Let DM take me to court for practising Scientology the way I think it should be. I sue him for fraud over thousands of people. Then you see who comes for help.
This is the crucial point: you usually go down just by yourself. Just you, taken out of your group and shot to pieces, one at at time.
And DM knows this. He makes you a wreck and then shoots you in the head and everybody goes “oh well, he deserved it, he was a pain in the ass anyway, a down stat, a back-flasher, a stat crasher, a no good” or something.
In our case it’s going to be “oh I didn’t know they sued you” or “I don’t have 20 dollars to give to do something about it” or “I am not following orders here, too bad for the guy who got sued” or there would be some actual failure in speed of communication and organization within the group so that there is some decent reaction by our group members. Someone must let you know first. And in time. Very important.
So, we have to be alert, we have to be willing to fight back. No other way.
So, if you guys think this is not a war, then what is a war?
I am asking you. What is a war, then?
I have one big hole in the middle of my forehead for 10 years now and someone put a band aid there saying “SP”. That’s a wound from war. I fought and I lost. Now I am recovering. But it’s 10 lost years guys. Do you know how many foreigners could have been trained on Class VI courses in Italian, French, Chinese, Russian, you name it? Or should just the English be privileged to fully have the Tech? I don’t think you would agree to that, because you are not really the SPs but that’s what happens. And the HCOBs on translations are right there! Un-cancelled by LRH. What the f… is this? !!! Who is telling me then I have no right to audit or I should be careful when auditing anyway? What is that except for rationalization and PTSness, one of the two or both?
No Sir, the Tech freaking belongs to everybody and Miscavige has effectively stopped the little TU DIR there in EU in the year 2000 and NOBODY, NOBODY, I repeat, NOBODY, DID ANYTHING about it. NOBODY. Nobody knew about it or could do anything about it.
“Oh, I didn’t know”. Yeah, you betcha! You didn’t WANNA know. If we cared enough we would have known. For every such instance, not just my situation.
Anyway, a lost battle. My lost battle. So, if some of us there in TU gathered up and said NO at that time, this thing wouldn’t have happened. It’s just one example of a situation, but it’s a valid one and a big issue. But it didn’t happen because NO ONE was willing to scream and shout like me.
So, we now have a team here again, a group at least. And we can discuss which is good. But discussions alone won’t do much. Yes, they raise Tone Level, but action does that much faster.
And in a somewhat organized way!
“What? Theo got sued for getting auditing in Greece? OK, what are we going to do? Who is going to Greece and which lawyers do we have and how much money is needed to pay them.” And they better be good lawyers, please guys.
You think I am crazy? This is exactly what happened to me and you, guys, years ago and nobody helped me and you. You got “sued” and judged by the “Scientology community” and fired. Or should I say burnt. And together with you Scientology got burned as well.
I admire Marty for taking responsibility for the church. And the rest of us here. But let’s not be afraid to stick our necks out and show our faces. What is going to happen to you? At least you died in the attempt. So you become a player. You follow the rules. Not in the best possible way (that would be winning)… ok… but at least you do follow the rules.
Pawns just follow orders from their seniors or from their reactive minds. They ignore the rules. And the rule now and forever has been Win or DIE IN THE ATTEMPT. Both ways apply. If you cannot win just die in the attempt then. Because over your dead body someones will wake up and continue fighting.
I am sorry if this sounds very dramatic and long drawn to some, maybe to most of you. That’s me now. Not in a bank agreement with anyone of you. The situation is more dramatic when you come to think of it in an straigthforward way.
It takes the fire of life from within to set life on fire… FRREEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOMM!!
Start putting up your names on the 500 list, or for me… better, on the… 300 list. Leonidas against the Persians didn’t have more, he didn’t need them either. He was glorified in history together with his 300. Just THE 300 will be enough for now.
Sorry Helmut’s mission was in Bombay or something, not Bogota. Completely different.
king,
I UNDERSTAND! Listen, my brother, remember underneath this false evil, this mocked up thing of evil, there is theta. That is the salvation. No need for hate, or vengeance. Fury, yes, righteous outrage at the insults to life. We, we move up a little higher don’t we.
Love,
Jim
Chad,
It ain’t near being over mate. Lots of life ahead. Learn, it’s the theta-MEST theory. You be theta.
And may I remind you guys, that this game with Miscavige is not OUR game. OUR game has been the Planet and it’s going freaking fast down… Remember that?
So the DM game is a good justification not to clear a planet, ha?
Come on! Let’s start focusing on the real target and start delivering auditing, blown out of our minds and not paying the least attention to DM.
Karma Pea,
Is that like into the wind?
Marty,
Cowboy Poet is the Bard of This Time. He’s the Highlander Philosopher/Poet. He is my voice with the Art of the Word. The Master of Language.
Someday, soon, I’ll have music to this magic. Thankyou Cowboy Poet for putting in a form that which transcends the form.
Actually that’s the way the Ol’man saw it too.
Back in the seventies I ended up working on a special C/F project that was personally directed by Ron.
He wanted all C/F files updated around the planet and covert the T&Ps into active FSMs who disseminated in that form of geometric progression.
In fact it became a Birthday game to get C/F updated and CF public active.
Unfortunately it occurred just before the FBI raids and the program got dropped.
Another good one was to have each org train 1000 auditors which was the one just before that.
Tone,
Indeed, today I was talking with the Real Estate agent that worked to get me and mine into a beautiful Western Red Cedar home, on a Loch in New Scotland. He and I talked and he wanted to know how come I was so ‘alive’. I told him I was a Scientologist. He’d only heard that John Travolta was a Scientologist and some slight bit of the negative. I clarified that the current CofS under David Miscavige is ‘dicey’ but since he knew me through our dealings, he listened and in the end, he had this suppressed question: What is Scientology?
He’ll get his answer from me.
My friends, we are on the cusp of the renaissance, the true vigor and excitement that is what we are a part of, Scientology from L. Ron Hubbard.
Suck it up, it’s totally cool!
Thanks those who commented about my “hidden standard” Got it now.
Didn’t understand it initially cos whatever hidden standards I may have, not disseminating isn’t one of them. 🙂 Been doing it and will continue, and am expanding such activity.
So I screwed up in my comments.
MARTY
“Terril, don’t despair. The day will come when the average person can distinguish between the C of S and an independent Scientologist applying the tech to help people. It will come by efforts like your own to carry on using the tech for the purposes it was developed for and for no other motives. A change gonna come.”
Thanks for the positive postulate. 🙂
But needs more, on say lower levels of an admin scale.
How will, as we have an example, will scientology be as acceptable as it once was in Davis.
I see the despair of one who wrote of what might be, had COSMOD been doing there thing
for the 38 years since dissolution.
Using a different name than Scientology? Don’t really think so. But as a suggestion:-
” Clearing Technology”
Using scn earns insults and few opportunities for actual discussion.
Here is an important question. How do we rehabilitate the idea of ” Scientology”.
With the COS / DM there doing there thing it will be difficult and maybe impossible.
What lower levels of an admin scale can handle this? Or any levels.
I’ve looked at this question for a long time.
Been disseminating for a decade. Have a CF of
maybe 2500. But its a drop in the ocean.
Anyone have any bright ideas?
Per div 6 PLs listen to any no matter how daft.
[ paraphraze]
Listening. 🙂
From Mayo’s debrief (http://www.scientologie.de/english/reports/e_mayo01.htm🙂
“In April ’82, I received the despatch from LRH asigning to me the hat of technical responsibility for the next 20-25 years and in which LRH stated that he didn’t expect to live long – he said a few month at least, a couple of years at the most. This despatch was quite long (some 20 pages typed) and included in it as one of the points that I should re-organize my unit, possibly even becoming corporately separate, so that I could fulfill the duties, functions and responsibilities regarding these technical hats.” […]
Very interesting. Anyone here have more details about it or ever read that despatch?
Jim,
I can be molified by a reasoned viewpoint. My feelings have been upgraded how one might feel toward a deadly virus let loose in a crowded nursery.
Thanks for the thought and care.
Since I have your attention, I was auditing, along with a couple of other 8s in a small but prosperous mission in the 70s. The building was clean, reasonably well furnished, and staff pay pretty consistant. No one moonlit. The Org on the other hand was junk yard scruffy – it had GOOD, smart staff. What they didn’t have was a Mission’s choice of how to spend it’s money and it’s choice to hire or not – the finance scene was totally different in missions. We really operated like entrupeniers (sp?). Orgs didn’t have that luxury of self determism.
So of course, most missions were way ahead. In all fairness to Orgs, they had the added weight of an Org’s responsiblities for a larger area.
I guess my point is. If an Org had the freedom to manage itself in the same way as missions did I feel they would have been more viable (I was an OES in 3 large orgs). To paraphrase a question from the OCA test, I really do think the unit system is doomed to failure.
But my years in Orgs were cool – no regrets – none. It was a game most everyone on this board loved and were damn good at.
I’d sure like to have some feedback.
Kingair
Look I’m not disagreeing with you guys.
However, Miscavige like our Government at times operates at a stratospheric above the law or at least think they are.
All I’m saying you can protest all you want about the sacredness of the 4th while in the midst of a warrantless search and seizure but probably the friendly agent from the DEA, FBI, DHS or whatever is not going to hear your pleas with his size 10 jack boot crushing your wind pipe while holding a Glock to your head.
Also the reason CBR got away with it. Is because he moved to Germany. A country that doesn’t consider Scientology a religion anyway.
Unfortunately, our Government here, particularly the CIA and other members of the IC know what a possible “threat” to “national (meaning really their own) security” that honest and standard application of Scientology can be which is probably why they endorse and protect Miscavige’s altered version which isn’t likely to produce any pesky OTs for them to worry about that might take a peek at what’s locked up in their SCIFs (Secured Compartmented Information Facilities) like Pat Price and Ingo Swann.
Yeah like they spent over two decades finding out that remote viewing had “no intelligence value”.
Uh huh….
Sure.
Whatever!
In my opinion not only can Miscavige claim that Government is his friend but they can make the same claim as well.
And you know how friends help each other out?
As I wrote the law may be on our side, but the law actually to an extent goes by Murphy’s “Golden Rule”.
In other words those who have the Gold rule.
Why do you think Ron had his wife who at the time was one of the best execs in Scn working on making the subject defensible against Government attacks?
I’m sure it wasn’t just to give the little lady something to do!
Whether we believe in a vast Government Conspiracy or that an ignorant high school drop out with an IQ smaller than his shoe size and his ego is doing this off his bat. The fact is that he may not be giving the public what they want as far as Scientology is concerned but he is giving them what they want. So what more could they ask for!
To “them”. Anyone who tips over the apple cart and starts to deliver actual Scientology on a broad general basis would probably figuratively be right up there with UBL on America’s 10 most wanted!
Sure at some point we’re going to win eventually. Because no one, unless they’re a masochist wants Miscavige’s version of “Scientology”.
Terril, bright idea: apply Scientology standardly.
Jim,
The house sounds beautiful — just the idea of the idea of a place on a “loch in New Scotland” sounds alluring.
And very cool about your promotion of Scn. It’s really not that hard to promote Scientology if we can separate it out from all the weird baggage. I think it’s super important to tell people that the church totally sucks, as that acknowledges all of the bad crap that people have heard about and attaches it to an entity that we can say we are totally and completely different from! And, since that’s the truth, it works.
That’s also why it would be so pro-survival if DM were to go to jail. It would make it a lot easier to say DM represents the church, the church went criminal, and we have nothing to do with that.
Agreed on the renaissance. The majority of the talent is outside the church now, away from the suppression — what an opportunity!
I’m with you Kingair!
No regrets.
I audited in the Field, in Missions, Cl IV Orgs and even SO Orgs and loved it, for the most part.
Though I’d say the koolest was auditing at AOLA when Ivan (the Terrible 😉 ) was CO.
Never a dull moment!
Yeah looking back …
It was all good 🙂
Hi Theo,
Right now I’ll admit that tone 45 is a bit of a stretch, but I’m working on it!
I’m glad you’re here too, and I have been since I read your first posts. I love your fighting spirit. But you’ve given me a lot of reading material!
I agree with most of what you said, but I think the situation is a little less dangerous than you think. It was immensely dangerous to anyone delivering Scn services in the 80’s and 90’s, and it’s still immensely dangerous to people trapped in DM’s gulags. But there are people delivering Scn in the field now, openly and without being shut down. Yes, there is still danger, but much less than there was earlier, due to the exposees, the high level SO members like Marty and Mike who have left and gone public, all of us who are contributing to the motion (and whose numbers are growing), and the spreading of truth on the internet.
Let’s keep this renaissance light and happy, because it is and should be. And because that is what works. All of us want to be out in the open with our names, but let’s have some trust that we all have good reasons for what we’re doing and how we’re doing it. Persuasion is a good thing, but force, make-wrong, and dramatization of ser facs are a bad thing (I’m not saying you’re doing any of these things, Theo, I think you’re just excited).
The requisite for theta to not cave back in is for theta to win and to keep winning. Don’t you think we’re doing that? Yes, I’d like to see us do that faster, but there’s such exciting stuff happening, with people surfacing from the old, flourishing/prospering, theta days (like the latest — a case-cracking auditor who worked under LRH on the ship). There’s more understanding all the time, there’s less PTSness, and there’s the running out of the group engram (leading to more sanity and freed theta).
Now we’ve spontaneously started talking about what kind of theta org might be possible in the Independent field (which has to be an org that is truly reformed, that allows personal freedom among staff and public . . .). My sense is that the time might be right, with the disorder in DM’s house, with the amount of truth that’s been exposed, with the exodus from the church, with these able old timers coming out of the woodwork. How cool is that?
In other words, there’s no need for seriousness. Let’s keep it insouciant, shall we?
It’s very understandable that those, like you, who worked their butts off for the cause, only to be declared “SP,” would still be affected by the injustice. I understand why the war feels more dangerous to you than it does to me.
Of course you have a right to audit anyone you want and to apply the tech any way you see fit (in my opinion). “The work was free, keep it so.” Anything that contradicts that is a lie.
Let’s play with how to move things forward, have fun with it, invent whatever structures will work best in the 21st century. We can invent anything we want, you know. What a blast!
No need to say anything for “argument’s sake.” The following data was ALL sourced from Church information over the years and then broken down into a chart and published in a post to alt.religion.scientology years ago (you’d have to poke around alt.religion.scientology for the actual source citations as this chart was updated several times as new data was made available). It really confirms Jeff Hawkins’ good work. Hopefully the formatting will hold as I post this…
[begin post]
Dianetics Sales drop to 1971 Levels
Every once in a while I stumble across a new bit of data on the sales of Dianetics. From the new site
http://www.scientology.org/en_US/news-media/stats/pg007.html it appears they’ve updated the sales figures for Dianetics through
2002 (my last chart was posted 10/02, and I arbitrarily assumed the data I had for 2002 was through 6/02). Using the new data, the chart
now look like this:
Yr Cum sales since last #yrs avg/yr
1970 1,375,000 — 20.5 67,073
1975 2,490,000 1,115,000 5 223,000
1980 4,302,500 1,812,500 5 362,500
1985 7,140,000 2,837,500 5 567,500
1990 13,578,800 6,438,800 5 1,287,760
1992 15,230,708 1,651,908 2 825,954
1997 17,760,000 2,529,292 5 505,858
2002 19,041,000 1,281,000 5 256,200
As before, annual sales of “Dianetics” appears to have fallen to approximately 1971-75 levels.
[Marty, crap, the formatting didn’t hold. So I’ll just simplify it in this post..]
No need to say anything for “argument’s sake.” The following data was ALL sourced from Church information over the years and then broken down into a chart and published in a post to alt.religion.scientology years ago (you’d have to poke around alt.religion.scientology for the full chart and actual source citations as the info was updated several times as new data was made available; the reporting dates are erratic but that’s when the Church gave out new data). It really confirms Jeff Hawkins’ good work. Here is the average annual sales of Dianetics:
1950-70: 67,073 per year
1970-75: 223,000 per year
1975-80: 362,500 per year
1980-85: 567,500 per year
1985-90: 1,287,760 per year
1990-92: 825,954 per year
1992-97: 505,858 per year
1997-02: 256,200 per year
Yes, read it many times in RTRC. It was from April 82 entitled Organization of Your Unit. He told Mayo that in a few years time he (LRH) would be off the lines for 10 or 20 years but not to faint because the work was all but wrapped up. Basically, he was telling Mayo that he had to work out how the Snr C/S Int Office was going to be organized because he was the one who was going to have to live with it. That’s where the story about LRH coming back by 2006 comes from. Wishful thinking.
Tone 41, I am answering to you here since there was no reply button next to your posting.
Thank you for your answer and for understanding that I am excited and it’s a no make wrong.
I really am. I completely agree with you, these days we will remember. It’s a Renaissance and yes it’s insouciant.
But let me tell you what’s more insouciant than to have a bullet in your head and keep going!! LOL.
I don’t think you would call that seriousness. This is what my comment is all about and yes, I agree, on the Independents Org idea. We should do Tone 41 or 45!!!
Thanks
meant to say “We should do IT (the Org thing), Tone 41 or 45!!”
King,
On Geir’s forum is a moderator, Maria, that laid out for me a comparison between the orgs and missions at the time you refer to. She had done an ‘eval’ of sorts pointing up the disparity in prosperity. It was undeniable.
Let’s imagine for a moment that Management actually managed sensibly. It appears that one of the most workable and flourishing scenes was the mission scene of the 70s. A Pluspoint Eval of that scene would isolate what was so successful and if those points were put back in and even extended to the Class V orgs you’d get a closer approach to success.
What I mean is that it only makes sense that successful programs become part and parcel of the orgs, in addition to missions. That is what an evolving group does; it evaluates success and makes it ‘policy’.
I was involved at a low level in one of a series of handlings in the late 70s to deal with ‘external influences’ in Class IV/V orgs. This particular program was directed at a scene wherein public of the orgs were hiring staff to work at their various businesses. Staff were doing it too, since food and shelter and some new shoes were pretty enticing and the org pay wasn’t so hot. The ‘external influence’ was in that the public who hired staff, now, because of their seniority on the ‘day job’ were adversely affecting staff and enticing then away from sorting out how come the org pay wasn’t up to snuff and enough to support a person.
Well, this scene was NOT occurring at the missions of that time and with 20/20 hindsight, it may very well be that what the missions were doing right (they could pay staff well and did) could deal with the issue that the program I worked on at Flag level was trying to deal with; low staff pay resulting in ‘moonlighting’ to the point where the moonlight job senior had untoward influence over org execs and drew those exec’s attention away from handling the org.
Those 70s missions were one of the most prosperous operations in the history of the field. They need to be Pluspoint Evaluated and re-instated, even taking what they did right and putting it in in the Class V org.
Terril,
When you get the truth the lie will fall away. Applying Scientology standardly is the key. The lies will fall away. Imagine a person getting Life Repair within weeks of contact with Scientology. So much for ‘negative’ PR in that guy’s universe – he’s winning.
You’ve observed it yourself, somebody repulsed by crush regging, bad tech, etc., finds he can get Scientology sans that nonsense, and he sure forgets all about it as he moves up the line.
Dare I say it, KSW works!
jackb,
Yes, plenty of details on the Tech Hat Mayo referred to starting with a fella named David Miscavige. DM wears that hat now. That’s why were here posting. He’s not so good at it, well, he’s got it on backwards and seems to resist any attempt to straighten it out. Again, that’s why were here posting.
It’s time to put the hat on heads that can wear it, with panache instead of peanuts.
Jim,
I completely agree with the pluspoint eval needing to be done.
I was mission staff in the late 70’s and early 80’s and on Org staff in the early to mid 2000’s.
I don’t think anyone was moonlighting when I was on staff at the mission.
This was no the case at the Org level. About half of the staff had day jobs and about 45-50 were full org (no foundation/day separation) staff.
In both cases, I worked about the same hours (8:30 am – 11 pm).
The huge differences were that on mission staff we all were on study daily until 12:00. That was everyone from the top of the org board down all at the same time. Great for twinning, co-audits and practicals. Study was fun and doing it all together really kept a high level of ARC within the group. All the hatting references came out in the products.
When I was on staff at the Org, it was rare to see more than one or two staff on study unless you were in the TTC. Often we had shortened lunches and dinners due to production demands. This is where the exchange really went out with the staff. Able beings who really wanted to help could not get enhancement time and it really took incredible discipline to insist on break times just to extrovert from post for a bit, apply problems of work.
Thanks Jim and Joe.
I would love it. Perhaps I would join too !
LO
Theo,
Yes, I know that with your it’s excitement and not make-wrong. Tone levels do come through!
I really wonder what would happen if we started a “Reformed Church of Scientology,” and called it that. I guess the issue is copywrites. RTC or CST or whoever it is has them. Could we win a legal case, and could we even stay in the legal game against DM’s umpteen millions?
Thanks, Jim. I’ll check out Gier’s site for that eval.
What a great thread! I just keyed in all those totally cool days – years of them. And, bloody hell, we all just thought it was just going to get better.
Bitersweet memories. But unlike those who wern’t there, we at least have them. The Golden Age of Scientology.
“Jim Logan // March 3, 2010 at 11:19 am | Reply
Terril,
When you get the truth the lie will fall away. Applying Scientology standardly is the key. The lies will fall away. Imagine a person getting Life Repair within weeks of contact with Scientology. So much for ‘negative’ PR in that guy’s universe – he’s winning. ” [snip]
Think your missing the point.
You have to get the guy there in the first place.
PR series 48 old green vols:-
” The amount of public demand for service and
your future income are both dependant upon GOODWILL.
Goodwill is the reputation an organisation has with its publics for integrity, good service, prompt bills paying, high quality delivery, friendliness etc.”
[snips]
” Word of mouth is a superior form of advertizing to newspaper, radio and TV ads. People tend to believe their friends.”
[snips]
” The “word ” whether good or bad, spreads like wildfire.”
The word has been spreading for decades and it is not good!
LRH never envisioned such a global situation.
So we have to and find a handling.
Yes doing the usual and so on is workable but
nowdays gets few results re promo and dissem.
No one else has been out there promoting FZ broadly as long as me. below is a typical,
comment I received on Myspace forums. None
in 8 months positive.
“SO RIGHT FROM THE START Hubbard was wrong. Of course the whole scientology was made up and is crappolla. Falling for this cult is pretty crazy and they have actually hurt many people, physically and financially. Audting costs thousands of dollars and the process is a joke.”
” Housten we have a problem.”
I persist and will. I’m not satisfied thats enough.
“Missions were more or less independent back when they were successful.”
The more “up-line” control SMI Int had on our GREAT mission…the worse it got. The more time our powerful, on-purpose, theta leader spent with “up-line” people like getting her OT levels (I realize being inval’ed and eval’ed the whole time) the worse things got.
Every great field auditor we got, every auditor we made or in the area…GONE! Systematically BLOWN OFF!